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mu03eng

We all agree that Carlino was the best "free agent" out there, yes?  Also, he didn't prevent anyone from coming to MU since we still had open schollies.......ergo we can only compare him to players on the roster at the time.  Therefore, the only one Carlino would have prevented from playing is Dawson.  No offense to Dawson, but he's played directly for two coaches and when he hit the "open market" he ended up at a school like Liberty.  That's all the talent evaluation I need to know Carlino, whether we like it or not, was/is our best option for what we need.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

ATWizJr

So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?

brandx

Quote from: ATWizJr on January 08, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?

Ain't that the way it always goes?

Pakuni

Quote from: ATWizJr on January 08, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?

Next topic: Fishing.

brewcity77

Quote from: ATWizJr on January 08, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?

We can call it the Ners Effect. Under normal circumstances, the thread would have devolved into a discussion about Derrick, but the absence of Ners has shifted the focus to Carlino.

It's no less inappropriate, but at least a bit less repetitive.

mu03eng

Quote from: ATWizJr on January 08, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?

Consider it the Derrick corollary to Godwin's Law
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

We R Final Four

Quote from: ATWizJr on January 08, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
So, after 7 pages on a thread titled "Noskowiak?" we have no idea why he is/was not playing but the thread has evolved into a discussion of Carlino?  That about it?
Well, some claim to have an idea, but we will never know so as not to rat anyone out......or be wrong.

PuertoRicanNightmare

How about this, I would rather not have Carlino if it meant Burton and Dawson would've stayed.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 08, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
How about this, I would rather not have Carlino if it meant Burton and Dawson would've stayed.

Carlino has been money in mostly three-five games, no?

I think Wojo trusts Carlino's game experience but will hook him as needed.
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MU82

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 08, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
How about this, I would rather not have Carlino if it meant Burton and Dawson would've stayed.

And I'd have rather Carlino not transferred to Marquette if it meant Jessica Alba would've become my love slave.

It's about the same relevance.
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Texas Western

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 03:32:32 PM
Texas Western said that Carlino is why Dawson and Deonte transferred.  I don't believe he clarified if it was his mere presence or if they didn't get along with him or something like that.

With 8 guys, *everyone* is getting minutes.  No one is stealing minutes with such a short rotation.  Having him here isn't hurting anyone's development.

Kind of a snowball effect. Dawson and Deonte were roommates. Carlino came in and displaced Dawson .  In addition he took minutes from Duane and JJJ. The two of which then took minutes from Deonte.  So by his mere presence a bad situation was created and amplified by the fact he is an incorrigible chucker who is not disciplined by the coaches.  Kids being kids and having short vision, interpreted that as handwriting on the wall that there was no future for them. I blame the whole thing on Wojo and his lack of experience. It is water over the damn now and I have moved on. Go Carlino Go.

jesmu84

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Quote from: Texas Western on January 08, 2015, 11:23:04 PM
Kind of a snowball effect. Dawson and Deonte were roommates. Carlino came in and displaced Dawson .  In addition he took minutes from Duane and JJJ. The two of which then took minutes from Deonte. So by his mere presence a bad situation was created and amplified by the fact he is an incorrigible chucker who is not disciplined by the coaches.  Kids being kids and having short vision, interpreted that as handwriting on the wall that there was no future for them. I blame the whole thing on Wojo and his lack of experience. It is water over the damn now and I have moved on. Go Carlino Go.

So you're telling me the coaching staff viewed Carlino as better than Dawson, JJJ and Duane? And they further viewed JJJ and Duane as better than Dawson? And we're supposed to be upset about the player who was the bottom of the depth chart transferring, why?

RJax55

Quote from: Texas Western on January 08, 2015, 11:23:04 PM
Kind of a snowball effect. Dawson and Deonte were roommates. Carlino came in and displaced Dawson .  In addition he took minutes from Duane and JJJ. The two of which then took minutes from Deonte.  So by his mere presence a bad situation was created and amplified by the fact he is an incorrigible chucker who is not disciplined by the coaches.  Kids being kids and having short vision, interpreted that as handwriting on the wall that there was no future for them. I blame the whole thing on Wojo and his lack of experience. It is water over the damn now and I have moved on. Go Carlino Go.

Haha, you have moved on, ok. You continue to create new theories about why these transfers took place. First it was due to Derrick's minutes, but he starting playing better, so I guess its now Carlino's fault. Looking forward to your new theory.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 08, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
How about this, I would rather not have Carlino if it meant Burton and Dawson would've stayed.

What do you have against finishing above .500?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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keefe

Quote from: MU82 on January 08, 2015, 10:12:22 PM
Jessica Alba would've become my love slave.


