Don't count us out of the Diamond Stone sweepstakes

[JakeBarnes]

So what you're saying is someone might get a Diamond in the rough?

[Jay Bee]

Have long thought UCONN will eventually be the spot. Still do but confidence level is small... don't know where he winds up. Just know he's an excellent player.

[BossplayaOtto]

Don't waste broadband width on this chit, aina? Stone needs to ACT the part.

I see what you did there, and it mirrors the lowdown that I have heard. However, purely specualtion. Damn, fine player though.

[Tugg Speedman]

Serious question ....

I assume he will graduate from Dominican in good standing.  So he will be a high school graduate with the necessary GPA.  So to qualify he needs a minimum ACT (or SAT) score.  Is this correct?  What is the minimum score needed?

The ACT has these testing dates:
February 7, 2015
April 18, 2015
June 13, 2015

The SAT has these testing dates:
March 14, 2015
May 2, 2015
June 6, 2015


Could his recruitment stretch into late June as he waits for the results of his June tests?  And if he achieves the minimum score at this late date, does that set off a recruiting frenzy for Diamond around the fourth of July?
 

[Jay Bee]

Serious question ....

I assume he will graduate from Dominican in good standing.  So he will be a high school graduate with the necessary GPA.  So to qualify he needs a minimum ACT (or SAT) score.  Is this correct?  What is the minimum score needed?

The ACT has these testing dates:
February 7, 2015
April 18, 2015
June 13, 2015

The SAT has these testing dates:
March 14, 2015
May 2, 2015
June 6, 2015


Could his recruitment stretch into late June as he waits for the results of his June tests?  And if he achieves the minimum score at this late date, does that set off a recruiting frenzy for Diamond around the fourth of July?
 

It depends.

[Tugg Speedman]

It depends.

Thanks, very helpful

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Marquette!!! You may have already won the Diamond Stone Sweepstakes but first you have to enter.  Be sure to return your entry form.  YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY WON!!!

[ecompt]

If Wisconsin won't offer Diamond due to academics, my guess is that MU won't either.

UW standards go out the window for top athletes. Ron Dayne got in without being able to read.

[GGGG]

UW standards go out the window for top athletes. Ron Dayne got in without being able to read.

UW makes exceptions.  But they don't make exceptions for everyone.  FWIW, I have heard the same thing about Stone and UW from Marquette people.

[MerrittsMustache]

Serious question ....

I assume he will graduate from Dominican in good standing.  So he will be a high school graduate with the necessary GPA.  So to qualify he needs a minimum ACT (or SAT) score.  Is this correct?  What is the minimum score needed?

Minimum SAT score of 820
Minimum sum ACT score of 68

[WarriorPride68]

I highly doubt Wisconsin would still be recruiting Diamond if his academics were in shambles? Not exactly easy to sneak kids past the new Chancellor

[🏀]

I highly doubt Wisconsin would still be recruiting Diamond if his academics were in shambles? Not exactly easy to sneak kids past the new Chancellor

They are.

[WarriorPride68]

They are.

Grades suck or easy to sneak kids into UW?

[🏀]

Grades suck or easy to sneak kids into UW?

If he had the grades, he would have committed to UW months ago.

He's putting in extra work to try and make himself eligible for UW, not a knock on the guy. Good for him.

[WarriorPride68]

If he had the grades, he would have committed to UW months ago.

He's putting in extra work to try and make himself eligible for UW, not a knock on the guy. Good for him.

+1. Genuinely appreciate the clarification.

[esotericmindguy]

Grades suck or easy to sneak kids into UW?

Can't sneak in anymore. It's a sliding scale. He should have transferred to a school that gives all A's so he could get a 12 on his ACT and qualify. See Junior Coudagan.


Core GPA   SAT   ACT
3.550&above   400   37
3.525   410   38
3.500   420   39
3.475   430   40
3.450   440   41
3.425   450   41
3.400   460   42
3.375   470   42
3.350   480   43
3.325   490   44
3.300   500   44
3.275   510   45
3.250   520   46
3.225   530   46
3.200   540   47
3.175   550   47
3.150   560   48
3.125   570   49
3.100   580   49
3.075   590   50
3.050   600   50
3.025   610   51
3.000   620   52
2.975   630   52
2.950   640   53
2.925   650   53
2.900   660   54
2.875   670   55
2.850   680   56
2.825   690   56
2.800   700   57
2.775   710   58
2.750   720   59
2.725   730   59
2.700   730   60
2.675   740-750   61
2.650   760   62
2.625   770   63
2.600   780   64
2.575   790   65
2.550   800   66
2.525   810   67
2.500   820   68
2.475   830   69
2.450   840-850   70
2.425   860   70
2.400   860   71
2.375   870   72
2.350   880   73
2.325   890   74
2.300   900   75
2.275   910   76
2.250   920   77
2.225   930   78
2.200   940   79
2.175   950   80
2.150   960   80
2.125   960   81
2.100   970   82
2.075   980   83
2.050   990   84
2.025   1000   85
2.000   1010   86

