Guards

[BCHoopster]

If you are thinking guards just look how tough Barlow and Dunhim are for Butler, if you start Carter and Wilson next year you think they have the toughness of those kids?

[bilsu]

Carter weighs 165 lbs.

[Nukem2]

Next season is year 2 of the rebuilding process. 

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Define toughness

[Nukem2]

Define toughness

What you see is what you get........

[OrangeGreenGolden]

Toughness very often is an attribute for players without high level skill. Ill take the skill to start with personally. Toughness/confidence grows with age and experience

[BCHoopster]

Toughness very often is an attribute for players without high level skill. Ill take the skill to start with personally. Toughness/confidence grows with age and experience
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You can be tough and skilled, I think a guy named Jordan had that.

[Pakuni]

Carter weighs 165 lbs.

So did Allen Iverson.
May have been the toughest player, pound for pound, in the NBA ever.

(No, I'm not comparing Carter to Iverson. Just pointing out that weight and toughness don't have to go hand-in-hand)

[tower912]

Wojo and crew know what good guard play is.   Hopefully, the ones they have recruited for next season can become great ones.   But please, for the love of all that is holy, do not expect them to be instant superstars.   If they are, gravy.    But give them time to be freshmen and only burden them with freshmen expectations.

[Knight Commission]

So did Allen Iverson.
May have been the toughest player, pound for pound, in the NBA ever.

(No, I'm not comparing Carter to Iverson. Just pointing out that weight and toughness don't have to go hand-in-hand)

Russ Smith is 165# and did well in the Big East

[brewcity77]

Wojo and crew know what good guard play is.   Hopefully, the ones they have recruited for next season can become great ones.   But please, for the love of all that is holy, do not expect them to be instant superstars.   If they are, gravy.    But give them time to be freshmen and only burden them with freshmen expectations.

Oh tower...you know better than to hope fans have realistic expectations

[tower912]

Just because I know message board denizens expectations doesn't mean I can't appeal to their better nature.

[NavinRJohnson]

Interesting you bring his up, as that is what struck me about Carter in the little bit I saw of him. Appeared to have very good strength and ability to take contact for a smaller guy (height and weight). Both will need to continue to get stronger of course, but that's something that is not really a concern for me.

[romey]

One of our current coaches was a pretty damn tough point guard for a little guy at our alma mater

[GooooMarquette]

One of our current coaches was a pretty damn tough point guard for a little guy at our alma mater

Beat me to it.  Travis looked 13 by the time he graduated from MU, but I'd go to battle with him any day.  Had a bit of talent too.

Chatted with him again at the picnic last summer.  He looks about 18 now....

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

The Cory's from Villanova were tough little guys | Boatwright tough little guy.  Duane flies all over the floor and will take on big guys after the whistle.  i am not worried about toughness.

[JakeBarnes]

So did Allen Iverson.
May have been the toughest player, pound for pound, in the NBA ever.

(No, I'm not comparing Carter to Iverson. Just pointing out that weight and toughness don't have to go hand-in-hand)

I heard on an internet scouting report that Carter is the next Iverson. 

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No definition of toughness yet?

[Dr. Blackheart]

No definition of toughness yet?

Eats nails and spits rust.

[GooooMarquette]

No definition of toughness yet?

Ability and willingness to take contact and play through it...again and again.

You see it in guys who are the first to dive on the floor to get a loose ball, the first to step in and take a charge.  Guys like Travis Diener, Derrick Wilson, Duane Wilson.  Some have huge talent, some don't, but they all display this willingness to take punishment for the sake of the team.

[hdog1017]

They need to be more grindy

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Ability and willingness to take contact and play through it...again and again.

You see it in guys who are the first to dive on the floor to get a loose ball, the first to step in and take a charge.  Guys like Travis Diener, Derrick Wilson, Duane Wilson.  Some have huge talent, some don't, but they all display this willingness to take punishment for the sake of the team.

Yeah, but the original poster said Duane Wilson isn't tough like Butler's guards....

[jsglow]

Beat me to it.  Travis looked 13 by the time he graduated from MU, but I'd go to battle with him any day.  Had a bit of talent too.

Chatted with him again at the picnic last summer.  He looks about 18 now....

I'll give you 17. He's still the teenage assassin.

[naginiF]

We should probably ask the scorers table at MSG if it thinks Duane is 'tough'

[Henry Sugar]

No definition of toughness yet?

Toughness is 15% grit, 25% clutch, 30% scrappy, and 40% leadership.