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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 09, 2015, 11:08:18 AM
I agree. Though honestly I think we should just have a single banner showing tournament years. I have one in my room that was from the AL (goes to 2008) that shows every NCAA and NIT year. I think that'd be a nice banner to have in the Bradley

We do, or did at least.

brewcity77

Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 09, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
Based on my math.

To go 5-2 or better, there is a 2.5% chance.
To go 4-3 or better, there is a 10% chance.

The most likely scenario (52%) is that MU wins two more games, finishing at 13-17.

Obviously it's unlikely, but had we held on to sizable second half leads against DePaul, Xavier, St John's, and Butler, all the projections would be notably different. I would guess in at least a few of those games that we lost the other teams had less than a 10% chance to win.

dgies9156

Look, if they make a tournament, wonderful. I'll cheer 'em on though I cannot envision them going very far.

If we don't make the NIT, at this point, I'm not that upset. In fact, it may be a blessing. If I'm Wojo, I take my returning team members, sit them down and talk about margin for error. I talk about the fact that many have raised here -- we were able to hang on against Georgetown, Butler, DePaul et al, we'd be talking an eight or a nine seed in the NCAA. I'd be talking about free throws that clanged off a rim. Or perhaps bad decisions late in games that went against our strengths.

Or just simply not using the noggin the way we know our players can.

I'd be talking about having a chip on my shoulder. I'd talk about how each is going to get better so that when the cavalry shows up in September, we're p*ssed and we chew through next year like a chain saw through balsa wood.

I'm not Wojo, but I'll bet he'll do something close to that.

Tums Festival

Quote from: jsglow on February 09, 2015, 10:36:47 AM
I'll go check over at the Red Rock sports book and let you boys know.

Xavier is a 3 point favorite. A bit surprised there's a line with Carlino listed as questionable.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

NersEllenson

Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 09, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
Based on my math.

To go 5-2 or better, there is a 2.5% chance.
To go 4-3 or better, there is a 10% chance.

The most likely scenario (52%) is that MU wins two more games, finishing at 13-17.

Will Wojo course correct, or will he pull another Buzz from last year?  Then again if he course corrects and relegates Derrick to the bench for 30 minutes a game and we end up winning 4 or 5 of our last 7 games (which currently stand less than a 10% chance of happening), he'll have to answer for it and deal with the egg on his face.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: NersEllenson on February 10, 2015, 06:34:47 PM
Will Wojo course correct, or will he pull another Buzz from last year?  Then again if he course corrects and relegates Derrick to the bench for 30 minutes a game and we end up winning 4 or 5 of our last 7 games (which currently stand less than a 10% chance of happening), he'll have to answer for it and deal with the egg on his face.

No he won't. Other players weren't producing before. If they produce better than Derrick from here on out than Wojo will be a stud for inspiring mid season growth.

All a matter of perspective. I don't think Wojo's head is so big that he would give up wins just to prove a point.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


g0lden3agle

Quote from: NersEllenson on February 10, 2015, 06:34:47 PM
Will Wojo course correct, or will he pull another Buzz from last year?  Then again if he course corrects and relegates Derrick to the bench for 30 minutes a game and we end up winning 4 or 5 of our last 7 games (which currently stand less than a 10% chance of happening), he'll have to answer for it and deal with the egg on his face.

Go back to the JJJ thread.

Groin_pull

MU is going nowhere but home when the season ends.

brandx

The people talking about the NIT this year are the same ones that had us "on the bubble" last year.

We never were last year and we ain't goin' anywhere this year

brewcity77

Quote from: brandx on February 10, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
The people talking about the NIT this year are the same ones that had us "on the bubble" last year.

We never were last year and we ain't goin' anywhere this year

It's similar to last year. 11 total Big East wins for the NCAA, but because of the league's RPI we can probably make the NIT with 9. Neither are likely happening, but that's the path.

willie warrior

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 10, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
No he won't. Other players weren't producing before. If they produce better than Derrick from here on out than Wojo will be a stud for inspiring mid season growth.

All a matter of perspective. I don't think Wojo's head is so big that he would give up wins just to prove a point.
Hey TAMU--wake up. All of our Guards are producing more than Derrick. There is no "if" in the equation. But we all like to watch Derrick play that elite style for 40 minutes a game.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: willie warrior on February 11, 2015, 06:49:03 AM
Hey TAMU--wake up. All of our Guards are producing more than Derrick. There is no "if" in the equation. But we all like to watch Derrick play that elite style for 40 minutes a game.