[breadtree]

If Wisconsin won't offer Diamond due to academics, my guess is that MU won't either.

I understand Sandy Cohen really made the most out of a bad situation, but there were serious academic questions about him and you'll notice Wisconsin didn't offer but Marquette did.  If anyone thinks Wisconsin has even average admissions standards relative to other big time athletic programs you should probably read a couple of articles:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24982746/wisconsins-admission-standards-pushed-gary-andersen-to-oregon-state
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032


I have also heard Stone is having trouble getting to the point that he'll be accepted by UW, but to assume that that also means other schools won't take him is incorrect.  Now, perhaps someone knows his exact GPA and current ACT score, but you can't infer his overall NCAA eligibility from UW's stance.

[alexius23]

What about a year in a Prep School to pull up his grades? Oversea pro-play?

[Tugg Speedman]

What about a year in a Prep School to pull up his grades? Oversea pro-play?

Then he is a year further away from the NBA.

Remember he is projected to be a 2016 lottery pick.  So he just looking for a landing spot for next season to mark his time before he gets paid.

[🏀]

I understand Sandy Cohen really made the most out of a bad situation, but there were serious academic questions about him and you'll notice Wisconsin didn't offer but Marquette did.  If anyone thinks Wisconsin has even average admissions standards relative to other big time athletic programs you should probably read a couple of articles:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24982746/wisconsins-admission-standards-pushed-gary-andersen-to-oregon-state
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032


I have also heard Stone is having trouble getting to the point that he'll be accepted by UW, but to assume that that also means other schools won't take him is incorrect.  Now, perhaps someone knows his exact GPA and current ACT score, but you can't infer his overall NCAA eligibility from UW's stance.

Grain of salt.

Ron Dayne made it.

BJ Raji made at BC, which is known to be as 'tough as Notre Dame'.

Every school can make an exception, UW is no different. Speculation here, but I imagine Ryan doesn't want to stick his neck out for a kid that has no interest in being in any school longer than a year. I honestly don't think Bo would stick his neck out for too many kids, maybe a Henry or Butch.

Barry stuck his next out for players when necessary.

[Skitch]

Apparently the ACT has changed its scoring since I took it.  Does anyone have any idea what those numbers relate to on the old test with the high score of 36?

[WarriorPride68]

Apparently the ACT has changed its scoring since I took it.  Does anyone have any idea what those numbers relate to on the old test with the high score of 36?

I also am only familiar with the act where 36 is highest. I believe it was 18 on that scale to play D1 sports

[Jay Bee]

ACT = divide by 4 to get composite score.

What about a year in a Prep School to pull up his grades?

May not work. In 2016 the sliding scale significantly changes, as do numerous rules surrounding initial eligibility... and not in a good way for students who struggle prior to college.

[Groin_pull]

I understand Sandy Cohen really made the most out of a bad situation, but there were serious academic questions about him and you'll notice Wisconsin didn't offer but Marquette did.  If anyone thinks Wisconsin has even average admissions standards relative to other big time athletic programs you should probably read a couple of articles:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24982746/wisconsins-admission-standards-pushed-gary-andersen-to-oregon-state
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032


I have also heard Stone is having trouble getting to the point that he'll be accepted by UW, but to assume that that also means other schools won't take him is incorrect.  Now, perhaps someone knows his exact GPA and current ACT score, but you can't infer his overall NCAA eligibility from UW's stance.

Christ, I am so tired of debating UW's academic standards. Congratulations, UW is above average. Now stop pretending they're on the same level as Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, or other truly elite institutions.

[Tugg Speedman]

Christ, I am so tired of debating UW's academic standards. Congratulations, UW is above average. Now stop pretending they're on the same level as Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern, or other truly elite institutions.

+1

UW is a very good state school.  Stop there