Carlino 3-14

[Warrior of Law]

What are you going to do? The guy struggled (3-14 from the floor) and, as a result, they lose.  If he hits any of those bombs its a different outcome. He was terrible today. End of story.

[murphmurphy]

You forgot to mention he plays no defense.  This team is not going to win the Big East so when Carlino is playing poorly give Cohen some minutes and experience.

[Class71]

What are you going to do? The guy struggled (3-14 from the floor) and, as a result, they lose.  If he hits any of those bombs its a different outcome. He was terrible today. End of story.

I we had beat DePaul by 1 would have been better than a loss but offers little comfort. Also there were a host of other dunderhead plays by this team. A bad shooting day by one player is only one part of a very large problem.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

3-14 understates his awfulness on both ends of the floor.  He was also responsible for several misses by others when he forced the ball to them with the shot clock expiring.

Not a lot of choices this year, however.  It's a rebuilding year.

[warriorfan 14]

and we wonder why depaul was happy to see him go. he can hit some shots and will win us at least one other game, but when he isn't hitting shots his piss poor defense and stupid defense will lose us just as many if not more.

[tower912]

You mean BYU. 

[314warrior]

If the Mormons at BYU weren't so damn nice, they'd probably be enjoying a nice frosty mug of schadenfreude.

[tower912]

If the Mormons at BYU weren't so damn nice, they'd probably be enjoying a nice frosty mug of schadenfreude.

As long as it was non-alcoholic and caffeine free. 

[wadesworld]

We're going to do this after every bad game he has aren't we?

[wadesworld]

Even after today's 1-10 shooting from 3 point land by Carlino, he is shooting 45% from 3 point range.  You're really going to say he's useless and that this is why the Mormons are glad to see him go?  I, for one, am glad he is on the team.  Can you imagine JJJ, Duane, Juan, and Luke (the only other guys on the team who have a chance to have big scoring games really) trying to score without Carlino's ability to spread a defense (okay, at least Duane can shoot the 3 as well so I'll give him that too).  He's shooting 41% from the field.  While not great, it's not brutal like you guys are acting like it is.  And again, 45% from 3 point rainge!  On 4 attempts per game!  That's really, really good.  He's averaging 12.3 ppg, 4.1 apg, 3 rpg, 1.2 spg, and 1.9 turnovers/game.  I, for one, am glad he's a Warrior.  The fact of the matter is, we just aren't a very good team.  Not sure why people thought we would be or what they expected.

Why are we discussing how bad Carlino is when I see no mention of STJ's 1-7 shooting.  At least Carlino has shown up for more than 1 game this season.

[tower912]

Fair point, Wades.   I, too, am glad he is at MU.   But he is what he is.   He is what he was at BYU.   He can shoot you into games, he can shoot you out of games.   Today was a bad day.   There is no way to spin it. 

[GGGG]

I agree completely with Wades.  He was brutal today, but this team would be completely lost without Carlino. 

[brewcity77]

Carlino can win you games and Carlino can lose you games. The hope is that most of the time when he's off the mark, he has the sense to defer to other shooters. When he keeps shooting, this happens.

Still a good player and valuable member of the team, but we all knew what we were getting.

[wadesworld]

What I have noticed is that he has been willing to defer shots to the hot hand when he isn't hot.  The problem is, nobody was hot today.  This was a total team loss.  Nobody played well, including Carlino.

[connie]

What I have noticed is that he has been willing to defer shots to the hot hand when he isn't hot.  The problem is, nobody was hot today.  This was a total team loss.  Nobody played well, including Carlino.

While I agree, for some reason Carlino pi$$es me off.  When he is having a game THIS bad, put in Cohen.

[warriorfan 14]

While I agree, for some reason Carlino pi$$es me off.  When he is having a game THIS bad, put in Cohen.

agreed, you can't play seven guys and expect too succeed in the big east. season looks like a lost cause...give the young guys a chance...lets not pull another buzz williams with this season

[mattyv1908]

agreed, you can't play seven guys and expect too succeed in the big east. season looks like a lost cause...give the young guys a chance...lets not pull another buzz williams with this season

You could argue we already have.

[chapman]

While I agree, for some reason Carlino pi$$es me off.  When he is having a game THIS bad, put in Cohen.

Yep, play him when he's on.  Don't ride him for 36 minutes when he's terrible.  Cohen getting a DNP and JJ only 17 minutes  isn't cool when the offense gets that bogged down.

[GGGG]

JJJ only had 17 minutes?  Yeah, while he did have some bonehead plays, that isn't nearly enough.

[Warrior of Law]

Carlino is still essential to the teams success. When he's bad, we're doomed. Cohen sitting was a surprise.

[Dawson Rental]

agreed, you can't play seven guys and expect too succeed in the big east. season looks like a lost cause...give the young guys a chance...lets not pull another buzz williams with this season

I think you mean young guy, singular.  Just eight scholarship guys this semester.  Is not playing walkons "pulling a Buzz Williams"?

I don't know why Cohen didn't play today.  It was a surprise given the fact that he he's gotten into every game prior, IIRC.  His outside shooting would have helped.  It could have been health related.  A lot of flu going around these days.

I continue to take issue in general with the "play the young guys" philosophy.  If someone doesn't show in practice that they know what they are doing on the court, I agree that throwing them out there to learn "on the fly" seems to be a poor choice.  Why then should anyone bother leaning the offense and defense in practice?

[connie]

I think you mean young guy, singular.  Just eight scholarship guys this semester.  Is not playing walkons "pulling a Buzz Williams"?

I don't know why Cohen didn't play today.  It was a surprise given the fact that he he's gotten into every game prior, IIRC.  His outside shooting would have helped.  It could have been health related.  A lot of flu going around these days.

I continue to take issue in general with the "play the young guys" philosophy.  If someone doesn't show in practice that they know what they are doing on the court, I agree that throwing them out there to learn "on the fly" seems to be a poor choice.  Why then should anyone bother leaning the offense and defense in practice?

If the choice involves playing a one year super(ha)- senior in a year with little hope versus a freshman with a good upside I am all in with the freshman.  I don't know if we are at that point yet, but we hung around on the perimeter last year long enough to leave us with the worst possible situation, and I do not want to find the team in that position again.

[murara1994]

We've only got 8 guys. If you can't earn time in an 8 man rotation that's on you, not the coach. Seriously the complaints on message boards like this are ridiculous.

[hairy worthen]

As long as it was non-alcoholic and caffeine free. 

And served up by multiple wives

[ecompt]

JJJ only had 17 minutes?  Yeah, while he did have some bonehead plays, that isn't nearly enough.

The two fast breaks killed us. DuWil going in 1=-on-2 and losing the ball and Derrick making the incredibly boneheaded decision to give the ball to Luke.