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Tugg Speedman

Everything I see from "The Chief" Sandy Cohen I like.  Dare I say I might be getting a man crush on him!

I like his attitude.  He can hit the 3-point shot.  I like his decision making (now remember he is still a freshman so adjust this statement accordingly).

After Ahmed Hill, he is looking like the second best player of the original recruiting class last year. 

And if the biggest jump a player make is between his freshman and Sophomore year, I can't wait to see what next year brings.

I'm really glad he stayed with MU

Thoughts!

HutchwasClutch

#1
Yes, I've loved his game from when I first saw him play at MU.  And with his length is going to cause a lot of problems defensively for teams the next three years.  He's a major piece to the rebuilding puzzle, and absolutely glad that he didn't get away following Buzz's departure.  A multi-talented player for sure.  Any school in America would love to have him. 

PGsHeroes32

After Hill?

Sorry but Shayok and Cohen I would both prefer to Hill.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Stretchdeltsig

Agree.  Sandy is very talented.  He plays very smooth and consistent.  His potential is off the charts. He can shoot the three.  He can drive to the basket.  He steals the ball on defense.  He can play multi positions.  Thank God he is a true Warrior.

tower912

In Hill, Shayok, and Cohen, Buzz had landed 3 talented wings.  Pierce was going to back up Luke.
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chapman

#5
If there is any place on a limited roster where we can "play for the future", it's letting Cohen roll as much as possible.


Quote from: Heisenberg on January 28, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
I like his attitude.

And if the biggest jump a player make is between his freshman and Sophomore year, I can't wait to see what next year brings.

Also impressed with his attitude and demeanor.  Has a quiet confidence that you like to see in a freshman, and will probably become more of a leader when he's the veteran and there are 4+ freshmen on the team next year.  


QuoteAfter Ahmed Hill Marial Shayok, he is looking like the second best player of the original recruiting class last year.

FIFY

brewcity77

Quote from: chapman on January 29, 2015, 07:26:34 AMIf there is any place on a limited roster where we can "play for the future", it's letting Cohen roll as much as possible.

I disagree. Not about letting Cohen roll, I agree with that, but I disagree that it is us playing for the future. He is one of the guys that makes us better NOW and playing him is playing for the present. Big East stats:

MPG: 18.4
PPG: 6.1
RPG: 1.4
APG: 1.0
FG%: 48.4
3P%: 42.1%

Those numbers are all at least on par with or an incremental increase over his season numbers with the exception of 3P%, which is still excellent. It's great to see a freshman increase his minutes and scoring as we get into the toughest part of the season, and adding the ability to drive has really improved his offensive game.

For someone with his length, I'd like to see him hit the glass harder, especially on the offensive end, but that should come as he adds strength. He seems to have a high basketball IQ and really understands the value of a possession.

He is the perfect example of how you earn minutes and trust from a coaching staff. Just doing all the right things.

jsglow

Watching Sandy grow game by game and seeing Steve get his confidence back are my two reasons for staying interested the rest of this year.

MerrittsMustache

Sandy just seems to "get it." He plays hard, he rarely tries to do too much, he's not afraid to fire from the perimeter, his minutes dipped but he kept plugging away and he's being rewarded for it. He really looks like he's going to be an excellent player for MU.

Goose

He is a nice player but my expectations are that in two years he will still be a role player. He looks good on a poor squad and not sold him being a big time player just yet.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Goose on January 29, 2015, 08:37:56 AM
He is a nice player but my expectations are that in two years he will still be a role player. He looks good on a poor squad and not sold him being a big time player just yet.

Agree Goose. He's a very good shooter but he has a low/slow release so he's only effective when wide open. And while a very good athlete he's not an explosive one. I'd project solid role player but not a star.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 29, 2015, 08:44:46 AM
Agree Goose. He's a very good shooter but he has a low/slow release so he's only effective when wide open. And while a very good athlete he's not an explosive one. I'd project solid role player but not a star.

Not sure what "star" means.

Sandy can shoot the  3(18 for 42 or 43%).  His percentage is the essentially the same as Carlino (44%).

He will be our best shooter next year.  He will start every game.  He might be a starter again before this year is out.

