Duane

[MU82]

I have been surprised by the depths of Duane's shooting slump. In the seven-game stretch beginning with his 1-for-9 vs. Wisconsin, here are his totals:

19-60 from the floor (31.7%) ... 1-18 from 3 (an eye-popping 5.6%)... 20-30 from the line (66.7%) ... 16 assists to 9 TOs.

Obviously, given his history as a pure shooter, his 3-point woes really stand out. I knew he was struggling but when I tallied it up and saw 1-for-18, I was absolutely floored.

Add in Duane's looseness with the ball and often questionable decision-making, and it's easy to see why Wojo has become a little reluctant to play him at times.

I still think Duane is going to be a very good player. I hope he pulls out of this slump soon because our team desperately needs him -- and, even more, because he needs to get his confidence back.

[rocky_warrior]

I'm hopeful that he's getting his sophomore slump out of the way now (in his first year of playing), so that he can turn it up come March

Gotta dream big...

[GGGG]

Duane is playing like a freshman.  The key is that it doesn't become too much of a mental problem for him and that the rest of this season isn't shot.  I still think he is going to go down as a very good player, and this episode will be a mere blip in his career.

[GooooMarquette]

Duane certainly has talent, and I suspect it's just a slump.  In the meantime, I like that he is still taking it aggressively to the hoop.

[MUfan12]

Posted in another thread that it looks like he's pushing the ball when he shoots. He just needs to let it fly with some more arc and he'll be fine.

[jsglow]

The good news is that everyone on the team this year is going to be in a position to play their way out of any slump.  I'm expecting this to really benefit us down the road.  Whether that manifests itself in wins this year is yet to be determined.

[tower912]

Duane is playing his way through his freshman slump.   This is not a long term harbinger.   

[PGsHeroes32]

This definitely sucks that he is in such a bad stretch but he will be fine.


Derrick Walton for Michigan has very similar numbers this year and he is a sophomore.

Bad spell for Duane. He will get it around.

The thing for him is he isn't quite as explosive as JJJ so it's tougher to make up for bad jump shooting.

[77ncaachamps]

Remember: this is the first D-1 season on the court for Duane.

Can't wait for him to really get his legs under him and stroke the ball in Feb/Mar.

[willie warrior]

Maybe he is suffering for getting yanked when he misses a shot. Some MU coaches do that to some players. Now Carlino can throw up any shot he wants, and is encouraged to keep pumping.

[Texas Western]

Maybe he is suffering for getting yanked when he misses a shot. Some MU coaches do that to some players. Now Carlino can throw up any shot he wants, and is encouraged to keep pumping.

Agreed

[Stretchdeltsig]

I think Duane is very gifted and will play his way out of this slump.  He has all the tools and great coaches who were guards, who will help him be the best player that he can be.

[BCHoopster]

Hit a shot it might help him, he has had good looks. JJJ. Is getting benched as well. There young so be it,  teaching lessons. Carlino notbenched as much as he is a senior and they do not have much else.  Has to play Cohen more, 12. Minutes not enough  when you score  12 points in that time

[GGGG]

Oh please.  Duane is getting plenty of time to play and plenty of room to make mistakes.  

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Maybe he is suffering for getting yanked when he misses a shot. Some MU coaches do that to some players. Now Carlino can throw up any shot he wants, and is encouraged to keep pumping.

Agreed

What games are you watching? Duane has been allowed to stay on the floor after missing several in a row. He's never had less than 17 minutes in a game during this slump, and has had less  than 20 only once (the North Dakota game when Derrick had his best game).

Carlino was allowed to shoot despite misses in the Depaul game. Wojo adapted the very next game. Against Providence, Carlino got pulled after EVERY missed three. It was never for very long but he would get 30-60 seconds on the bench to clear his head and then go back in.

I know fans get attached to certain players, but remember its about the team. Duane is a favorite player but he's not playing well right now, plain and simple. Despite that, Wojo has trusted him with about 25 minutes per game during this seven game slump. What else do you want from Wojo? Give more minutes to a guy shooting 30% from the field and 5% from three when there are other players who play his position that are doing better?

Duane will play his way out of the slump, but in the mean time you need to play someone who isn't slumping.

[Texas Western]

What games are you watching? Duane has been allowed to stay on the floor after missing several in a row. He's never had less than 17 minutes in a game during this slump, and has had less  than 20 only once (the North Dakota game when Derrick had his best game).

Carlino was allowed to shoot despite misses in the Depaul game. Wojo adapted the very next game. Against Providence, Carlino got pulled after EVERY missed three. It was never for very long but he would get 30-60 seconds on the bench to clear his head and then go back in.

I know fans get attached to certain players, but remember its about the team. Duane is a favorite player but he's not playing well right now, plain and simple. Despite that, Wojo has trusted him with about 25 minutes per game during this seven game slump. What else do you want from Wojo? Give more minutes to a guy shooting 30% from the field and 5% from three when there are other players who play his position that are doing better?

