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wadesworld

Is our most important guard.  By far.  Duane simply isn't ready.  Carlino plays too out of control.  Derrick is the most consistent and the guy I trust with the basketball to not do something stupid with.

NickelDimer

I agree, but he also had a costly TO late
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wadesworld

Quote from: NickelDimer on January 06, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
I agree, but he also had a costly TO late

Yes.  But it was the only turnover of the game for him.

Daniel

Quote from: NickelDimer on January 06, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
I agree, but he also had a costly TO late

Who didn't?  Derrick played a solid game. Some freshman error hurt ( with Sandy and Duane), some poor passing, and dribbling into serior traffic. We don't really have guys who can dribble in traffic. And not enough shots for Luke.  

PGsHeroes32

The problem is while he is the most trust worthy with it in his hands...he keeps it in his hands too long too often.

If somehow you could combine him and Carlino you could have a pretty nice player
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GGGG

Quote from: wadesworld on January 06, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Yes.  But it was the only turnover of the game for him.


He had two.  His A/T over ratio was best on the team however.

wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 06, 2015, 08:23:26 PM

He had two.  His A/T over ratio was best on the team however.

My mistake.  Thought that was his first.

brewcity77

Derrick has to be on the floor at the end. He's a better ball handler and provider than anyone else in the backcourt.

Texas Western

We will never win a close game when Derrick is in the game with 5 minutes or less. He has terrible basketball iQ. He holds the ball way too much and is simply not a threat in any way and the other team knows it. That said he is not the goat of the game. He played hard etc.

brewcity77

Quote from: Texas Western on January 06, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
We will never win a close game when Derrick is in the game with 5 minutes or less. He has terrible basketball iQ. He holds the ball way too much and is simply not a threat in any way and the other team knows it. That said he is not the goat of the game. He played hard etc.

Did you even watch Carlino tonight? Derrick has 100000x the basketball IQ Carlino displayed in the last 5 minutes.

GGGG

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Quote from: Texas Western on January 06, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
We will never win a close game when Derrick is in the game with 5 minutes or less. He has terrible basketball iQ. He holds the ball way too much and is simply not a threat in any way and the other team knows it. That said he is not the goat of the game. He played hard etc.


Derrick has terrible basketball IQ?  Good lord he's probably the smartest player on the floor.  And we just won a close game where he was on the floor on Saturday.

I mean, I understand what you are saying about ball stopping in his hands.  But how many other players attacked with nowhere to go?  Like Duane's travel at the end of the game?  Sometimes moving slower is what this team needs.

TSmith34, Inc.

Somewhere, Ners is screaming.  Either that or he is remote typing through Texas Western.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
Derrick has to be on the floor at the end. He's a better ball handler and provider than anyone else in the backcourt.

Yep.  And he understands the game much better than Carlino.

forgetful

#13
Food for thought.  On the season:

Derrick    5-19 from 3....26%
JJJ          7-39 from 3....18%

I would actually like to see Derrick shoot more and JJJ less right now.

GGGG

Derrick is far down on the list of Marquette's troubles.  He is shooting by far the best in his career, 45% FG%, and has a 3:1 A/T ratio. 

79Warrior

Quote from: Texas Western on January 06, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
We will never win a close game when Derrick is in the game with 5 minutes or less. He has terrible basketball iQ. He holds the ball way too much and is simply not a threat in any way and the other team knows it. That said he is not the goat of the game. He played hard etc.

Your comments reflect a very low basketball IQ.

21rooster

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And I bet half of Derrick's misses were because the shot clock was winding down.  To say Derrick has a low basketball iq requires a low basketball iq.  

brewcity77

Derrick, Juan, and Fischer are our three most important players. While others can have big outings, those guys will give us good, consistently smart play on a nightly basis.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Texas Western on January 06, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
We will never win a close game when Derrick is in the game with 5 minutes or less. He has terrible basketball iQ. He holds the ball way too much and is simply not a threat in any way and the other team knows it. That said he is not the goat of the game. He played hard etc.

Tex, I hope we can chalk this up to frustration. Derrick's basketball IQ is miles above our other guards who regularly are out of control, out of position and commit dumb fouls. Tonight Duane was all three down the stretch, but I suppose you think that's OK because he threw up a terrible 3 that banked in. You have said in the past that you have children who are D1 athletes. Please tell me they're not basketball players.

