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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
I agree. Plenty of blame to go around. These two players are not our senior pg though. He showed absolutely nothing today and might as well not even suited up.

You continue to only look at one side of the ball. Derrick's defense today was fantastic.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
?

Nothing in your post is true. Neither Gasser nor Jackson are the best defensive players in the B1G and Derrick was being face guarded.

Cmon TAMU, being face guarded lol. We must not have been watching the same game.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: ChitownJuan on December 06, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
His interior defense today was great.

He was competent defensively, far from "great".

mu-rara

Quote from: chapman on December 06, 2014, 01:57:55 PM
Twice as many defensive rebounds as last game!  2-1

Even with the chance to spend time out of the 5 spot, don't see how his minutes aren't cut significantly with Fischer entering the rotation.
He will be much better when he is on the court with Fisher.

tower912

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
At what point do we just be honest and admit he can't play?  Since UT-Martin, the guy's barely been noticeable except for bricking shots offensively.  This on a nine player team, and following a disappointing freshman season.  

Not yet.   I still think he becomes a player.   I just hope no one is still saying he should have played more last year.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Newsdreams

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CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
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Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
You continue to only look at one side of the ball. Derrick's defense today was fantastic.

Derrick's stat line today: 35 minutes, 1 pt, 1 steal, 2 assists, and 3 rebounds. Not even Gary Payton's defense, which Derrick is nowhere close to, makes up for that putrid output. I feel like I'm watching a rerun of last season and it's enough to make me want to take a break until next year.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 02:04:22 PM
Not yet.   I still think he becomes a player.   I just hope no one is still saying he should have played more last year.  

After UT Martin, I held out hope that I had been wrong all offseason about JJJ.  The seven games since have validated my opinion of him.  I wish I could share your optimism, but he's shown no reason to be optimistic.  You need much better players at this level than him.

tower912

There is going to be ample opportunity for him the rest of the year to show he belongs.  If, by the end of the season, he hasn't progressed, I will be concerned.   But I never give up.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Derrick's stat line today: 35 minutes, 1 pt, 1 steal, 2 assists, and 3 rebounds. Not even Gary Payton's defense, which Derrick is nowhere close to, makes up for that putrid output. I feel like I'm watching a rerun of last season and it's enough to make me want to take a break until next year.
That would be fantastic!

Class71

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 01:27:12 PM
1.  MU fought it's ass off, but.....
2.  Wiscy is good. 
3.  The zone is solid, but...
4.  Bo knows how to beat a zone.
5.   MU attacked, but...
6.   Wiscy contested everything in close.
7.   Not going to criticize anyone because everyone fought.
8.   Sometimes, size, skill, and experience matter.
9.   Luke is eligible the next time MU plays.  Let's hope everybody gets through finals.   
10.  NJIT beat Michigan.   

Excellent summary agree fully.
⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵

brandx

Quote from: forgetful on December 06, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
Wisconsin.  Size inside wins it for them.  

Against teams with adequate size and good guards they will lose, AKA Duke.  Duke had the bigs to match up and Jones was able to dominate them.  Other teams like Kansas, UK, Arizona, UNC, UCLA, even Mich. ST., will be able to beat them.



You do realize (?) that Duke won only because they barely missed a shot the entire game - shooting over 65%.

I will go out on a limb and say that won't happen again.

brandx

Quote from: Ellenson for an mu-rara on December 06, 2014, 01:36:46 PM
Fought their asses off.  Played D.  Gritty.

Wojo had a plan and the guys executed.  Badgers just too big and experienced.   Never happy losing to the D Bag-ders, but the future is bright.

+1

tower912

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Outrebounded 41-28.   Juan with 10.  Deonte with 0 in 11 minutes.   6-14 from 3.   Way to go, Deonte and Sandy.     Wiscy took 30 3's.  Made only 8.  Thanks.   Thought they did a poor job exploiting their interior height advantage.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: brandx on December 06, 2014, 02:20:38 PM


You do realize (?) that Duke won only because they barely missed a shot the entire game - shooting over 65%.