I think what we're saying here is that point guard in college basketball is very important.  The previous GM didn't put much value on that area over the years, IMO.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
I think what we're saying here is that point guard in college basketball is very important.  The previous GM didn't put much value on that area over the years, IMO.

You would be correct sir
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
I think what we're saying here is that point guard in college basketball is very important.  The previous GM didn't put much value on that area over the years, IMO.


Well he did sign Junior Cadougan and Duane Wilson, who were top 100 players.

He also looked at players like Chris Jones (currently at Louisville), both immediately out of high school and as a Juco.

But the entire story of Marquette's back court the past two years were way too many recruiting mistakes.  Jamail Jones...TJ Taylor...Jamal Ferguson...Derrick Wilson...John Dawson.  A lot of wasted scholarships.

willie warrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
I think what we're saying here is that point guard in college basketball is very important.  The previous GM didn't put much value on that area over the years, IMO.
By previous GM, you must be referring to "Golly Ma'm", the Buzzster. Yes the guy that would be at MU as long as they wanted him sure left the program in good shape for his successor. Thank you, Burt, which we are all sure that Wojo seconds every day.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 11, 2015, 09:12:34 AM

Well he did sign Junior Cadougan and Duane Wilson, who were top 100 players.

He also looked at players like Chris Jones (currently at Louisville), both immediately out of high school and as a Juco.

But the entire story of Marquette's back court the past two years were way too many recruiting mistakes.  Jamail Jones...TJ Taylor...Jamal Ferguson...Derrick Wilson...John Dawson.  A lot of wasted scholarships.

And the list of players that were very interested in MU that Buzz missed on by not going after hard enough, misevaluating their talent or outright screwing over:

Jeremy Lamb
DJ Newbill
Kris Dunn
Riley LaChance

Oh, and Jabari Parker who during a Milwaukee radio interview from shortly after last years draft said he was very interested Marquette but Buzz didn't really recruit him.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: willie warrior on February 11, 2015, 09:14:50 AM
By previous GM, you must be referring to "Golly Ma'm", the Buzzster.

Correct, Willie - the "Buzzster", AKA the most successful GM at MU since the "Alster".

4everwarriors

Quote from: willie warrior on February 11, 2015, 09:14:50 AM
By previous GM, you must be referring to "Golly Ma'm", the Buzzster. Yes the guy that would be at MU as long as they wanted him sure left the program in good shape for his successor. Thank you, Burt, which we are all sure that Wojo seconds every day.


When the administration wouldn't give him his way, Bumstead interpreted that as " no longer havin' him," aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

Quote from: Lazars Headband on February 11, 2015, 09:20:54 AM
And the list of players that were very interested in MU that Buzz missed on by not going after hard enough, misevaluating their talent or outright screwing over:

Jeremy Lamb
DJ Newbill
Kris Dunn
Riley LaChance

Oh, and Jabari Parker who during a Milwaukee radio interview from shortly after last years draft said he was very interested Marquette but Buzz didn't really recruit him.


Bumstead whiffed on all them, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NersEllenson

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 10, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
No he won't. Other players weren't producing before. If they produce better than Derrick from here on out than Wojo will be a stud for inspiring mid season growth.

All a matter of perspective. I don't think Wojo's head is so big that he would give up wins just to prove a point.

This is funny. 


"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

GGGG

Quote from: Lazars Headband on February 11, 2015, 09:20:54 AM
And the list of players that were very interested in MU that Buzz missed on by not going after hard enough, misevaluating their talent or outright screwing over:

Jeremy Lamb
DJ Newbill
Kris Dunn
Riley LaChance

Oh, and Jabari Parker who during a Milwaukee radio interview from shortly after last years draft said he was very interested Marquette but Buzz didn't really recruit him.


Newbill means no Jamil (not going into the ethics debate...just the reality)
Lamb means no Davante  (I think I have that right)

77ncaachamps

Would it be considered a downer if we qualified for the NIT but MU decided to decline the invitation?
SS Marquette

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 12, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
Would it be considered a downer if we qualified for the NIT but MU decided to decline the invitation?

MU would probably need to go 5-1 for the rest of the regular season to get an NIT bid. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

BCHoopster

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 12, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
MU would probably need to go 5-1 for the rest of the regular season to get an NIT bid. 

No chance at 5-1, no chance for any tourny, for what, they are awful.  It is time for Juan and Derrick to move on.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 12, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
No chance at 5-1, no chance for any tourny, for what, they are awful.  It is time for Juan and Derrick to move on.

There is a chance. Trust me, I am well aware this team is cooked.  But if they go 5-1 and 2-1 in the BET (is never going to happen), there is a chance.  18-15 is going to be a bubble NIT team. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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