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: forgetful on January 06, 2015, 08:34:00 PM
Food for thought.  On the season:

Derrick    5-19 from 3....26%
JJJ          7-39 from 3....18%

I would actually like to see Derrick shoot more and JJJ less right now.


That's an amazing statistic. What I like about Derrick is that he knows exactly the kind of player he is. Offensively he is pretty limited but he plays to his strengths. JJJ tries to do it all, Duane is completely out of control. All of our other guards could learn a lot from Derrick's play.

The commentating team was different today but I remember one of the previous FS1 commentators calling Derrick the "mind, body, and soul" of the team. In fact I remember him saying it about 5 times in one broadcast. I think that's kind of a stretch anyway but he has really improved in a lot of ways... He has become more aggressive with the ball and has made some clutch drives to the basket. His shooting percentage and confidence is up. I agree that he's earning the opportunity to get more play on offense.

amen426

At the 4:10 Mark, Derrick got benched for Carlino.

The next three possessions for Marquette
1. Juan Anderson layup off of great ball movement.
2. Luke Fischer layup off of great ball movement.
3. Duane Wilson bank three, after a nice inside-out ball movement. The bank was luck, obviously.

We cut a 6 pt deficit to 1 in 3 possessions with Derrick on the bench.

The two possessions before Derrick left?
1. Derrick Wilson turnover on a terrible entry pass.
2. Sandy Cohen turnover at 8 seconds. Derrick essentially held the ball for the first 24 seconds of the shot clock. He then kicked it to Cohen on the perimeter, and Cohen tried to create.

My point, the ball was not moving when Derrick was on the floor. The passing/spacing was much better w/ Carlino in those final 4 minutes.

Unfortunately, after we cut it to 1 -- Duane traveled.

On the next possession, they defended incredibly well -- and Carlino took a three on a high-screen from JA. I liked the look, it just hit back iron.

I'm not nearly as critical of Carlino's play tonight as seemingly everyone else is on this board. The ball movement is so much better when he's on the floor. When he's out, there is too much dribbling and perimeter passing. Carlino had a few turnovers, but he actually tries to get passes into the middle of the zone (which is exactly where you are supposed to attack the zone).

This is not meant to be a Carlino vs. Derrick post. There are plenty of minutes that both need to get, and both deserve to get. This board is just looking for a scapegoat -- but Carlino is not to blame for this loss.

Lennys Tap

Regarding basketball IQ (not ability, athleticism, etc.), Derrick and Luke are #s1 and 1A. Juan is next. After that it's a long drop. Actually, Derrick has been one of our top basketball IQ guys since he stepped on campus. Really bad shooter, really high IQ. Without it he wouldn't be playing D1, maybe not even DII or III.

94Warrior

Quote from: hilltopper65 on January 06, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
That's an amazing statistic. What I like about Derrick is that he knows exactly the kind of player he is. Offensively he is pretty limited but he plays to his strengths. JJJ tries to do it all, Duane is completely out of control. All of our other guards could learn a lot from Derrick's play.

The commentating team was different today but I remember one of the previous FS1 commentators calling Derrick the "mind, body, and soul" of the team. In fact I remember him saying it about 5 times in one broadcast. I think that's kind of a stretch anyway but he has really improved in a lot of ways... He has become more aggressive with the ball and has made some clutch drives to the basket. His shooting percentage and confidence is up. I agree that he's earning the opportunity to get more play on offense.

Please DON'T EVER quote Dickie 'Simpleton' Simkins again!

chapman

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
Derrick has to be on the floor at the end. He's a better ball handler and provider than anyone else in the backcourt.

And the shooting (three point, free throw, or otherwise) might not even be significantly worse than what we've seen from others.  Giving some a heart attack (at least if we went back in time), Derrick played 24 minutes and it wasn't enough.

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: 94Warrior on January 06, 2015, 09:11:06 PM
Please DON'T EVER quote Dickie 'Simpleton' Simkins again!

Haha I was wondering if anyone else was a little perturbed with his nearly inappropriate love for Derrick... Literally all he talked about that game...

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