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nyg

Just thought that MU's offense was Dwil dribbling at the top of the key for 20 seconds, then pass to someone who would drive to the basket.  MU threw up some circus shots that were terrible and Wisky blocked 6 others.  Didn't understand why they continued to do that the entire game.  Maybe trying to get the bigs in foul trouble, but didn't work out that way and still stayed with that strategy.  Guess Wojo had a plan and sometimes it just doesn't pan out.

Nevada233

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 06, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
If Dawson transfers, will you stop posting?

You bring a lot to this board, granted. But every now and then you post things like this. With no provocation. And many other problems with many players today.

Done Deal!

79Warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
And our 5 top 100 recruits (plus the 1 non-top 100 recruit) over the past 3 classes scored a combined 16 points.  So what's your point?  You're not very intelligent, are you?

No kidding . JJJ was Top 35 and he still looks lost. no wonder Buzz planted his ass on the bench.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

My biggest frustration for the game was Juan's offense. He would have a wide open look from three or mid-range...and then dribble it five times at Kaminsky, pick up his dribble, pivot a few times, and then pass it out. Kid is shooting 45% from three, he needs to take the open shots, especially when a rim defender like Kaminsky is waiting for him. Maybe he thinks Buzz is still here and he needs a paint touch before shooting?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


PGsHeroes32

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 03:25:37 PM
My biggest frustration for the game was Juan's offense. He would have a wide open look from three or mid-range...and then dribble it five times at Kaminsky, pick up his dribble, pivot a few times, and then pass it out. Kid is shooting 45% from three, he needs to take the open shots, especially when a rim defender like Kaminsky is waiting for him. Maybe he thinks Buzz is still here and he needs a paint touch before shooting?

Yeah Juan is still pretty frustrating at times. It's almost like he thinks he's still a role player and him shooting is not what were looking for. But this year in this offense he needs to shoot.

Also, dudes gotta make his free throws.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Stretchdeltsig

We have to shoot better period.

connie

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 01:27:12 PM
1.  MU fought it's ass off, but.....
2.  Wiscy is good. 
I agree we fought the good fight today, but Wisconsin looked pedestrian at best.  Really didn't think they had much drive or emotion today.  I, as well, thought we were in for a 20 point crushing.  Glad that our guys played hard.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

HutchwasClutch

#82
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 03:31:23 PM
Yeah Juan is still pretty frustrating at times. It's almost like he thinks he's still a role player and him shooting is not what were looking for. But this year in this offense he needs to shoot.

Also, dudes gotta make his free throws.

Juan is most certainly a role player, and we shouldn't look for him to put up many shots each game - he's best being a high energy guy on the glass and defense, and taking an occasional shot when it's there.  He's never scored much before in his MU career, he's perimeter shooting has stunk for three plus years now.  But now you and TAMU Eagle expect him to suddenly morph into this scorer for us?  Not going to happen!!

This team needs guys like Burton, Taylor, Duane Wilson, and hopefully FIscher now that he's in the mix scoring.  Those guys have shown a real ability on the offensive end.  They're the ones that need to give Carlino support offensively.  I'd include JaJuan in that group too, but he's a lost cause.  

Texas Western

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 01:27:12 PM
1.  MU fought it's ass off, but.....
2.  Wiscy is good. 
3.  The zone is solid, but...
4.  Bo knows how to beat a zone.
5.   MU attacked, but...
6.   Wiscy contested everything in close.
7.   Not going to criticize anyone because everyone fought.
8.   Sometimes, size, skill, and experience matter.
9.   Luke is eligible the next time MU plays.  Let's hope everybody gets through finals.   
10.  NJIT beat Michigan.   
A game like today is a little bit like playing the US Open in golf. It is a test that will expose your weaknesses .  We fought hard yes , but we made a lot of bogeys and had very few birdies .

We have 4 games to get use to having Luke in the lineup. I am hoping that he is able to open things up for the likes of JJJ and Deonte.

Derrick should have been taken out of the game the last five minutes . It would have been worth seeing if someone else could get hot from 3 point range.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Texas Western on December 06, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
A game like today is a little bit like playing the US Open in golf. It is a test that will expose your weaknesses .  We fought hard yes , but we made a lot of bogeys and had very few birdies .

We have 4 games to get use to having Luke in the lineup. I am hoping that he is able to open things up for the likes of JJJ and Deonte.

Derrick should have been taken out of the game the last five minutes . It would have been worth seeing if someone else could get hot from 3 point range.

JaJuan, yeah, right, maybe Fischer will open up more bricks for him to chuck up!

tower912

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2014, 03:37:56 PM


This team needs guys like Burton, Taylor, Duane Wilson, and hopefully FIscher now that he's in the mix scoring.  Those guys have shown a real ability on the offensive end.  They're the ones that need to give Carlino support offensively.  I'd include JaJuan in that group too, but he's a lost cause.  
The problem is twofold.  1.  They have shown a real liability on the defensive end and reboundng.   2.  None of them have shown any consistency.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Texas Western

Quote from: Nevada233 on December 06, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
Our All American PG #12 scored 1 point......

