Friars Thoughts

[tower912]

15.  Four guards and Juan against a really good team?   I did not like that look at all.    I can see it at the end of the game (and was actually hoping for it) against the press.    During the middle of the game as a change up against a team with the size of Providence?    Ick. 

[PGsHeroes32]

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588400

Box score with minutes.   MU wins the rebounding war.  (nice work, JJJ)   12 steals.   

6 guys with 2 steals nice

[keefe]

Crying in his beer at some dive bar

What the hell is wrong with dive bars??

Back in the day, Marquette was nothing but...it was a time when the quality of the watering hole was measured in the adhesive strength of the floor on your Topsiders, how many drafts you got for a dollar, and the stale odor of spilled beer mixed with urine and the cheap perfume of too many fat assed coeds looking for companionship in the cold darkness of a Milwaukee winter.
 

[tower912]

True dat.    Murph's, The Gym, The Gloc, O'D's, The 'Lanche, Heg's, the State House... none of them could be called hip or trendy.   But they were ours. 

[connie]

What the hell is wrong with dive bars??

Back in the day, Marquette was nothing but...it was a time when the quality of the watering hole was measured in the adhesive strength of the floor on your Topsiders, how many drafts you got for a dollar, and the stale odor of spilled beer mixed with urine and the cheap perfume of too many fat assed coeds looking for companionship in the cold darkness of a Milwaukee winter.
 

Ahhh memories...

[keefe]

True dat.    Murph's, The Gym, The Gloc, O'D's, The 'Lanche, Heg's, the State House... none of them could be called hip or trendy.   But they were ours. 

Don't forget Lenny's, my friend.

[MU82]

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400588400

Box score with minutes.   MU wins the rebounding war.  (nice work, JJJ)   12 steals.   

If  you had told me before the game that Luke and Juan would combine for 6 rebounds, I'd have thought we'd get killed on the boards and in the game.

[bilsu]

Duane is really struggling. I would start JJJ over Duane. Sooner or later every one here will realize that Derrick is the best guard on this team.

[Wojo'sMojo]

Duane is really struggling. I would start JJJ over Duane. Sooner or later every one here will realize that Derrick is the best guard on this team.

Not likely.

[HutchwasClutch]

Duane is really struggling. I would start JJJ over Duane. Sooner or later every one here will realize that Derrick is the best guard on this team.

Don't mess with success, JJJ is finding a niche coming off the bench.  His shot still isn't there, but he's impacting the games in other ways. 

As far as Duane, he's obviously in a slump.  Not really surprising, he's a first year player.  There's going to be ups and downs for him this year.  We've seen both already.  Let him play through it.  I don't think bringing him off the bench is the magic answer. 

[Texas Western]

Duane is really struggling. I would start JJJ over Duane. Sooner or later every one here will realize that Derrick is the best guard on this team.

I would like to see JJJ start and have him paired with Duane. Very difficult combo to defense.

[HutchwasClutch]

I would like to see JJJ start and have him paired with Duane. Very difficult combo to defense.

Not now they aren't, not even close.  Neither of them can throw it in the ocean from beyond 15 feet away.

[wadesworld]

I would like to see JJJ start and have him paired with Duane. Very difficult combo to defense.

I like what Wojo is doing in riding the hot hand between the two.  Subbing 1 for the other.  They have potential, but they are very inconsistent in their production right now.  Heck, people were livid with Carlino's 3-14 shooting against DePaul and now JJJ shoots 3-13 and we want to see more of him with a guy who shot 2-9 because they're a difficult combo "to defense."  Again, I love their huge potential but they need to start showing some consistency before I'm ready to call for more minutes for them over a guy like Derrick.

[PGsHeroes32]

I like what Wojo is doing in riding the hot hand between the two.  Subbing 1 for the other.  They have potential, but they are very inconsistent in their production right now.  Heck, people were livid with Carlino's 3-14 shooting against DePaul and now JJJ shoots 3-13 and we want to see more of him with a guy who shot 2-9 because they're a difficult combo "to defense."  Again, I love their huge potential but they need to start showing some consistency before I'm ready to call for more minutes for them over a guy like Derrick.

I think the difference between Carlino vs DePaul and JJJ today was pretty blatant.

Hopefully you saw it yourself and just said the above just because

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I would like to see JJJ start and have him paired with Duane. Very difficult combo to defense.

Until one of them develops a consistent outside shot playing them together for long stretches will be counterproductive. Having two players who can slash but can't shoot is redundant. They both serve the same purpose on the court and would get in each other's way.

