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tower912

1.  MU isn't that good.
2.  Hyping Fischer...not a good game.   They started sitting on his passes out of the double team. 
3.  Offensive rebounding kept MU in the game. 
4.  Steve did not have the breakthrough game MU needed. 
5.  Carlino can shoot you into a game.   Today, he didn't do that.  He was the bad Carlino today.  No getting around it.  Somewhere, BYU fans are saying, "yeah, that guy.  We don't miss him." 
6.  MU played not to lose in the second half.   Sloppy with the ball, not enough movement off of the ball. 
7.  Gotta make open 3's.   Gotta make free throws. 
8.  No Cohen.   7 man rotation is awfully lonely.   
9.  MU's half court offense was not good today.   
10.  They let DePaul hang around.   They paid the price. 
11.  This was the best chance for MU to win a conference road game.   
12.  Duane should have been in more down the stretch.   
13.  I predicted 7 conference wins.  If we are lucky. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Mu2323

If you lose to depaul you might as well end the season.

warriorstrack

Lowered expectations by Jack Handy

ChuckyChip

Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
5.  Carlino can shoot you into a game.   Today, he didn't do that.  He was the bad Carlino today.  No getting around it.  Somewhere, BYU fans are saying, "yeah, that guy.  We don't miss him."  

Agreed.  Never can blame a loss on one guy, but Carlino has to make a few shots for us to have a chance.  Plus he missed a couple of key free throws.

injuryBug

with Carlino so bad why not play Duane more he can create off the dribble much better.  
3 on 1 charge on Luke changed the game.  As a guard you only give to a big if he can finish above the rim on the break.  Derrick had 2 options over the top to Duane or take it himself

dgies9156

We went into conserve way too early and lost our aggressiveness in the second half. It was a rookie coaching mistake made in part to keep our team fresh.

This will be a problem all season in some ways.

Luke looked better than some here think. Loved that one swat-away block.

Folks, we'll learn!

madtownwarrior

13.  I predicted 7 conference wins.  If we are lucky.  

7 wins - not even sure who this team can beat - maybe DePaul at home?  1 - 17 - are we Depaul this year?



Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
1.  MU isn't that good.
2.  Hyping Fischer...not a good game.   They started sitting on his passes out of the double team. 
3.  Offensive rebounding kept MU in the game. 
4.  Steve did not have the breakthrough game MU needed. 
5.  Carlino can shoot you into a game.   Today, he didn't do that.  He was the bad Carlino today.  No getting around it.  Somewhere, BYU fans are saying, "yeah, that guy.  We don't miss him." 
6.  MU played not to lose in the second half.   Sloppy with the ball, not enough movement off of the ball. 
7.  Gotta make open 3's.   Gotta make free throws. 
8.  No Cohen.   7 man rotation is awfully lonely.   
9.  MU's half court offense was not good today.   
10.  They let DePaul hang around.   They paid the price. 
11.  This was the best chance for MU to win a conference road game.   
12.  Duane should have been in more down the stretch.   
13.  I predicted 7 conference wins.  If we are lucky. 

Norm

Carlino - just awful, especially down the stretch. He has to stop taking 3's when he is bricking them all game long.

dgies9156

Quote from: injuryBug on December 31, 2014, 06:04:28 PM
with Carlino so bad why not play Duane more he can create off the dribble much better.  
3 on 1 charge on Luke changed the game.  As a guard you only give to a big if he can finish above the rim on the break.  Derrick had 2 options over the top to Duane or take it himself

Because Matt Carlino is your senior leader. That's what you want when the chips are on the line.

Niv Berkowitz

Not only does Carlino have to hit shots, worse, if he misses some then stops taking open looks. At that point he is completely worthless out there....like today.

marquette09

Quote from: Mu2323 on December 31, 2014, 06:01:36 PM
If you lose to depaul you might as well end the season.

We lost to DePaul in 2010.   That season turned out ok

PuertoRicanNightmare

Horrible game. I do like Billy Garrett, though.

injuryBug

Quote from: dgies9156 on December 31, 2014, 06:05:21 PM
Because Matt Carlino is your senior leader. That's what you want when the chips are on the line.
Bench him for a few minutes and let him relax.  Duane would have helped he is an attacker and plays to win not to lose

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: injuryBug on December 31, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
Bench him for a few minutes and let him relax.  Duane would have helped he is an attacker and plays to win not to lose
If Carlino is not hitting shots, I think his body language changes to the point of sulking. Then the bad turnovers begin.

