Watching Jameel McKay

[GGGG]

Damn.  Buzz really effed that one up. 

[scowwarrior]

I don't post often, but was just thinking same.

[muwarrior97]

Thinking the same thing, he's got a motor Wojo would love

[Texas Western]

Damn.  Buzz really effed that one up. 

My understanding was that he chafed at Buzz's focus on being on time. I know some people said it was more position related and that may have been partially true. But I think bottom line was he not willing to sign up for Buzz style discipline.

It is too bad because he would have made a huge difference both last year and this year.

[wadesworld]

My understanding was that he chafed at Buzz's focus on being on time. I know some people said it was more position related and that may have been partially true. But I think bottom line was he not willing to sign up for Buzz style discipline.

It is too bad because he would have made a huge difference both last year and this year.

I'm fairly confident in saying your understanding is off here.

[Texas Western]

I'm fairly confident in saying your understanding is off here.

So what is your view of what happened?

[NickelDimer]

Doing it on both ends too...man can he run the floor. Painful to watch him knowing what could have been

[Johnny B]

I thought the same thing. Wow this guys got some skills

[wadesworld]

So what is your view of what happened?

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=40160.0

It's not a view.  It's what happened.

Looking at that thread is funny.  Some people in that thread ate their words really quickly, and never responded to it again.  I suggest you learn from their mistakes on this one.

[PGsHeroes32]

Would definitely help our current team with his activity and shot blocking but I feel he needs a good cast around him as well.

He gets set up a lot and we know how our guards feed Luke. He is also an absolute brick layer at the line.


Would definitely help us, but his role as a 6th man on a team like ISU is what suits him.

[willie warrior]

Another one of the phony cowboy's shining personnel moves.

[tower912]

My understanding was that Jameel thought he was going to be a starting forward.   First practice, Oxtule are set up as the starting forwards and McKay was assigned to be the back up center.    This did not sit well.  Personally, I thought starting Gardner and Otule was the worst decision Buzz made last year.   He took something that had worked magically for one half in one game and tried to build a season around it.   It screwed up the offense he had run for 5 years, sucked defensively, and basically disrupted the flow of the season.   When he gave it up, the damage had been done.    And it drove McKay away.   

[GGGG]

My understanding was that Jameel thought he was going to be a starting forward.   First practice, Oxtule are set up as the starting forwards and McKay was assigned to be the back up center.    This did not sit well.  Personally, I thought starting Gardner and Otule was the worst decision Buzz made last year.   He took something that had worked magically for one half in one game and tried to build a season around it.   It screwed up the offense he had run for 5 years, sucked defensively, and basically disrupted the flow of the season.   When he gave it up, the damage had been done.    And it drove McKay away.   

Furthermore, the opponent it worked against (Syracuse), completely adjusted to it in the E8 game.  (Not that it took John Wooden to figure out how to adjust to it.)  Really who looks at Davante's game and says "that guy is a power forward?" 

[Goose]

He was a big loss and believe his situation was mishandled by the former coach.

[real chili 83]

He was a big loss and believe his situation was mishandled by the former coach.

Goose, what drove him away?

[brewcity77]

He was a big loss and believe his situation was mishandled by the former coach.

Pretty sure there was more than one coach involved in his departure.

[The Lens]

Anyone ever hear the rumor that the admin (Fr. Wild back in charge) pushed Jameel out?  As in they had a no juco epiphany mid semester...

It's one of my favorite rumors.  And that's saying something.  

[wadesworld]

My understanding was that Jameel thought he was going to be a starting forward.   First practice, Oxtule are set up as the starting forwards and McKay was assigned to be the back up center.    This did not sit well.  Personally, I thought starting Gardner and Otule was the worst decision Buzz made last year.   He took something that had worked magically for one half in one game and tried to build a season around it.   It screwed up the offense he had run for 5 years, sucked defensively, and basically disrupted the flow of the season.   When he gave it up, the damage had been done.    And it drove McKay away.   

Pretty spot on.

[chapman]

My understanding was that Jameel thought he was going to be a starting forward. 

Changed it up a little with assigning a forward.  The one recruit of the Buzz era who didn't proclaim he was slated to be the starting shooting guard. 

[willie warrior]

Anyone ever hear the rumor that the admin (Fr. Wild back in charge) pushed Jameel out?  As in they had a no juco epiphany mid semester...

It's one of my favorite rumors.  And that's saying something.  

Yeah, that would be consistent with the nothing was Buzz's fault, he was a stud coach apologists narrative.

[tower912]

Anyone ever hear the rumor that the admin (Fr. Wild back in charge) pushed Jameel out?  As in they had a no juco epiphany mid semester...

It's one of my favorite rumors.  And that's saying something.  

I can't imagine a college president changing rules mid semester. 

[VegasWarrior77]

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  12 hours ago
Hard not to see how different Iowa State is this year with a rim protector like Jameel McKay. Was the key in Cyclones' win over Kansas.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I can't imagine a college president changing rules mid semester. 

Or on his first day back.

[brewcity77]

Anyone ever hear the rumor that the admin (Fr. Wild back in charge) pushed Jameel out?  As in they had a no juco epiphany mid semester...

It's one of my favorite rumors.  And that's saying something.  

From what I've heard, there were really two parties that led to it. Buzz's redshirt comment coupled with Jameel needing to compete for PT (but likely starting behind incumbents like Juan and Steve in the pecking order) is on the former coach. Jameel being told he had to be a star from day one is on the voices that were in his ear.

[GGGG]

From what I've heard, there were really two parties that led to it. Buzz's redshirt comment coupled with Jameel needing to compete for PT (but likely starting behind incumbents like Juan and Steve in the pecking order) is on the former coach. Jameel being told he had to be a star from day one is on the voices that were in his ear.

Those voices may have been more accurate than Buzz.