Is this year's team better than last year's team?

[Texas Western]

You do realize this years team is 10-6 with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes a game, yes?  Steve Taylor's absence from a depth perspective is far more significant to this years team.

Last year's team is a different argument, a Derrick argument makes more sense there.

I think we will be hard presses to exceed 9-9 in the Big East. Whereas last year Derrick was an anchor , this year he is a ceiling.

[Groin_pull]

The coaching is better this year considering the talent

Also feels like there's less drama.

[Milkshakes]

Last year's team underperformed my expectations. This year's team is over performing my expectations. So I like this year's team more. Not the question, I know, but I am having more fun watching this year than last year.

[brewcity77]

Any team with Derrick Wilson running the floor 30 plus minutes is going to struggle to break .500. So I would say under the least common denominator theory the teams are about the same.

Would you say the same if Junior Cadougan or Dominic James were on this team? Because Derrick this season is shooting a higher percentage on 2-point field goals, 3-point field goals, and overall field goal percentage than either of those guys ever shot in their college careers.

[BM1090]

Would you say the same if Junior Cadougan or Dominic James were on this team? Because Derrick this season is shooting a higher percentage on 2-point field goals, 3-point field goals, and overall field goal percentage than either of those guys ever shot in their college careers.

That's kind of mind boggling. In James case, the volume is also much lower (for Derrick), but still.

[buckchuckler]

We won't ses a BE record of 9-9 this year.

Well, a 9-9 team last year probably wouldn't be able to get to 9-9 in this year's Big East. 

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I think we will be hard presses to exceed 9-9 in the Big East. Whereas last year Derrick was an anchor , this year he is a ceiling.

Last year, he held them down.
This year, he'll keep them from going higher.?

This is too subtle for me. I honestly don't know the difference.

[Texas Western]

Last year, he held them down.
This year, he'll keep them from going higher.?

This is too subtle for me. I honestly don't know the difference.

It means he played very poorly last year and dragged everyone down . This year he has improved and is playing to his maximum ability which is simply not at a high enough level to take us beyond .500.

[willie warrior]

You do realize this years team is 10-6 with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes a game, yes?  Steve Taylor's absence from a depth perspective is far more significant to this years team.

Last year's team is a different argument, a Derrick argument makes more sense there.

You do realize that last years team was picked to win the BigEast and went 17-15 with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game.
You do realize that last years team did not make a post season tourney with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game.
So please don't get carried away with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game and making the team much better than last year.

[tower912]

Lots of players could have played better and taken the starting job from him.   None did.   Blame those who didn't put in the work needed to be better than Derrick.   Blame the seniors who didn't take it on themselves to lead.   Blame it on the most talented guard on the team who thought that what belonged to others was his and that showing up on time was optional.   Derrick is not a great point guard.   He is a great kid, a role model, and a leader.   Don't blame the guy who shows up every day and gets the most out of his talent.   Blame those who don't.  

[willie warrior]

It means he played very poorly last year and dragged everyone down . This year he has improved and is playing to his maximum ability which is simply not at a high enough level to take us beyond .500.

Now cmon man. Derrick is playing at a high enough level to take us beyond .500. We are at .562 with Derrick playing 31 minutes at PG last 2 years. That is at a level almost approaching prior years(two sweet 16's and an elite 8). Case closed.

[brewcity77]

That's kind of mind boggling. In James case, the volume is also much lower (for Derrick), but still.

No doubt. When he got to 7/22 last night, I was pretty sure he had a better 3P% than either James or Junior, but I was shocked to see his 2P% was also higher than either of them had ever mustered.

Derrick definitely shoots less than they did, but I have to give the kid credit, seems like all that off-season shooting might be paying off after all.

Also...he's hitting 61.9% from the line in the last 11 games. Doesn't get there a ton, but for him, that's huge.

[lohaus]

Last year's team was  so frustrating to watch.  I kept waiting for Jamil Wilson to just explode and be the man.  I thought we were in trouble this year with Juan starting.  The games I've watched I'm pleasantly surprised by Juan.

My opinion is this year's team is better and will end with a better record.

[GOO]

Well, a 9-9 team last year probably wouldn't be able to get to 9-9 in this year's Big East. 

Exactly.  A stronger conference this year.

This team is painful to watch, but not as painful as last years team.  I think this years team beats an underperforming 13-14 team.

[wadesworld]

Now cmon man. Derrick is playing at a high enough level to take us beyond .500. We are at .562 with Derrick playing 31 minutes at PG last 2 years. That is at a level almost approaching prior years(two sweet 16's and an elite 8). Case closed.

Yeah the only roster change at Marquette over the last 5 seasons is Derrick Wilson has become the point guard.

Some people are really, really dumb.

[zrjones13]

You do realize that last years team was picked to win the BigEast and went 17-15 with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game.
You do realize that last years team did not make a post season tourney with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game.
So please don't get carried away with Derrick playing 30.8 minutes per game and making the team much better than last year.

