So what do you all think Wojo has learned from his first season as Coach?

[GGGG]

C'mon Sultan. If the kid's dad wants to speak his piece here, let him. Others think he should not even post here, "because no good can come of it"--says somebody with several thousand posts. Opinions here are all over the map, some good, some not so good, but when the thought police try to control a kid's Dad who may have some "legitimate grievances" (to quote our illustrious emperor), that really is not a good look either!!!

He can post here all he wants.  I'm not calling for him to be banned or his posts deleted.  I don't think he understands that he comes off as an over-protective parent who is upset at how Wojo handled his son.  And that doesn't make John into a sympathetic figure, but like someone who needs his dad to carry his water for him.

BTW, your 20 points above were very good.

[willie warrior]

He can post here all he wants.  I'm not calling for him to be banned or his posts deleted.  I don't think he understands that he comes off as an over-protective parent who is upset at how Wojo handled his son.  And that doesn't make John into a sympathetic figure, but like someone who needs his dad to carry his water for him.

BTW, your 20 points above were very good.

Ok we agree to disagree. I haven't read all his posts, but I do not detect that he is carrying the kid's water or being over protective. You do not think the look is good, that's fine, I do not see that. Besides, there are very few posters on this board who have always carried a "good look", including myself. Except you, Sultan, that is!
Almost all of us are fans, probably some of us overly rabid, and this year was even more frustrating than last year--which also was a huge disappointment. So if we vent some of those frustrations out on a message /chat board, who really cares, except for the temporary relief it may give to the ventor.

I especially like the point on kielbasa--it has been a long time since I have had some good kielbasa. And I am jealous of Wojo--he probably has trucks of it backing up to his freezer. He also has access to Kewaskum Frozen Meats garlic summer sausage, so I am doubly jealous. If I want it, I have to pay shipping charges.

[GGGG]

Ok we agree to disagree. I haven't read all his posts, but I do not detect that he is carrying the kid's water or being over protective. You do not think the look is good, that's fine, I do not see that. Besides, there are very few posters on this board who have always carried a "good look", including myself. Except you, Sultan, that is!
Almost all of us are fans, probably some of us overly rabid, and this year was even more frustrating than last year--which also was a huge disappointment. So if we vent some of those frustrations out on a message /chat board, who really cares, except for the temporary relief it may give to the ventor.

I especially like the point on kielbasa--it has been a long time since I have had some good kielbasa. And I am jealous of Wojo--he probably has trucks of it backing up to his freezer. He also has access to Kewaskum Frozen Meats garlic summer sausage, so I am doubly jealous. If I want it, I have to pay shipping charges.

Stop making my mouth water so close to lunch!  I'm gonna be eating a frickin' salad.  <sob>

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Welcome back, Mr Dawson. From everything you've posted here I conclude that you are a good and reasonable man who loves his son. Sorry things didn't work out - hope for nothing but the best for John and your entire family.

+1

[keefe]

You are not speaking from a coach's point of view. You are a player's father. As the dad of two former high school players

Ners is your son?

[slingkong]

Maybe so, but that's not how it comes across. This is why I advised against posting on this board years ago and continue to do so now. Your viewpoint will never be viewed as objective, and you and nevada233 continuing to post here about Wojo makes it look like sour grapes and that you can't let go.

Whatever the case may be, it's not good form. It never was. Fan sites just aren't a good place for family and friends of players to visit, and even worse places for them to post. I have no idea what Liberty is like, but I would again implore you to not post on their sites either. At best, it will come across as being an overly controlling relative, at worst it will come across as a malcontent, but no matter what, it will reflect more on your son than it does on you.

Bottom line, you posting on message boards makes John look bad. No matter your intent, no matter how objective you may think you are, it reflects poorly on your son. If you continue to do it, here or otherwise, it WILL make John look bad. If that is your intent, I guess you can feel free to continue.

You already ran away crying to create your own board once . . . and it was a circle jerk. Your advice re. who should and should not post is worth little.

[GGGG]

You already ran away crying to create your own board once . . . and it was a circle jerk. Your advice re. who should and should not post is worth little.

WTF are you talking about?

[brewcity77]

You already ran away crying to create your own board once . . . and it was a circle jerk. Your advice re. who should and should not post is worth little.

I did? 

[tower912]

Sultan, I believe he is referring to last lent when you gave up posting on scoop.   Some less informed people thought that you had quit scoop forever, taking your insights exclusively to the brewcityball forum. 

[GGGG]

Sultan, I believe he is referring to last lent when you gave up posting on scoop.   Some less informed people thought that you had quit scoop forever, taking your insights exclusively to the brewcityball forum. 

He was quoting brewcity though.  (He's mixing up brewcity with IWB's Brew City Ball.  Which is actually going along just fine.)

[brewcity77]

He was quoting brewcity though.  (He's mixing up brewcity with IWB's Brew City Ball.  Which is actually going along just fine.)

I suppose that would make sense. Absolutely zero accuracy from the fact perspective, but I can understand the confusion.

[MUCam]

13. Jay Wright sure as hell knows what he is doing.

Completely agree. Interestingly, Jay Wright went 13-19 just two years ago at Villanova, with an opening day win in the Big East Tournament.

