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GooooMarquette

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
What is the point in making a post about what your Dad thinks on a message board?

My dad isn't going to like that comment.

brandx


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: warriorchick on February 25, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
Derrick Rose is the Bill Walton of the new millenium.

I would have gone with "the next Penny Hardaway."


jsglow

It was a rough evening for Chicago sports.  And seeing that these are the only two Chicago sports teams that I actively cheer for.......

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
What is the point in making a post about what your Dad thinks on a message board?

Cause its a message board...He's still mostly just mad about taking a year and a half after the ACL tear. Mostly because one of his players came back in 6 months.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 25, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
Cause its a message board...He's still mostly just mad about taking a year and a half after the ACL tear. Mostly because one of his players came back in 6 months.

That's pretty ridiculous. Not all ACL tears are created equal. Not everyone heels at the same rate. Rose may have been ready to play 1-2 HS games a week after 6 months, but that's vastly different than being ready to play 82 NBA games over 180 days.

The Bulls botched his recovery time table from the beginning and, intentionally or not, made him out to be the bad guy because they were upset that Derrick was heeding the advice of his brother and BJ Armstrong, both of whom were upset with the Bulls' front office.

JuniorCardigan

#31
Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 24, 2015, 10:45:02 PM
He can't stand him. Thinks he's extremely selfish.

Your father sounds like a reasonable sports fan....

Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 25, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
Cause its a message board...He's still mostly just mad about taking a year and a half after the ACL tear. Mostly because one of his players came back in 6 months.

also, is your father coaching Adrian Peterson?

GGGG

Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 25, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
Cause its a message board...He's still mostly just mad about taking a year and a half after the ACL tear. Mostly because one of his players came back in 6 months.


If your dad is that dense, he shouldn't be coaching.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 25, 2015, 04:05:59 PM

If your dad is that dense, he shouldn't be coaching.

4 regionals in 5 years, 3 straight sectional championships and a final 8 appearance begs to differ but you know youre right. Also, my freshman year in high school, one of the seniors tore his ACL in an open gym for volleyball but came back to play by the end of the season. ACL recovery is not a year and a half process. He was absolutely selfish, between him and BJ Armstrong, sitting out that entire season was absolutely ridiculous. Nobody blames him for the injury, but Im going to school for PT and there is nothing that shows an ACL injury should take that long.

GGGG

Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 25, 2015, 04:32:51 PM
4 regionals in 5 years, 3 straight sectional championships and a final 8 appearance begs to differ but you know youre right. Also, my freshman year in high school, one of the seniors tore his ACL in an open gym for volleyball but came back to play by the end of the season. ACL recovery is not a year and a half process. He was absolutely selfish, between him and BJ Armstrong, sitting out that entire season was absolutely ridiculous. Nobody blames him for the injury, but Im going to school for PT and there is nothing that shows an ACL injury should take that long.


If he doesn't understand that different people heal at different rates, he shouldn't be coaching.  Dangerous.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 25, 2015, 04:33:37 PM

If he doesn't understand that different people heal at different rates, he shouldn't be coaching.  Dangerous.

Yes but not a year and a half. Waiting that long actually hurts your rehab because your muscles atrophy. 6-12 months for ACL. Not 18.

brandx

Quote from: ChitownJuan on February 25, 2015, 04:35:17 PM
Yes but not a year and a half. Waiting that long actually hurts your rehab because your muscles atrophy. 6-12 months for ACL. Not 18.

You might be in over your head on this one.

He waited that long to play again. But, he was rehabbing shortly after the surgery. It's not like he was laying around doing nothing for 17 months and then decided he better get his butt in gear.

Blackhat


4th and State

Rose was cleared by doctors in Feb/March for his ACL, but chose to sit out the rest of that season and playoffs....not trying to hate on him, but that's not exactly coming off as a team player in that situation.

Curious how the decision to opt for the "repair" as opposed to the "shave" came about.  Have to assume that's what the doctors recommended, but if it comes out that it was Rose's decision, as well, would not be a good look.

RushmoreAcademy

Just sent my dad a copy of this entire thread.   I don't want to alarm you guys, but, he's pissed, so probably best if we just end it.

jsglow

Quote from: 4th and State on February 25, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
Rose was cleared by doctors in Feb/March for his ACL, but chose to sit out the rest of that season and playoffs....not trying to hate on him, but that's not exactly coming off as a team player in that situation.

This was the key.  Some of you might recall that a flu bug hit the Bulls during the playoffs.  There were guys literally blowing chunks into a bucket on the bench, getting some water, and going back in.  Jimmy was playing 48 minutes EVERY night.  Rose publicly said he wasn't playing because his 'muscle memory hadn't returned'.  That forever colored my opinion.