WellsstreetWanderer

Two possessions in a row Carlino's dribbled around until time ran down. Last time he passes to Fischer at top of key with three seconds left. No playmaker in the last few minutes. We just fumbled around

CTWarrior

To me, there is only one overriding thought.  We can't shoot.  I think we were 3-23 on 3s and terrible at the foul line.  Most of the 3s were good open looks, too.  

Other than that, we've got to swing a guy to the three point line in the corner ball side when we dump to Luke in the low post so he has an outlet for the three.

That, and Taylor has got to learn a post move or two.  A jump hook or something.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 31, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
To me, there is only one overriding thought.  We can't shoot.  I think we were 3-23 on 3s and terrible at the foul line.  Most of the 3s were good open looks, too.  

Other than that, we've got to swing a guy to the three point line in the corner ball side when we dump to Luke in the low post so he has an outlet for the three.

That, and Taylor has got to learn a post move or two.  A jump hook or something.

Maybe the most discouraging play in the game was Teve with perfect post position, pulls a drop step, clear hook opportunity... and then he opens his shoulders and has it swatted by the defender's wrist.  Kid hasn't perfected his game.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

tower912

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 31, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
To me, there is only one overriding thought.  We can't shoot.  I think we were 3-23 on 3s and terrible at the foul line.  Most of the 3s were good open looks, too.  


Yep.  Practicing free throws apparently doesn't mean much.   MU got the looks it wanted for the most part.  Luke passing opposite out of a double team, wide open look....clank.   When JJJ shot back-to-back corner 3's missing them both, I started to get that bad feeling. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

* When MU stops attacking the rim, they lose
* Will need to evolve something for the double teams Luke faces
* Juan had a pretty good game, can't think of many poor plays on his part either
* That said, I think he runs out of energy with as many minutes as he is being asked to play
* Hopefully Sandy was absent due to illness and nothing more
* Carlino needs to have the sense to stop shooting when he is ice cold.  No only did he finish 1-10 from three, at least twice he dribbled around until the shot clock was about to expire and then dumped it on a teammate who had to heave a desperation three
* Carlino didn't single-handedly lose it, but it is difficult to think of a game where one player had a larger negative impact
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

tower912

14.  This is a rebuilding year.    Accept it. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Not a Final Four team ,hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

AlumKCof93

Steve is just not good. Hope began be productive at some point, but not optimistic.
"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 31, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
To me, there is only one overriding thought.  We can't shoot.  I think we were 3-23 on 3s and terrible at the foul line.  Most of the 3s were good open looks, too.  

Other than that, we've got to swing a guy to the three point line in the corner ball side when we dump to Luke in the low post so he has an outlet for the three.

That, and Taylor has got to learn a post move or two.  A jump hook or something.

That's pretty much it. What happened here is that the team, everyone, just did not hit any open shots. It seemed like we scored all of our points picking up garbage. DePaul's confidence was shot to start the game and they looked ready to roll over for us. Once they realized we weren't going to take advantage of their total lack of defense, their confidence went way up.

If we had a slightly below-average shooting night, I believe we win this game pretty easily. IMO, it's hard to imagine that such poor shooting will continue for the entire season. We have scored a lot more points against far better competition.

mattyv1908

If DePaul can neutralize Fischer, just imagine how the quality athletic bigs throughout the league will handle him?

It's going to be a long year for MU and Luke
Shut this board down at the opening tip.  If they win, open it back up.  If they lose, keep it shut it down until the next morning.  - Sultan of Slurpery

amen426

There were plenty of things to criticize in this game tonight, but I was disappointed in the effort.

DePaul played like this was a Big East Conference game. Marquette could learn a thing or two from our opponent tonight.

On the bright side, we have 2 games in the next 6 days. So hopefully our guys don't have any time to dwell on this loss, and can get back to work.

Long season ahead. Don't overreact tonight. We will see a different team when they take the floor on Saturday.

Still expect a lot of quality wins from Marquette during the conference season. Tonight, was obviously not one of them.

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