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Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 10, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
As someone who is working through depression, I applaud him for being confident enough to say it in public.  It's a huge step to get past the stigma and deal with it out in the open.


I'm in the same camp Goooo.  Through this declaration, this kid has more strength than most going through this and we should support him.

if you think it's about chemicals or you belittle it, trust me....you have no idea what he's going through.

regardless if this thread gets locked y'all should think "if my kid had this issue would i like strangers analyzing him/her?"

Texas Western

Excellent point. I agree wholeheartedly.

21rooster

#227
To a bunch of 25 to 60 year old idiots who like to post speculation about high school kids on a public forum...think before you post.  These are kids...leave the speculation to things on the court.  It makes me sick that one of our kids had to take to facebook and Twitter to defend himself against wild speculation on our own message boards. 

wadesworld

Quote from: sroirraw on January 10, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
To a bunch of 25 to 60 year old idiots who like to post speculation about high school kids on a public forum...think before you post.  These are kids...leave the speculation to things on the court.  It makes me sick that one of our kids had to take to facebook and Twitter to defend himself against wild speculation on our own message boards. 

Well put.

Ellenson Guerrero

Props to the kid for having the balls to address the issue.  Makes a lot of the speculators look like major asswipes
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

Skatastrophy


Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: sroirraw on January 10, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
To a bunch of 25 to 60 year old idiots who like to post speculation about high school kids on a public forum...think before you post.  These are kids...leave the speculation to things on the court.  It makes me sick that one of our kids had to take to facebook and Twitter to defend himself against wild speculation on our own message boards. 

All the best to NN. It takes a lot of guts to post what he did and I hope it works out for him. Is it accurate that he did it because of MUScoop and/or other MU message boards?

GGGG

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 11, 2015, 08:54:20 AM
All the best to NN. It takes a lot of guts to post what he did and I hope it works out for him. Is it accurate that he did it because of MUScoop and/or other MU message boards?


It was all over the place.  For instance, just the evening before, a Wisconsin State Journal edited tweeted that it was "very odd" that NN wasn't in the gym for their game v. Verona.  I'm sure he has heard more whispers in the school hallways than he picked up from Marquette message boards.

brewcity77

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 11, 2015, 09:27:42 AMHe even admitted in later posts that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.  He admitted he heard about the condition that NN mentioned (i.e., the truth), but didn't want to post that on a public forum so he posted admittedly incorrect and misleading information.

Let's not pile untruths on top of untruths. This post is no better than anything else in here, and illustrates exactly why the thread should be shut, as many have called for. Let's look at what Hoopster actually posted rather than your misreprentation of his post.

Quote from: BCHoopster on January 10, 2015, 05:18:09 PMI heard that bit did not want to put it on a blog so I just put pain medication which he is taking to control the depression, hope he feels better, much like Gault at Wisky,

We can debate whether or not him taking meds should be discussed, we can even debate whether or not pain meds are prescribed for depression, but what Hoopster actually said is that Nick was taking pain meds to help manage the depression. I don't know the veracity of this and won't begin to speculate, but he didn't say that he was posting incorrect and misleading information.

None of us here are Nick's doctors or caretakers, so HIPAA doesn't apply to us. There's nothing specifically against this thread other than it being in poor taste. The kid has issues to deal with, and most anything on here will be either hearsay or speculation. I don't see any benefit to that, so I would agree with the people in here that are calling for this thread to be closed. Allowing it to continue will only likely serve two purposes -- first to drag a serious subject off topic and second to invite trolls that will take advantage of the forum to trash talk a kid who clearly is going through some serious stuff.

I don't know the truth of it, but I have some experience with depression, and I don't think anyone in Nick's position wants that aspect of their life discussed on a public forum. It's bad enough to deal with or help someone else deal with without having a bunch of strangers commenting and criticizing. Better to just shut this down, move on, and hope for the best for Nick.

BCHoopster

Truth or un-truth, the bottom line is that Nick and Gault and probably Larry Sanders have to get there REAL life together, sports are secondary.  So to those 3 people, get healthy and have
a beautiful life, if sports is part of there life, great. if not move on.  Time to move on,  hope Aaron Rodgers is healthy enough for a win today or can MU find a point guard next year.  Meaningful
stuff, not really.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 10, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
As someone who is working through depression, I applaud him for being confident enough to say it in public.  It's a huge step to get past the stigma and deal with it out in the open.

No kidding.

Here is to a quick bounce back. I am looking forward to seeing NN in a warrior uni next season. Get better soon!
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ronald dragon

Stay strong Nick the Marquette community is pulling for you. Focus on getting yourself better before you even worry about basketball again. Your health is number 1

Dawson Rental

Quote from: ronald dragon on January 11, 2015, 11:21:02 AM
Stay strong Nick the Marquette community is pulling for you. Focus on getting yourself better before you even worry about basketball again. Your health is number 1

+1  Without a doubt, this is the post I wish had made.  Well done.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

keefe

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 11, 2015, 09:56:22 AM

None of us here are Nick's doctors or caretakers, so HIPAA doesn't apply to us.

You clearly have no idea what HIPAA is...


Death on call

NickelDimer

Quote from: barfolomew on January 05, 2015, 11:41:26 AM

Perhaps next time the two of you should establish a safe word.



Cacao?
No Finish Line

Dawson Rental

Quote from: keefe on January 11, 2015, 11:32:13 AM
You clearly have no idea what HIPAA is...

From the Health and Human Services website.