That's one of the things I love about this year's Marquette team.  Do you think for a moment Juan was even 50% last night?  And don't you think he knows his entire game is based on out hustling the other guy because from a basketball skills perspective he's just not that good?  But his lil' bro Sandy needs a rest so goddamn it he's going to gut it out for a few minutes a half even though we suck and aren't going anywhere or have much of a chance to win.  I cheer for kids like that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 26, 2015, 07:28:02 AM
Just sent my dad a copy of this entire thread.   I don't want to alarm you guys, but, he's pissed, so probably best if we just end it.

Post of the week!

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 26, 2015, 07:28:02 AM
Just sent my dad a copy of this entire thread.   I don't want to alarm you guys, but, he's pissed, so probably best if we just end it.

Go f**k yourself, I brought in an opinion from an outside person like so many of you do yet I get criticized? Ridiculous.

🏀

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 26, 2015, 07:28:02 AM
Just sent my dad a copy of this entire thread.   I don't want to alarm you guys, but, he's pissed, so probably best if we just end it.

Nice.

CTWarrior

Quote from: jsglow on February 26, 2015, 08:45:15 AM
That's one of the things I love about this year's Marquette team.  Do you think for a moment Juan was even 50% last night?  And don't you think he knows his entire game is based on out hustling the other guy because from a basketball skills perspective he's just not that good?  But his lil' bro Sandy needs a rest so goddamn it he's going to gut it out for a few minutes a half even though we suck and aren't going anywhere or have much of a chance to win.  I cheer for kids like that.

I like this and agree 100% about Juan.  I root for that kid always because you just know he is giving it his all, regardless of his talent level.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Vander Blue Man Group

Surgery complete and Rose expected back in 4 to 6 weeks (although you never know with his past history - and I don't mean that in a critical manner).  Probably the best case scenario he and the team could have hoped for. 

wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 27, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
Surgery complete and Rose expected back in 4 to 6 weeks (although you never know with his past history - and I don't mean that in a critical manner).  Probably the best case scenario he and the team could have hoped for. 

See ya in 10 months, Derrick.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2015, 12:00:21 PM
See ya in 10 months, Derrick.

You seem like a pretty level-headed poster most of the time yet you seem to have an intense dislike of Rose for some reason.  Seems strange. 

wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 27, 2015, 12:44:01 PM
You seem like a pretty level-headed poster most of the time yet you seem to have an intense dislike of Rose for some reason.  Seems strange. 

It's just a joke. I like to mess around with Chicago sports fans. 80% of the time I'm messing around (at least partially) when it comes to commenting on Chicago sports. Rose is somewhat soft for my liking but part of it is that he's a Chicago athlete who has a lot of talent.

Off topic slightly but I was just thinking about how in the recent past (say 5-7 years) Milwaukee's baseball team has been the better organization and had some exciting years while Chicago's (NL) baseball team HS been in the basement, and Chicago's basketball team has been a consistently top 5 organization in the East while the Bucks have been mostly, in my mind, in the worst place possible for an NBA team (stuck consistently fighting for a spot to be swept out of the first round of the Playoffs. Now Milwaukee's baseball team is heading downhill fast and Chicago's is full of young, exciting talent and could take over as the better team as early as this season, while the opposite is true of the basketball teams (although MKE may still be a year and a half away from passing Chicago up).

At any rate, the Bears still suck.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2015, 01:19:25 PM
It's just a joke. I like to mess around with Chicago sports fans. 80% of the time I'm messing around (at least partially) when it comes to commenting on Chicago sports. Rose is somewhat soft for my liking but part of it is that he's a Chicago athlete who has a lot of talent.

Off topic slightly but I was just thinking about how in the recent past (say 5-7 years) Milwaukee's baseball team has been the better organization and had some exciting years while Chicago's (NL) baseball team HS been in the basement, and Chicago's basketball team has been a consistently top 5 organization in the East while the Bucks have been mostly, in my mind, in the worst place possible for an NBA team (stuck consistently fighting for a spot to be swept out of the first round of the Playoffs. Now Milwaukee's baseball team is heading downhill fast and Chicago's is full of young, exciting talent and could take over as the better team as early as this season, while the opposite is true of the basketball teams (although MKE may still be a year and a half away from passing Chicago up).

At any rate, the Bears still suck.

Got it, and as you probably figured out, I'm a Chicago sports fan (aside from the White Sox).

The Bears sure do still suck but I do like the staff they've built and I'm curious to see how the new GM (Pace) attacks the rebuild.  As a Bears fan that has had to live through both Favre and Rodgers for the last 20+ years it is a bit frustrating, to say the least.

As for the Bulls, it has been a frustrating 3+ years.  I really do believe if Rose had remained healthy we would have beaten the Heat one of those years.  That's neither here nor there now.  I would just like to feel like we have a fighting chance in the playoffs this year and unfortunately we need Rose for that to be a reality, even if he'll never be the player he was.  The Bucks have some intriguing talent in Parker and the Greek.  We'll see how it all plays out and if guys are willing to stay. 

I'm an absolute die hard Cubs fan so to say I am excited for what's coming is a massive understatement.  The Brewers gave it their best shot for a while but the window may have passed for now. 

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