BS call....

[real chili 83]

.....lets Nova win.  Unbelievably bad call.

Hats off to Ed Cooley on how he handled it.

[ChicosBailBonds]

.....lets Nova win.  Unbelievably bad call.

Cudos to Ed Cooley on how he handled it.

One call, one play never decides 40 min of a game. 

[real chili 83]

Did you see the call?

[Celtic Truth]

Agreed, terrible call and it absolutely decided the game. Should have went to OT. Kris Dunn is one of the most underrated players in the country, an elite point guard. Watch out for PC in the tourney

[We R Final Four]

CBB believes a foul in the first second of a game is exactly equal and has the exact same impact as a last second foul in a one point game.  He's got a book for you to read on the topic. Just wait--you will be educated shortly.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I cry every time I think of the ESPN article where Dunn said Marquette was his dream school.  Buzz put him on the back burner, Cooley prioritized him and the rest is history.

[HutchwasClutch]

I cry every time I think of the ESPN article where Dunn said Marquette was his dream school.  Buzz put him on the back burner, Cooley prioritized him and the rest is history.

Ouch, I had never heard that one before.  It's painful enough watching all these games knowing our team is finished until next October.

[PGsHeroes32]

I cry every time I think of the ESPN article where Dunn said Marquette was his dream school.  Buzz put him on the back burner, Cooley prioritized him and the rest is history.

What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[brewcity77]

I cry every time I think of the ESPN article where Dunn said Marquette was his dream school.  Buzz put him on the back burner, Cooley prioritized him and the rest is history.

It's okay, because things worked out so well with Buzz's top target that we pursued instead of Dunn. Been so nice watching Gabe York in Blue and Gold the past few years. Right up there with not going after Jeremy Lamb.

[Class71]

One call, one play never decides 40 min of a game. 

Based on what logic? How many games are based on one last shot either a miss or a hit? How many wins are based on a home court "advantage"? How many lives are affected by a single decision by a single vote in congress, driving drunk one too many times or the decision to go to war? Right or wrong single decisions have greater impact on many people more than a just the outcome in a basketball game. So I find it odd that basketball is the exception where a single decision does not impact the outcome of an event.

[willie warrior]

I cry every time I think of the ESPN article where Dunn said Marquette was his dream school.  Buzz put him on the back burner, Cooley prioritized him and the rest is history.

Another nail in the coffin that contains the buzzard chewed carcass of the phony cowboy.

[warriorfan 14]

probably the worst call i've watched this season. just awful. have to let the players decide the game. i didn't even see any contact on that play

ed cooly's speech to his team after the game was really good

[MUCrew]

One call, one play never decides 40 min of a game. 

+1

[Richie]

Living in the Boston area and having grown up in RI a PC fan (before attending MU), I have friends on both sides who have been texting back and forth all morning. Obviously the Friar fans are ticked, but my Nova friends are saying the refs should have called a travel on Dunn on the previous play, thus that foul call was justified. My PC fans reply that Archie arm locked Carson in the lane at the 3 minute mark and that wasn't called and a change of possession resulted; you can go back and forth and cite multiple game examples and both sides will be correct.

The reality is in a tie game with 3 seconds left all of that is in the past, it is a new game. Calling contact when there was no contact helped decide it. You have to swallow your whistle, short of a Bill Laimbeer take down or a Kevin McHale clothesline of Rambis, which happens to be my favorite Celtic play of all time.

[HutchwasClutch]

I still haven't seen the play.  I go to CBS Sports, ESPN, etc, websites, and no one has highlights it seems. (yes I'm an ATT Uverse subscriber  )

My take for now is a game like this is GREAT for the newly configured Big East.  A big game ending in controversy.  It has people talking.  That's what this conference needs to start a building a new Big East tradition.  Glad it was a great game and has people debating back and forth and being passionate.  Hopefully a great title game tonight (that I can't watch).

[PGsHeroes32]

It's okay, because things worked out so well with Buzz's top target that we pursued instead of Dunn. Been so nice watching Gabe York in Blue and Gold the past few years. Right up there with not going after Jeremy Lamb.

York was never really going to turn down the WC though was he?

And Lamb at least blew up and shocked everyone.

But this Dunn stuff I'm hearing WTF!!!!! Everyone knew this guy was good for like the last 4 years!!

[brewcity77]

York was never really going to turn down the WC though was he?

And Lamb at least blew up and shocked everyone.

But this Dunn stuff I'm hearing WTF!!!!! Everyone knew this guy was good for like the last 4 years!!

The PG crop in Dunn's year was weak. He wanted to come to Marquette and said so publicly, but Buzz was focused on Gabe York, the kind of combo guard Buzz favored. Buzz kept Dunn on the back burner, recruited York hard, and during that time Dunn emerged as the best PG in the class.

By the time we lost York, it was too late to get back in on Dunn, who Jack Cooley had made his top priority. One of the biggest modes of Buzz's career and further evidence he prefers combo guards to true points.

[Markusquette]

What was the call?

[4everwarriors]

Gruber Law Offices---one call, that's all, ai na?

[PGsHeroes32]

The PG crop in Dunn's year was weak. He wanted to come to Marquette and said so publicly, but Buzz was focused on Gabe York, the kind of combo guard Buzz favored. Buzz kept Dunn on the back burner, recruited York hard, and during that time Dunn emerged as the best PG in the class.

By the time we lost York, it was too late to get back in on Dunn, who Jack Cooley had made his top priority. One of the biggest modes of Buzz's career and further evidence he prefers combo guards to true points.

O I gotcha!!! I thought you meant that Buzz missed on York as well because he didn't go after him hard. I was pretty sure it was the opposite.

