Hiroshima

[dgies9156]

Someone brought up the question we faced a couple of years ago -- Hiroshima!

Hiroshima at the time was defined as a complete nuclear explosion of our program. It was believed that the moment the bomb dropped was the day the Hillbilly would leave. Keep in mind that at the time we had Hiroshima discussions, Oklahoma reportedly was interested in the Hillbilly.

Well, the Hillbilly left and now we're in a new world. I'm curious how many posters and legacy Scoopers believe we have faced a Hiroshima, are enthused about the future or... well.. whatever.

Rising up, by the way, is defined as the program being on the rise and that Wojo has things in hand. The rest should be fairly obvious. Nuclear winter, for you newbies, is a repeat of the Dukiet era.

[JakeBarnes]

[ChicosBailBonds]

Someone brought up the question we faced a couple of years ago -- Hiroshima!

Hiroshima at the time was defined as a complete nuclear explosion of our program. It was believed that the moment the bomb dropped was the day the Hillbilly would leave. Keep in mind that at the time we had Hiroshima discussions, Oklahoma reportedly was interested in the Hillbilly.

Well, the Hillbilly left and now we're in a new world. I'm curious how many posters and legacy Scoopers believe we have faced a Hiroshima, are enthused about the future or... well.. whatever.

Rising up, by the way, is defined as the program being on the rise and that Wojo has things in hand. The rest should be fairly obvious. Nuclear winter, for you newbies, is a repeat of the Dukiet era.

Not even close IMO.

Hiroshima was defined as silly contrived nonsense about not making Buzz king of Neptune.  That God forbid student athletes would have to live...gasp...with other students.....like what is happening at IU this year (killing their program), or Duke, or Stanford, or Notre Dame....killing those programs.  That was just one of a number of examples...how recruiting was going to fall off the face of the cliff, which of course didn't happen.

There was so much silliness in that thread and the ones that followed it.

We are where we are right now because the previous GM did not do a good job of evaluating talent at the most important spots, one primma donna left early and would be in the NBA now if he hadn't, and even the talent that is solid is playing out of position or without depth....again...GM.   

[GGGG]

Not even close IMO.

Hiroshima was defined as silly contrived nonsense about not making Buzz king of Neptune.  That God forbid student athletes would have to live...gasp...with other students.....like what is happening at IU this year (killing their program), or Duke, or Stanford, or Notre Dame....killing those programs.  That was just one of a number of examples...how recruiting was going to fall off the face of the cliff, which of course didn't happen.

That's not was Hiroshima was about. 

It was about what would happen on this board when we would find out that academic standards were being changed on the student-athletes part way through their tenure at MU.

[JTBMU7]

That's not was Hiroshima was about. 

It was about what would happen on this board when we would find out that academic standards were being changed on the student-athletes part way through their tenure at MU.

yes, that is where it started. but it has taken on many alternate forms since then...

[Galway Eagle]

Not even close IMO.

Hiroshima was defined as silly contrived nonsense about not making Buzz king of Neptune.  That God forbid student athletes would have to live...gasp...with other students.....like what is happening at IU this year (killing their program), or Duke, or Stanford, or Notre Dame....killing those programs.  That was just one of a number of examples...how recruiting was going to fall off the face of the cliff, which of course didn't happen.

There was so much silliness in that thread and the ones that followed it.

We are where we are right now because the previous GM did not do a good job of evaluating talent at the most important spots, one primma donna left early and would be in the NBA now if he hadn't, and even the talent that is solid is playing out of position or without depth....again...GM.   

In all fairness I'm sure that the athletes at those schools are living in better than Carpenter not saying they should go back to apartments but carpenter? yeesh

[Hubert Davis]

We are most definitely currently facing/experiencing "Hiroshima".

[mreezybreezy]

Anytime I see "Hiroshima" on this board I know that there is an absolute trainwreck of a thread that will follow. I assume this particular instance will not disappoint our historic trend of trainwreckery.

[ChicosBailBonds]

In all fairness I'm sure that the athletes at those schools are living in better than Carpenter not saying they should go back to apartments but carpenter? yeesh

Has it prevented us from landing two highly regarded recruiting classes (at least on paper)?  Perhaps stud PGs need cushier quarters, but the point is it hasn't impacted recruiting at all.

What I never understood about Buzz was his comments about the chip on the shoulder, the kids eating McDonald's every day, taking the bus to games, the whole Junior College thing and how this made them better players, hungrier, willing to work harder, etc....then out of the other side of his mouth he wanted the Taj Majal at MU or he couldn't recruit (or his claim).  Which is it and which one fits his supposed philosophy?

[dgies9156]

Anytime I see "Hiroshima" on this board I know that there is an absolute trainwreck of a thread that will follow. I assume this particular instance will not disappoint our historic trend of trainwreckery.

So far, not the case. Most of the early returns favor "rising up."

[hairy worthen]

Has it prevented us from landing two highly regarded recruiting classes (at least on paper)?  Perhaps stud PGs need cushier quarters, but the point is it hasn't impacted recruiting at all.

What I never understood about Buzz was his comments about the chip on the shoulder, the kids eating McDonald's every day, taking the bus to games, the whole Junior College thing and how this made them better players, hungrier, willing to work harder, etc....then out of the other side of his mouth he wanted the Taj Majal at MU or he couldn't recruit (or his claim).  Which is it and which one fits his supposed philosophy?

Well, turns out a lot of things about buzz's shtick didn't square with reality. Start with that gaudy mansion he lived in.