Not and "explosive athlete?  The state champion in the triple jump that turned down D1 scholarships in track is not "explosive"?  Maybe what you see is a Freshman not ready to play all out because he more afraid to make mistakes.  Maybe when he gains the confidence of a Sophomore or Junior this statement will look wrong.

The Lens

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 29, 2015, 09:22:06 AM

Sandy can shoot the  3(18 for 42 or 43%).  His percentage is the essentially the same as Carlino (44%).


Everyone in America knows Carlino is going to shoot it and he still connects on 44%.  Sandy often times gets to hang on the weak side and wait for the swing pass.  They get two completely different looks, for the most part.
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jsglow

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 29, 2015, 09:22:06 AM
Not sure what "star" means.

Sandy can shoot the  3(18 for 42 or 43%).  His percentage is the essentially the same as Carlino (44%).

He will be our best shooter next year.  He will start every game.  He might be a starter again before this year is out.


Are you thinking at the #3 (stretch #4) essentially replacing Juan?

GGGG

Sandy's high end:  A slightly worse Jimmy Butler
Sandy's low end:  A slightly better Joe Chapman

Skatastrophy

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 29, 2015, 09:36:52 AM
Sandy's high end:  A slightly worse Jimmy Butler
Sandy's low end:  A slightly better Joe Chapman

I was thinking Dan Fitzgerald on the lower end. I'm not sure if Sandy can get his body to the point that he can consistently maintain body control after contact like Jimmy could. That'll be interesting to see.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 29, 2015, 09:22:06 AM


Not and "explosive athlete?  The state champion in the triple jump that turned down D1 scholarships in track is not "explosive"?  Maybe what you see is a Freshman not ready to play all out because he more afraid to make mistakes.  Maybe when he gains the confidence of a Sophomore or Junior this statement will look wrong.


Maybe. Sure hope so.

mu-rara

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 29, 2015, 09:36:52 AM
Sandy's high end:  A slightly worse Jimmy Butler
Sandy's low end:  A slightly better Joe Chapman
Jimmy Butler wasn't Jimmy Butler at the same stage in his career.  

GGGG

Quote from: Ellenson for an mu-rara on January 29, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
Jimmy Butler wasn't Jimmy Butler at the same stage in his career. 


Jimmy could always defend and rebound though.

mu-rara

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 29, 2015, 09:47:23 AM

Jimmy could always defend and rebound though.
Yes, but did you see him at his JUCO year?

Not disagreeing with you, just saying give Sandy another year before comparing him to JFB.

willie warrior

All for playing sandy as much as possible. But where do the minutes come from?

Juan and Derrick? No chance, Seniors and Wojo will continue to play them.
At the 5: So what heve we gained there?No, Luke and Taylor are there.
The next logical choice would then be Duane. What are we gaining there?

I am not the coach, but the logical spot would be with Juan. Make it a 20/20 minute split
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FartyEightHours

He needs to bulk up a little.  He's a scrawny Danny Green type right now.
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GGGG

Quote from: Ellenson for an mu-rara on January 29, 2015, 09:51:16 AM
Yes, but did you see him at his JUCO year?

Not disagreeing with you, just saying give Sandy another year before comparing him to JFB.


Good lord, I wasn't really comparing them.  I was saying that his *ceiling* is a "slightly worse Jimmy Butler."

I didn't say he was going to be JFB.  I didn't even say he was going to turn out to be a "slightly worse Jimmy Butler." 

g0lden3agle

Quote from: willie warrior on January 29, 2015, 09:51:31 AM
All for playing sandy as much as possible. But where do the minutes come from?

Juan and Derrick? No chance, Seniors and Wojo will continue to play them.
At the 5: So what heve we gained there?No, Luke and Taylor are there.
The next logical choice would then be Duane. What are we gaining there?

I am not the coach, but the logical spot would be with Juan. Make it a 20/20 minute split

I agree with this.  Early on in the season I thought Sandy was going to start taking minutes away from Juan.  Then Juan went beast mode and had a solid month or so.  Now that he's crashing back to reality I truly think that becomes more of a split if Sandy continues to excel.

brewcity77

Sandy is averaging 24 mpg in the last three contests. He's getting minutes, making the most of them, why is anyone saying "where will the minutes come from?" when they are already there?  ?-(

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