Sheesh.
We are going nowhere if he keeps playing max minutes.  Would rather see 10-15 of intense play as a back up.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 03:44:13 PM
The problem is twofold.  1.  They have shown a real liability on the defensive end and reboundng.   2.  None of them have shown any consistency.  

Agree, but what are Wojo's options this year?  This is the mostly crappy hand he's been dealt by his predecessor.

tower912

He is choosing the Derrick option.   For the same reasons Buzz did.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2014, 03:37:56 PM
Juan is most certainly a role player, and we shouldn't look for him to put up many shots each game - he's best being a high energy guy on the glass and defense, and taking an occasional shot when it's there.  He's never scored much before in his MU career, he's perimeter shooting has stunk for three plus years now.  But now you and TAMU Eagle expect him to suddenly morph into this scorer for us?  Not going to happen!!

This team needs guys like Burton, Taylor, Duane Wilson, and hopefully FIscher now that he's in the mix scoring.  Those guys have shown a real ability on the offensive end.  They're the ones that need to give Carlino support offensively.  I'd include JaJuan in that group too, but he's a lost cause.  

...You are aware that Juan is leading us in 3P% right? You also know he's also made the third most 3Ps on the team right? Juan can shoot the three. I'm not saying he should launch 5 a game. But if he's open, take the shot.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


HutchwasClutch

#90
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
...You are aware that Juan is leading us in 3P% right? You also know he's also made the third most 3Ps on the team right? Juan can shoot the three. I'm not saying he should launch 5 a game. But if he's open, take the shot.

He's attempted all of 11 threes on the year for God sake!!  He's 22 for 79 for his career, a whopping 27%.  If he's open, and if score and momentum are favorable, sure, put it up there Juan.  Otherwise, the more he shoots out there, he'll just be coming back to the mean.   He is what he is, and that is a marginal offensive player, but a solid energy guy.  I believe 10 boards for him today.  Play to your strengths for crying out loud.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 06, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
He's attempted all of 11 threes on the year for God sake!!  He's 22 for 79 for his career, a whopping 27%.  If he's open, and if score and momentum are favorable, sure, put it up there Juan.  Otherwise, the more he shoots out there, he'll just be coming back to the mean.   He is what he is, and that is a marginal offensive player, but a solid energy guy.  I believe 10 boards for him today.  Play to your strengths for crying out loud.

Juan is 6-13 this season. Do you not believe in player development? All indications so far are that he has improved his outside shooting. He went 1-2 from three today. That's a lot better than his dribble straight at Kaminsky, pivot a few times, and pass strategy.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


HutchwasClutch

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2014, 04:02:52 PM
Juan is 6-13 this season. Do you not believe in player development? All indications so far are that he has improved his outside shooting. He went 1-2 from three today. That's a lot better than his dribble straight at Kaminsky, pivot a few times, and pass strategy.

I agree his dribble drives at Kaminsky weren't working.  And yes, I believe in player development.

You think a guy in his senior season though, who's been crap offensively his first three full seasons in college, is all of a sudden going to change spots this year and become a dependable scording threat?  Yeah, it's happened before, but the odds are high against it happening.  Let's be realistic and not dreamers about him.

I'll hold out hope for guys like Burton, Taylor, Duane Wilson, maybe FIscher, to step up and give scoring punch help to Carlino over Anderson any day.

tower912

#93
Juan is fine.   He is only taking wide open 3's and is trying to attack.   I started to say that Juan is not the problem but that implies that there IS a problem.    This is a young, small, inexperienced, not deep team.  There is no getting around that.  They have competed hard in every game.   As of right now, as long as they are doing that and working to get better, none of us have any reason to complain.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
I agree. Plenty of blame to go around. These two players are not our senior pg though. He showed absolutely nothing today and might as well not even suited up.


Ners' logged in with his alternate account today huh?

GGGG

You play that game 100 times, the result would be similar about 70 of them. 

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 06, 2014, 04:36:04 PM

Ners' logged in with his alternate account today huh?

Come on Scoop Stalker. Clearly being on here for 18 hours a day, you can tell that this is untrue. You might have to step your game up to 20 hours a day.

GGGG

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 06, 2014, 04:52:42 PM
Come on Scoop Stalker. Clearly being on here for 18 hours a day, you can tell that this is untrue. You might have to step your game up to 20 hours a day.


I hadn't posted for over 24 hours.  Perhaps switching between accounts caused you to enter a time warp of some sort.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 06, 2014, 04:54:45 PM

I hadn't posted for over 24 hours.  Perhaps switching between accounts caused you to enter a time warp of some sort.

24 whole hours? Wow, you must have been sweating, shaking, and feeling nauseous? I am impressed that you were able to get away for that long  ;D

Nevada233

#99
Quote from: Texas Western on December 06, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
We are going nowhere if he keeps playing max minutes.  Would rather see 10-15 of intense play as a back up.

Agreed, people keep talking about his defense defense defense...... Please his offense and non requirement of a defender stops us from scoring more than any opponent.

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