I should honestly block you, Nersellenson, and Texas Western but your extremely idiotic statements sometimes bring me to laughter, because it seems your trolling, but deep down I know your serious and am ashamed that your a fan.  Derrick works his but off and blaming last year's struggles on him makes you seem clueless.  Last year I was much more dissapointed with the lack of growth of Jamil who should have been our offensive leader but seemed to be nonexistent in many of the games.  Derrick might not have added much last year, but he didn't hurt us as much as others.  Derrick is a big part of this team so if your just going to hate on him move along.  

[zrjones13]

Sorry about the tangent probably should just block them.  In terms of the question, I feel like last year's team was much more talented which led to a lot of disappointment.  This year I had 0 expectations and have been pleasantly surprised at times.  I know that there are going to be games we show our youth and lose to teams that we shouldn't, but that's part of the rebuilding process.  I trust our leadership more this year and feel the future is brighter then before.

[Wojo'sMojo]

I should honestly block you, Nersellenson, and Texas Western but your extremely idiotic statements sometimes bring me to laughter, because it seems your trolling, but deep down I know your serious and am ashamed that your a fan.  Derrick works his but off and blaming last year's struggles on him makes you seem clueless.  Last year I was much more dissapointed with the lack of growth of Jamil who should have been our offensive leader but seemed to be nonexistent in many of the games.  Derrick might not have added much last year, but he didn't hurt us as much as others.  Derrick is a big part of this team so if your just going to hate on him move along.  If any of you three want to discuss this in person at a game where you can't hide behind a screen name send me a pm and I'll be happy to send along my section and row so we can "discuss"

Lol, Internet tough guy

[mujivitz06]

I sit in sec. 425 row J seat 4. But I don't want to fight with anyone.

[bilsu]

Well, a 9-9 team last year probably wouldn't be able to get to 9-9 in this year's Big East. 

Last year's team would of easily beat this year's Creighton team twice.
Villanova is better
DePaul is better
Butler is better
Seton Hall is better
Georgetown is better
Providence is worse
Xavier is worse
Creighton is worse
Marquette is worse
St John's is worse
That is 5 better & 5 worse, which is what you should expect.

[zrjones13]

Lol, Internet tough guy

[MarquetteDano]

Last year's team would of easily beat this year's Creighton team twice.
Villanova is better
DePaul is better
Butler is better
Seton Hall is better
Georgetown is better
Providence is worse
Xavier is worse
Creighton is worse
Marquette is worse
St John's is worse
That is 5 better & 5 worse, which is what you should expect.

I am not sure I agree with this analysis of the Big East.  You can't just say some teams are better and some are worse.  The average Sagarin rating for the Big East in 2013-14 was 80.63 which was good for 5th place.  This year it is 82.98 which is good for 2nd place.  RPI last year was .5570 (4th place).  This year:  .5902 (2nd place).

The Big East is better this year.  Thus, if we finish 9-9 we will have played better than the year before.  Especially considering we have had a better non-con this year than last year.  Our two best non-con wins last year were GW (RPI#36) and Southern (#176).  This year they are Tenn (#53) and G'Tech (#74).  Even the ASU win is rated higher than Southern.

If we finish 7-11 in the Big East I would agree we are about equal to last year.  If we win eight games or more in the Big East then this team is better.

[BM1090]

Last year's team would of easily beat this year's Creighton team twice.
Villanova is better
DePaul is better
Butler is better
Seton Hall is better
Georgetown is better
Providence is worse
Xavier is worse
Creighton is worse
Marquette is worse
St John's is worse
That is 5 better & 5 worse, which is what you should expect.

Creighton is worse and marquette is maybe worse, about the same. Everyone else is better.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Last year's team would of easily beat this year's Creighton team twice.
Villanova is better
DePaul is better
Butler is better
Seton Hall is better
Georgetown is better
Providence is worse
Xavier is worse
Creighton is worse
Marquette is worse
St John's is worse
That is 5 better & 5 worse, which is what you should expect.

Disagree

I think Villanova, Depaul, Butler, Seton Hall, Georgetown, and St. John's are better. I think Providence, Xavier, and Marquette are about what they were last season. Creighton is significantly worse.

[WarriorFan]

Look at it this way

Derrick 2015 > Derrick 2014  (like a million miles better)
Juan 2015 > Juan 2014 BY FAR
Carlino > Thomas
Fisher > OTule
Duane > Dawson

those are in favor or 2015 team.  2014 team was better in some ways as well
Gardner >>>>>> Taylor
Mayo > JJJ or Duane
Burton > noone
Wilson > Taylor but position for position now Juan > Wilson

And, most importantly, Wojo > Brent

I think if the two teams played each other, 2015 would win 6/10 times.