[Galway Eagle]

Has it prevented us from landing two highly regarded recruiting classes (at least on paper)?  Perhaps stud PGs need cushier quarters, but the point is it hasn't impacted recruiting at all.

What I never understood about Buzz was his comments about the chip on the shoulder, the kids eating McDonald's every day, taking the bus to games, the whole Junior College thing and how this made them better players, hungrier, willing to work harder, etc....then out of the other side of his mouth he wanted the Taj Majal at MU or he couldn't recruit (or his claim).  Which is it and which one fits his supposed philosophy?

Oh no it hasn't that's for sure, but I'm just saying if I was a recruit I'd be a little peeved I got stuck in Carpenter instead of McCabe, Mashuda, or Straz (nicer places). The only thing that Carpenter has going for it is the easy access to Cobeen which I'm sure they don't complain about. 

Regaurding Buzz I don't know and quite frankly don't care, he's gone. I liked the rags to the top story of a lot of our guys then and I'm sure I'll like the more typical stories we'll see of our guys now either way as long as we're winning and having no drama that is beyond typical college stuff. 

[GoldenWarrior11]

Over the past few weeks, it appears that the follow individuals have (at one point or another) been criticized for this season's struggles. Whether it's Buzz Williams, Steve Wojciechowski, Derrick Wilson, Matt Carlino, Steve Taylor, JaJuan Johnson, Duane Wilson, Luke Fischer, Sandy Cohen, Juan Anderson, Deonte Burton, Jameel McKay, Todd Mayo, John Dawson or even Nick Noskowiak, I would like to throw out a new target for all of us to vent our frustrations at:

Michael and Matthew Mache!!!  Couldn't we at least have recruited triplets as walk-ons???!!!!  Lord knows we need all the available bodies we can get!

JK, Mache brothers.  Your guys' celebrations and enthusiasm on the bench is one of the lone bright spots from this year.  Keep up the excellent cheering, fellas!

[mu03eng]

Oh no it hasn't that's for sure, but I'm just saying if I was a recruit I'd be a little peeved I got stuck in Carpenter instead of McCabe, Mashuda, or Straz (nicer places). The only thing that Carpenter has going for it is the easy access to Cobeen which I'm sure they don't complain about. 

Regaurding Buzz I don't know and quite frankly don't care, he's gone. I liked the rags to the top story of a lot of our guys then and I'm sure I'll like the more typical stories we'll see of our guys now either way as long as we're winning and having no drama that is beyond typical college stuff. 

Depends at point of the year we're talking

[Blackhat]

Hiroshima is history.

We're experiencing Nagasaki now.

Painful.

[tower912]

Oh no it hasn't that's for sure, but I'm just saying if I was a recruit I'd be a little peeved I got stuck in Carpenter instead of McCabe, Mashuda, or Straz (nicer places). The only thing that Carpenter has going for it is the easy access to Cobeen which I'm sure they don't complain about. 

Regaurding Buzz I don't know and quite frankly don't care, he's gone. I liked the rags to the top story of a lot of our guys then and I'm sure I'll like the more typical stories we'll see of our guys now either way as long as we're winning and having no drama that is beyond typical college stuff. 

Maybe Carpenter hasn't been maintained over the last 28 years, but I loved the size of the rooms, the closet space, the private bathroom, the proximity to Johnston hall.   

[Newsdreams]

Nothing happening. Nothing is official until the it's happening GIF is posted

[MU82]

Hiroshima '15 would be Henry backing out on his NLI and joining Stone at UW.

Comparatively, anything else is a fart.

[willie warrior]

Hiroshima '15 would be Henry backing out on his NLI and joining Stone at UW.

Comparatively, anything else is a fart.

Yes everything else is a fart, like this season, and....Buzz Williams.

[bilsu]

First losing record in 14/15 years and attendance is way down. The falling attendance worries me more than the losing record. I just do not see the seats getting filled again with the home games being on TV. I do not know, but I am guessing the decline in attendance is costing MU $50,000 a game. That is serious money that will eventually result in less spending.
I will be very interested to see the Ellenson effect on next year's attendance.

[4everwarriors]

Hiroshima '15 would be Henry backing out on his NLI and joining Stone at UW.

Comparatively, anything else is a fart.

Thank you Ron Wolf, hey?

[Galway Eagle]

First losing record in 14/15 years and attendance is way down. The falling attendance worries me more than the losing record. I just do not see the seats getting filled again with the home games being on TV. I do not know, but I am guessing the decline in attendance is costing MU $50,000 a game. That is serious money that will eventually result in less spending.
I will be very interested to see the Ellenson effect on next year's attendance.

It'll be a quick short term gain unless we can show we have improved tremendously

[Goose]

I am all in on Wojo, but we are at critical time in program history. Little wiggle room for additional setbacks at this point. Two painful season, each different, in a row is a reason for concern. At this point Wojo has all the tools needed to get the job done and hoping he is up to challenge.

Truthfully, until 4ever sounds the alarm I am not panicking. Next guy up is sound thought process provided there is a next guy to be up. At this moment I would not want to be Wojo. KO had luxury of coming here at the bottom and Wojo may be creating a new bottom. Have my fingers crossed and hoping for the best.

[Blackhat]

I recall people intimating that any coach can win here, Buzz is dispensable, it's the program that is top notch.    Well I hope like heck that is true now because we're going to find out.   

Buzz must have been pretty damn insufferable to cut bait

[Dr. Blackheart]

Let's see, I can quickly count about 20 dead bodies from Hiroshima and perhaps counting, either from a direct hit, fall out, or the clean up effort. I would say it was pretty real.