WTF?? You mean she's NOT your love slave??

"Pleasure me, MU82! Make me a woman!"



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warriorfred

A simple request, all threads shall devolve into discussions about Jessica Alba, as opposed to "Aina," I4, or Bert.  Moderators, please make this happen.

reinko

Quote from: Texas Western on January 08, 2015, 11:23:04 PM
Kind of a snowball effect. Dawson and Deonte were roommates. Carlino came in and displaced Dawson .  In addition he took minutes from Duane and JJJ. The two of which then took minutes from Deonte.  So by his mere presence a bad situation was created and amplified by the fact he is an incorrigible chucker who is not disciplined by the coaches.  Kids being kids and having short vision, interpreted that as handwriting on the wall that there was no future for them. I blame the whole thing on Wojo and his lack of experience. It is water over the damn now and I have moved on. Go Carlino Go.

Didn't know minutes could be taken.   Carlino, what was the first to raise his hand,  so he got to played .  He yelled,  "called it",  thus the minutes were his.

In no possible way could those minutes been earned,  and given out by a head coach who in his 20+ year career in D-1 basketball made an estimation that by giving said minutes to Carlino would give Marquette the best opportunity to win.

brewcity77

Quote from: warriorfred on January 09, 2015, 03:58:52 AM
A simple request, all threads shall devolve into discussions about Jessica Alba, as opposed to "Aina," I4, or Bert.  Moderators, please make this happen.

Just to make sure we don't get off topic...


brandx

Quote from: keefe on January 09, 2015, 03:32:56 AM
WTF?? You mean she's NOT your love slave??

"Pleasure me, MU82! Make me a woman!"



Five hours for you to post this pic after the first Jessica Alba mention?

You're slowing down, old mam.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: brandx on January 09, 2015, 07:39:22 AM
Five hours for you to post this pic after the first Jessica Alba mention?

You're slowing down, old mam.

Either that, or he got "distracted" after doing a google image search for Jessica Alba.
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GGGG

Quote from: Texas Western on January 08, 2015, 11:23:04 PM
Kind of a snowball effect. Dawson and Deonte were roommates. Carlino came in and displaced Dawson .  In addition he took minutes from Duane and JJJ. The two of which then took minutes from Deonte.  So by his mere presence a bad situation was created and amplified by the fact he is an incorrigible chucker who is not disciplined by the coaches.  Kids being kids and having short vision, interpreted that as handwriting on the wall that there was no future for them. I blame the whole thing on Wojo and his lack of experience. It is water over the damn now and I have moved on. Go Carlino Go.


It has been established that Carlino is a "chucker" is simple not accurate. 

Carlino averages a shot every 3.3 minutes of playing time.
Duane averages a shot every 3.1 minutes of playing time.
JJJ averages a shot every 2.8 minutes of playing time.

And how do you know if he is, or is not, disciplined by the coaches?

Really when it comes down to the transfers, John Dawson is a great kid but he is a Big South type of player.  He isn't a high major guy.  Like with Jamail and Ferguson, I would call him more of a recruiting mistake than anything else.

As for Deonte, he was getting playing time.  16 mpg.  For whatever reason he decided that he wasn't happy with his situation and left.  Despite the fact that there are three seniors graduating and plenty of playing time available for the taking.  But if he didn't like Wojo, or they simply didn't mesh, and since Wojo isn't going anywhere Deonte had to be the one to go.  It happens.

MU82

Quote from: keefe on January 09, 2015, 03:32:56 AM
WTF?? You mean she's NOT your love slave??

"Pleasure me, MU82! Make me a woman!"



Well no ... I've been her love slave for awhile.

I know -- semantics, semantics.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 09, 2015, 08:35:02 AM

It has been established that Carlino is a "chucker" is simple not accurate. 

Carlino averages a shot every 3.3 minutes of playing time.
Duane averages a shot every 3.1 minutes of playing time.
JJJ averages a shot every 2.8 minutes of playing time.




I guess it begs the question of "what is a chucker?"

I think it is based more on shot selection rather than frequency of shots.  Someone who shoots a 25' shot 5-7 seconds into the shot clock, could certainly be considered a chucker in my book.  Because he doesn't shoot again for 5 more minutes doesn't change the fact that he chucked one up..............even though in this scenario he only took two shots in 5 min.

GGGG

Qualitatively I don't think Carlino takes any more bad shots than the other two.  I think this is again another one of our "failing to meet expectations" issues that we have trouble with at times. 

BCHoopster

At least Carlino makes some shots compared to the other two.

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