I will go out on a limb and say that won't happen again.

Yes, people are extrapolating way too much off one night where Duke played about as good as they can play. 

brandx

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Derrick's stat line today: 35 minutes, 1 pt, 1 steal, 2 assists, and 3 rebounds. Not even Gary Payton's defense, which Derrick is nowhere close to, makes up for that putrid output. I feel like I'm watching a rerun of last season and it's enough to make me want to take a break until next year.

See ya!

The only thing you are good at, anyway, is carrying water for Chicos.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

madtownwarrior

If only our "Caretaker PG" could
just play defense and then not drive to the basket, get fouled shooting or have his defender sag off him rendering the Marquette offense to 4 on 5.  

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
You continue to only look at one side of the ball. Derrick's defense today was fantastic.

brandx

I happen to be quite optimistic right now. A few games to go before we start the BE schedule to get Luke acclimated.

This team played the #2 ranked team today and was down by 2 with 8 minutes left. Against another high-ranked team, we were down 5 at about the same point. With no center and 1 PF on the squad!

Now we will have some size. We won't be in the situation where we have a skinny 6'6" center and 6'4" PF on the floor at times.

We can beat anyone in the BE (except maybe Villanova). I won't be surprised by 11-7.

MarquetteDano

One thing that really surprised me about the game on Marquette's defensive end is how easily we discouraged shots and drives to the basket despite being completely outsized, not just height wise but weight wise.  The Badgers played really soft for some reason.

Wisconsin is going no where if they don't get more aggressive and physical offensively.  I have a funny feeling Bo will turn that around before season's end.

On the other side of the ball was the opposite problem.  We tried too many times to take it to the teeth of the defense with size and numbers against us.

Please let one of the newcomers next season have a nice midrange/pull-up game.  Anyone who could have done that today would have had 15+ points today easy.  I was hoping Deonte would do it but played only 11 minutes.  I guess his zone d just isn't there yet.

forgetful

Quote from: brandx on December 06, 2014, 02:20:38 PM


You do realize (?) that Duke won only because they barely missed a shot the entire game - shooting over 65%.

I will go out on a limb and say that won't happen again.

Would you say the same thing about our losses to Ohio State and Michigan St, that they only won because they barely missed a shot the entire game?

No, why?  Our weaknesses allowed them to do that.  Similarly, UW's weaknesses allowed Duke to dominate on the Offensive end.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: brandx on December 06, 2014, 02:32:10 PM
I won't be surprised by 11-7.

I'd be almost shocked to be 11-7 in conference.  But, I'll say this, Wojo can coach, he prepares his team well, and makes sound in-game decisions and adjustments, so maybe we can scratch and claw our way to .500 or better in conference, especially with Fischer on board going forward.

brandx

Quote from: forgetful on December 06, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
Would you say the same thing about our losses to Ohio State and Michigan St, that they only won because they barely missed a shot the entire game?

No, why?  Our weaknesses allowed them to do that.  Similarly, UW's weaknesses allowed Duke to dominate on the Offensive end.

No! No one else will shoot 65%+ against UW this season.

And we have given up good shooting games because we don't have guys who can play man-to-man defense.

You obviously didn't watch the UW-Duke game. Unlike OSU where it was a layup drill against us, Duke hit shots from all over the floor.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Fans have very short attention spans. I'm happy about today's loss. Never good to lose to the Badgers, but we played them tough. Can't wait to get Luke into the fold.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 01:36:11 PM
Here's an analysis. Our senior PG is terrible and bogs down our offense considerably. 0-5 on field goal attempts and every one of them was a drive to the hoop. Just brutal

Here's an analysis of your analysis:!inaccurate. Derrick's 0-5 wasn't all on drives, it included a missed 3. If you're going to rip one of our guys the least you might want to do is watch the game and get your facts right.

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