"The Privacy Rule

The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other personal health information and applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically.  The Rule requires appropriate safeguards to protect the privacy of personal health information, and sets limits and conditions on the uses and disclosures that may be made of such information without patient authorization. The Rule also gives patients rights over their health information, including rights to examine and obtain a copy of their health records, and to request corrections."
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Lennys Tap

#241
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 11, 2015, 09:56:22 AM


I don't know the truth of it, but I have some experience with depression, and I don't think anyone in Nick's position wants that aspect of their life discussed on a public forum. It's bad enough to deal with or help someone else deal with without having a bunch of strangers commenting and criticizing. Better to just shut this down, move on, and hope for the best for Nick.

I don't mean to pick on you, Brew. Yours is but one of many "close this thread down, move along, don't talk about it and hope for the best for Nick" messages here. It's expressed in good faith - I don't for a moment doubt your compassion for Nick. But he has an illness, one that can be devastating. And when people are sick, whether it's depression, leukemia, breast cancer or whatever they need all the support they can get. When my wife was diagnosed with cancer, her (our) initial fears, uncertainties and "why me(s)" were replaced by gratitude for the overwhelming kindness and support from friends, family, acquaintances and well meaning strangers. Publicly fighting this horrible disease became very much a life affirming experience.

Contrast that with what people with depression, PTSD, bipolar disorder, etc. face. Initially confusion (what's wrong with me?) often followed by shame. Friends/loved ones often feel uncomfortable (what's the matter with Bob?) and withdraw. The disease makes people feel alone and isolated. People's reactions deepen the feeling.

What Nick (and fellow posters Goooo and naganiF) have done is courageous. We should celebrate their courage. Let's have dialogue about things that maybe make/made us feel uncomfortable. Only good things follow.

To that end it has been my good fortune to recently join the Board of Directors of a Chicago based non profit that does just that. Erasing the Distance solicits stories from real people about their mental health struggles (either personally or a loved one) and turns them into engaging scripts performed by a company of professional actors. The pieces are brought to schools, community organizations, hospitals and places of worship where the performance is followed by a dialogue between the audience and the actors and staff. Shine light, debunk myths, promote understanding and acceptance. To find out more, visit erasingthedistance.org and/or pm or email me (my email is in my profile).

Hope this doesn't come across as preachy, but 10+ years ago I lost a brother to suicide and mental health issues are of great import to me.

willie warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2015, 08:55:38 PM
Eh.. we talk about all kinds of things about recruits and students from other schools and even our potential recruits. Why not talk about this? Why is it so taboo? No one is saying anything slanderous.
Yeah--here come the thought police.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

willie warrior

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 11, 2015, 09:27:42 AM
Rocky, please check again.

The post Chili and Hards were responding to is not the truth and is not even remotely the same as what NN tweeted.  That kind of unsubstantiated rumor about a kid has no place on this board.  I really don't understand how you concluded that BCHoopster's post is the "truth, among wild speculation."  He even admitted in later posts that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.  He admitted he heard about the condition that NN mentioned (i.e., the truth), but didn't want to post that on a public forum so he posted admittedly incorrect and misleading information.  Just read through BCHoopster's posts on this thread.  Posting an untrue and misleading allegation in an effort to protect NN's privacy is a bit of a strange approach in my opinion, but I guess that's BCHoopster's call.  In any event, it shouldn't be on this board.

Lots of opinions, "truth", and speculation being spun here, but have not seen any real truth yet. So we should let the spin doctors and thought police rule the day?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

tower912

Not the thought police.   Common courtesy.   A chance to show restraint, respect, and class.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Chili on January 11, 2015, 02:04:13 PM
this entire thread is pathetic. we're talking about a KID not an adult. A unnatural carnal knowledgeING KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuke this thing. The fact that it is still up shows the lack of compete common sense the moderators have on this topic. Straight up pathetic Mods. You should be ashamed.

Calling the moderators pathetic only indicates an inability on your part to hold your emotions in check when dealing with this issue and undermines your argument.  Logic not intimidation should rule the day here.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Chili on January 11, 2015, 02:04:13 PM
this entire thread is pathetic. we're talking about a KID not an adult. A unnatural carnal knowledgeING KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuke this thing. The fact that it is still up shows the lack of compete common sense the moderators have on this topic. Straight up pathetic Mods. You should be ashamed.

This KID had the courage to talk openly about an illness he is dealing with. Good for him. If he had a knee injury everyone here would be cheering him on with his treatment, encouraging his recovery. What's wrong with people showing support for a courageous young man?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 11, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
This KID had the courage to talk openly about an illness he is dealing with. Good for him. If he had a knee injury everyone here would be cheering him on with his treatment, encouraging his recovery. What's wrong with people showing support for a courageous young man?

I think encouraging support for someone battling this illness is admirable, should continue, and is beneficial to the recovery of someone who has chosen to disclose this condition.

I can't speak for others, but I think the reason they want the thread nuked is because of all the baseless accusations that were thrown Nick's way. They want those removed and leave the support. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't mind that.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


jesmu84

Maybe I'm just not understanding what's going on here... If we had a player at MU or commit/recruit wasn't playing, we'd want to know why and we'd talk about it on here - whether it was injury, grades, whatever. Why is NN's not playing so taboo?

DienerTime34

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 11, 2015, 03:28:49 PM
Maybe I'm just not understanding what's going on here... If we had a player at MU or commit/recruit wasn't playing, we'd want to know why and we'd talk about it on here - whether it was injury, grades, whatever. Why is NN's not playing so taboo?

Basically because "depression" sounds scarier than "bad grades," "ankle injury" or "underage drinking."

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