Now i get what you meant and it makes me more mad!!! Dunn was always a stud and York more of a solid role guy who can shoot that was probably never gona leave the west. WOW.

[ChicosBailBonds]

CBB believes a foul in the first second of a game is exactly equal and has the exact same impact as a last second foul in a one point game.  He's got a book for you to read on the topic. Just wait--you will be educated shortly.

The only difference is the time available to react.

A free throw missed in the first half is one less point....same as a free throw missed in the second half.

A bad foul call in the first half that leads to two points is worth the same two points in the second half.

Games are made up of 40 minutes of plays, all interacting with one another.  You can just as easily say a bad call in the first half that gives a kid a 2nd foul and the coach is forced to remove him for the last 5 minutes of the half has as major an impact as anything else.  Focusing on one play is never the answer.  It's the easy way out.

[ChicosBailBonds]

What was the call?

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2015/3/13/8212921/vine-heres-the-foul-that-gave-villanova-the-win-over-providence-in

Some will call it, some won't.  Would it be called in the first half?  Likely.  That's part of the problem, this mythological idea that you "swallow the whistle" and "let the players play" in the last minute, but for the other 39 minutes things are called differently.  I agree it happens, but it shouldn't.

Did he get hit with the body and a hand check...yes.  Was it stuff that is allowed typically at end of games...yes.  Is it also a call that is made other parts of the game?  Yes.   

Plenty of bad calls throughout.  One call never decides a game, though I did love the headline of Vine I posted....probably a 22 year old that is still wet behind the ears.

[Gato78]

Baloney. The game is played to get to the finish line. Teams push things if they are down to catch up and coast when they have a lead. Any true competitor will do everything he or she can to get to that finish line and be ahead at the end. The call in the middle of the game that costs two points can be overcome with better energy and focus and adreniline as the game goes on to be in that place--the end of the game with a chance to win. Two free throws just before the under 12 time out are nowhere near as important as at the end of the game. This isn't an office job, it is athletic competition. Think of a cross country runner sprinting to the end or the boxer reaching down for that one punch. It is the end where the champions are made, the middle only gets you to that possiblity. That is why end of game calls mean so much. As a result, the two points after the tip mean very little compared to the two with 3.1 seconds left.

The only difference is the time available to react.

A free throw missed in the first half is one less point....same as a free throw missed in the second half.

A bad foul call in the first half that leads to two points is worth the same two points in the second half.

Games are made up of 40 minutes of plays, all interacting with one another.  You can just as easily say a bad call in the first half that gives a kid a 2nd foul and the coach is forced to remove him for the last 5 minutes of the half has as major an impact as anything else.  Focusing on one play is never the answer.  It's the easy way out.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Baloney. The game is played to get to the finish line. Teams push things if they are down to catch up and coast when they have a lead. Any true competitor will do everything he or she can to get to that finish line and be ahead at the end. The call in the middle of the game that costs two points can be overcome with better energy and focus and adreniline as the game goes on to be in that place--the end of the game with a chance to win. Two free throws just before the under 12 time out are nowhere near as important as at the end of the game. This isn't an office job, it is athletic competition. Think of a cross country runner sprinting to the end or the boxer reaching down for that one punch. It is the end where the champions are made, the middle only gets you to that possiblity. That is why end of game calls mean so much. As a result, the two points after the tip mean very little compared to the two with 3.1 seconds left.

I clearly said the only difference is the end of the game means you have no or little time to come back.  That, however, doesn't change the fact that a foul called a foul in the first half that isn't a foul on the exact same play is equally BS \ Baloney or whatever you want to call it.

A bad call in the first half can change the flow of a game just as much impact as calls at any other time of the game.  It can put key players on the bench, make them play more tentatively, etc.

Since the only thing that seems to matter to some of you guys is the plays at the end of the game and how they are called or what plays are being made, why don't we just schedule games to last 2 minutes moving forward, since that's all that seems to matter.

It's like the same rocket scientists that blame the Packers loss on the onside kick.  Guess what, when you are inside the one yard line twice, come away with more than 2 FGs.  Knock down a 2 point conversion pass that was in the air for 5 seconds, don't take a knee on an interception when you have 50 yards of daylight in front of you.  Don't let a team that sucked all day on offense carve you up like you aren't there twice in the last 5 minutes, etc, etc.

Games are series of plays, and yes end of the game plays or calls means you don't have time to recover, no one is disputing that.  What I am disputing is that IT COST THE GAME.  That is bullshyte.  Every play has an impact to a game in some way shape or form. EVERY PLAY.

[Gato78]

You just don't get it.

I clearly said the only difference is the end of the game means you have no or little time to come back.  That, however, doesn't change the fact that a foul called a foul in the first half that isn't a foul on the exact same play is equally BS \ Baloney or whatever you want to call it.

A bad call in the first half can change the flow of a game just as much impact as calls at any other time of the game.  It can put key players on the bench, make them play more tentatively, etc.

Since the only thing that seems to matter to some of you guys is the plays at the end of the game and how they are called or what plays are being made, why don't we just schedule games to last 2 minutes moving forward, since that's all that seems to matter.

It's like the same rocket scientists that blame the Packers loss on the onside kick.  Guess what, when you are inside the one yard line twice, come away with more than 2 FGs.  Knock down a 2 point conversion pass that was in the air for 5 seconds, don't take a knee on an interception when you have 50 yards of daylight in front of you.  Don't let a team that sucked all day on offense carve you up like you aren't there twice in the last 5 minutes, etc, etc.

Games are series of plays, and yes end of the game plays or calls means you don't have time to recover, no one is disputing that.  What I am disputing is that IT COST THE GAME.  That is bullshyte.  Every play has an impact to a game in some way shape or form. EVERY PLAY.