Duane will play his way out of the slump, but in the mean time you need to play someone who isn't slumping.

I would like to see Wojo treat Duane (and JJJ) the same way when he sits them. Out for a minute then back in. He seems to banish Duane and JJJ for longer periods. I hate to keep beating the same drum but Carlino is treated differently and I don't think that helps team chemistry.

[brewcity77]

I would like to see Wojo treat Duane (and JJJ) the same way when he sits them. Out for a minute then back in. He seems to banish Duane and JJJ for longer periods. I hate to keep beating the same drum but Carlino is treated differently and I don't think that helps team chemistry.

I understand treating them differently. Carlino is a senior, they are underclassmen. The expectation from your seniors is that they will adapt and overcome more quickly to those mistakes, and the young guys will know that in the future as they gain trust they will be treated similarly. For better or worse, I think it's just part of the growth process.

[willie warrior]

What games are you watching? Duane has been allowed to stay on the floor after missing several in a row. He's never had less than 17 minutes in a game during this slump, and has had less  than 20 only once (the North Dakota game when Derrick had his best game).

Carlino was allowed to shoot despite misses in the Depaul game. Wojo adapted the very next game. Against Providence, Carlino got pulled after EVERY missed three. It was never for very long but he would get 30-60 seconds on the bench to clear his head and then go back in.

I know fans get attached to certain players, but remember its about the team. Duane is a favorite player but he's not playing well right now, plain and simple. Despite that, Wojo has trusted him with about 25 minutes per game during this seven game slump. What else do you want from Wojo? Give more minutes to a guy shooting 30% from the field and 5% from three when there are other players who play his position that are doing better?

Duane will play his way out of the slump, but in the mean time you need to play someone who isn't slumping.

Watched several games this year where Carlino played out of control, with the dribble or threw up wild shots, and was not yanked. And Wojo does yanking on the kid, compared to Carlino. And Wojo has not had the kid in the lineup in the last game the last 5.5 minutes, and the game before he sat for over 3 minutes before put him in for the last 30 seconds. You may define that as trust. What games have you been watching?

[BM1090]

Watched several games this year where Carlino played out of control, with the dribble or threw up wild shots, and was not yanked. And Wojo does yanking on the kid, compared to Carlino. And Wojo has not had the kid in the lineup in the last game the last 5.5 minutes, and the game before he sat for over 3 minutes before put him in for the last 30 seconds. You may define that as trust. What games have you been watching?

Also had enough trust in Duane that he ran a play to get him a 3 point look at the end of the DePaul game.

[Loose Cannon]

Maybe he is suffering for getting yanked when he misses a shot. Some MU coaches do that to some players. Now Carlino can throw up any shot he wants, and is encouraged to keep pumping.

I think your Agenda is showing.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Shooting slump or not, I've been very impressed with Duane. A definite building block...maybe even more than that.

[GGGG]

I would like to see Wojo treat Duane (and JJJ) the same way when he sits them. Out for a minute then back in. He seems to banish Duane and JJJ for longer periods. I hate to keep beating the same drum but Carlino is treated differently and I don't think that helps team chemistry.

Right.  Because the one thing every basketball coach does is treat everyone equally.  That way there are no chemistry issues...as long as someone brings the orange slices after the game.

The reason why Carlino's breaks are shorter is because he is more important, and less replaceable, than JJJ or Duane - who oftentimes replace one another in the rotation.

This idea that you have with Carlino affecting team chemistry has no basis in evidence whatsoever.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

The reason why Carlino's breaks are shorter is because he is more important, and less replaceable, than JJJ or Duane - who oftentimes replace one another in the rotation.

This is utter nonsense.

[Texas Western]

Right.  Because the one thing every basketball coach does is treat everyone equally.  That way there are no chemistry issues...as long as someone brings the orange slices after the game.

The reason why Carlino's breaks are shorter is because he is more important, and less replaceable, than JJJ or Duane - who oftentimes replace one another in the rotation.

This idea that you have with Carlino affecting team chemistry has no basis in evidence whatsoever.

Two players have quit in large part because of Carlino, I am not sure how much more impact on team chemistry there could be.

Also JJJ and Duane are central to our winning, we need one or the other of  them to have a good game at all times . We would not have won the game Saturday without JJJs strong overall performance for example.

Carlino is fine as an instant offense guy and can score when he has tons of space to shoot. He has a role on the team at around 20 minutes in my view. 25-28 if he is on fire. He is a poor mans Drew Neitzel and not anywhere near as athletically gifted as Duane or JJJ.

[GooooMarquette]

Maybe Duane (and JJJ) aren't getting yanked for missing shots.  Maybe it's for Wojo to teach them things that will help them and the team later.  We don't know the details of all the game plans and specific assignments - maybe Matt does more of what Wojo tells him to do, and Duane and JJJ still miss out on more instructions.