The following year he was 20-14 and, obviously, this year, they are pretty decent.

Follow the path, Wojo. Follow the path. (NOTE: There are important distinctions between the two teams, but it makes for a nice parallel nonetheless).

[JakeBarnes]

Completely agree. Interestingly, Jay Wright went 13-19 just two years ago at Villanova, with an opening day win in the Big East Tournament.

The following year he was 20-14 and, obviously, this year, they are pretty decent.

Follow the path, Wojo. Follow the path. (NOTE: There are important distinctions between the two teams, but it makes for a nice parallel nonetheless).

The key distinction is "recruit your type of players." Remember reading about Wright and how those years after a Final Four were lean because he got out of doing his thing.

[terrykelly]

Need to make the front end of the bonus free throws
Need to make the easy chip shots

[SWARM!]

Need to make the front end of the bonus free throws
Need to make the easy chip shots

I'll go out on a limb here and say that Steve probably learned this prior to his first season as MU head coach.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

1. Don't play zone very much.
2. It sucks when a mess was left to you--leave it better than you found it.
3. We are not the Duke of the Midwest, yet. (Hopefully he believes we can be)
4. The jury is still out on three guard offense (unless you are Villanova)
5. PG's must be able to shoot and make FT's--find one that does.
6. Milwaukee/Wisconsin does have basketball talent and talented kielbasa.
7. Need a stud PF and PG.
8. Some players need to hit the weight room.
9. Al McGuire's shadow still looms large, even almost 40 years removed.
10. A power point presentation got me this gig, but now I need to show my stuff.
11. Being the Head Guy is real tough.
12. The BEast is pretty damn good, a lot better than was realized on Tobacco Road. But DePaul still sucks.
13. Jay Wright sure as hell knows what he is doing.
14. The Bradley Center is sure different than the Cameron Crazies.
15. Who the hell was the phony cowboy?
16. Recruiting a world class high jumper to the team, who just happens to have a Burger Guy younger brother, can pay big dividends.
17. Matching Coach K's first 3 years at Duke may be tougher than I thought. (38-47)
18. I sure want to kick Bo Ryan's ass on the BB floor before he retires.
19. I damn sure will make this work--sooner rather than later.
20. Most importantly---this is not a stepping stone job, but a destination.

+1

Agree with everything stated here

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Need to make the front end of the bonus free throws
Need to make the easy chip shots

I honestly think this is huge.

If MU makes 50% of the the point blank bunnies they miss this season, it would have been a very different season. 

[MU82]

He can post here all he wants.  I'm not calling for him to be banned or his posts deleted.  I don't think he understands that he comes off as an over-protective parent who is upset at how Wojo handled his son.  And that doesn't make John into a sympathetic figure, but like someone who needs his dad to carry his water for him.

I am as big a free-speech advocate as there is on the planet and I have absolutely no problem with Dawson's dad or anybody else posting here or on any other fan site.

My recommendation that family members and close friends avoid these sites has less to do the poster coming off as over-protective than it does with protecting the sanity of the posters!

I am not a super-controversial poster who spews venom here on Scoop, but I also am never going to filter one of my opinions because I think a kid's family might be reading. This is the Marquette fan's site, not mommy and daddy's site.

[NotAnAlum]

Interestingly, Jay Wright went 13-19 just two years ago at Villanova, with an opening day win in the Big East Tournament.

The following year he was 20-14 and, obviously, this year, they are pretty decent.

You're off by a year Cam.  Nova had a losing record 3 years ago, not 2.  They followed it up with 20-14 2 years ago and were 29-5 last year.  But you point is well taken.  It takes a while to "grow" a team that good.

[MU82]

Did anybody see that Bo benched Kaminsky after the big guy missed two bunnies and committed two sloppy turnovers in a four-possession span? When Kaminsky got back in, he was much more focused.

Bo and his head games.

[brandx]

I honestly think this is huge.

If MU makes 50% of the the point blank bunnies they miss this season, it would have been a very different season. 

Has nothing to do with Wojo though.

[brandx]

Did anybody see that Bo benched Kaminsky after the big guy missed two bunnies and committed two sloppy turnovers in a four-possession span? When Kaminsky got back in, he was much more focused.

Bo and his head games.

I did. And he has done that many times with Dekker before. There is a reason they only commit 5 fouls in a game - it's Bo's way or the highway.

It's taken several very good players a couple years to learn that.

[HutchwasClutch]

I honestly think this is huge.

If MU makes 50% of the the point blank bunnies they miss this season, it would have been a very different season. 

They did miss an astounding number of them throughout the season.  I bet if stats were kept, STJ would have led that category.  

[MU82]

I did. And he has done that many times with Dekker before. There is a reason they only commit 5 fouls in a game - it's Bo's way or the highway.

It's taken several very good players a couple years to learn that.

Yes, he does it with Dekker all the time. And Dekker didn't pout publicly or transfer.

A coach has to hold his players accountable. It is THEIR team and they should show pride of ownership. I was happy Buzz benched Junior when he deserved it, and happy Wojo benched JJJ. Both were beneficial long-term. If the benching ultimately makes JJJ transfer, then he wasn't strong enough mentally to be a Warrior.

[dddawson]

Hmmmmmm.....stay tuned!