Duane's had a truly awful stretch of seven games. Jajuan's been better but he still shoots the three worse than Derrick Wilson. I'm hoping Duane snaps out of it but I'm not hopeful about JjJ's three point shooting. At least not until he gets rid of the awkward hitch in his shot.

[Wojo'sMojo]

Until one of them develops a consistent outside shot playing them together for long stretches will be counterproductive. Having two players who can slash but can't shoot is redundant. They both serve the same purpose on the court and would get in each other's way.

Duane's had a truly awful stretch of seven games. Jajuan's been better but he still shoots the three worse than Derrick Wilson. I'm hoping Duane snaps out of it but I'm not hopeful about JjJ's three point shooting. At least not until he gets rid of the awkward hitch in his shot.

JJJ is shooting .212 compared to Derrick's .222. I wouldnt really consider that shooting it better. Oh and he's made six 3's in his entire career. I think I know who I would rather have taking the 3 between them.

[BossplayaOtto]

JJJ is shooting .212 compared to Derrick's .222. I wouldnt really consider that shooting it better. Oh and he's made six 3's in his entire career. I think I know who I would rather have taking the 3 between them.

career 3pt
JJJ  16-64 .250
Derrick 6-41 .146

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

JJJ is shooting .212 compared to Derrick's .222. I wouldnt really consider that shooting it better. Oh and he's made six 3's in his entire career. I think I know who I would rather have taking the 3 between them.

Sigh, I was using Derrick Wilson a measurement of how poor JjJ has been shooting. I wasn't actually comparing the two. I don't care who I'd rather have shooting a three pointer between JjJ and Derrick. The point is that if your in the same neighborhood as Derrick Wilson, then you aren't shooting the three very well right now.

[tower912]

Providence was able to guard Fischer in the post without double teaming.   It took a while to figure out what to do next.    Another permutation for Wojo to work on.   How to run the offense when Fischer can be neutralized by one defender.

[willie warrior]

Not now they aren't, not even close.  Neither of them can throw it in the ocean from beyond 15 feet away.

But Derrick can!

[Texas Western]

Until one of them develops a consistent outside shot playing them together for long stretches will be counterproductive. Having two players who can slash but can't shoot is redundant. They both serve the same purpose on the court and would get in each other's way.

Duane's had a truly awful stretch of seven games. Jajuan's been better but he still shoots the three worse than Derrick Wilson. I'm hoping Duane snaps out of it but I'm not hopeful about JjJ's three point shooting. At least not until he gets rid of the awkward hitch in his shot.

JJJ is a good free throw shooter. Some of his missed shots end up at the line. His range from beyond 15 feet needs to improve, he creates a lot of wide open looks for himself that he should be dropping down more. The more I watch him I think your correct
About that hitch. It seems as if he developed his shot for inside play , floaters and free throws .

[Skatastrophy]

Providence was able to guard Fischer in the post without double teaming.   It took a while to figure out what to do next.    Another permutation for Wojo to work on.   How to run the offense when Fischer can be neutralized by one defender.

I'm happy the team experienced this scenario early in the season and still pulled off a win. Great opportunity for growth.

[MU82]

Sooner or later every one here will realize that Derrick is the best guard on this team.

Well, I don't know about that.

But as was the case with Lockett last season, I am starting to realize that Derrick is pretty good at his assigned role.

He sat for a few minutes yesterday and the offense was extremely disorganized, consisting mostly of unsuccessful one-on-one drives to the hoop by the younger guards. I surprised myself when I said, "Wojo needs to get Derrick back in there." I never thought I would utter those words.

[GGGG]

A lot of people said last year that the problem was a backcourt of Derrick and Jake.  Now that MU has better scoring options, especially Matt Carlino, the lack of scoring production from Derrick isn't as big of a deal and his positive attributes are easier to see.  He defends well, rebounds well, and has been more aggressive this year.  He is the extension of the coach on the floor.

[MU82]

A lot of people said last year that the problem was a backcourt of Derrick and Jake.  Now that MU has better scoring options, especially Matt Carlino, the lack of scoring production from Derrick isn't as big of a deal and his positive attributes are easier to see.  He defends well, rebounds well, and has been more aggressive this year.  He is the extension of the coach on the floor.

I agree with all of this, Sultan.

It doesn't change my opinion that last season Derrick was one of the worst starting high-major PGs I'd ever seen or that our starting backcourt might have been the worst in Marquette history.

I never "blamed" Derrick for any of that. It wasn't his fault that he was thrust into a role for which he wasn't equipped or that he was not surrounded by players who could help him execute his role better.