Jamail Jones

[Jables1604]

Just saw that Jamail had 16 in Florida Gulf Coast's win over UCSB tonight.

[PGsHeroes32]

He had 17 in their first game too

[Texas Western]

Glad to see him doing well. I know he still has a lot of close ties to Marquette.

[WarriorFan]

I always thought he could be a good scorer.  Wish him well.

[Pakuni]

On a sorta related note, Jamal Ferguson is averaging 12 points, 3.5 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game (through only two games) so far this year at NC Central.

[Ari Gold]

On a sorta related note, Jamal Ferguson is averaging 12 points, 3.5 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game (through only two games) so far this year at NC Central.

One of those games was vs the College of Faith Warriors of the NCCAA

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I notice Jamail hasn't played in a few weeks. Guessing he is injured??

[Nukem2]

I notice Jamail hasn't played in a few weeks. Guessing he is injured??

He was suspended for the 2nd time this season.  Was suspended for the first 3 games and is now serving a 6 game suspension.  Violation of team rules.

[reinko]

He was suspended for the 2nd time this season.  Was suspended for the first 3 games and is now serving a 6 game suspension.  Violation of team rules.

Derrick's fault I imagine.

[MU82]

Derrick's fault I imagine.

Nope -- squirmy Buzz's fault!

[wadesworld]

Interesting that Bert's high school recruits rarely lived up to their hype coming out of high school, but those that did transfer (because, we thought, they couldn't cut it at the high major level) seem to go to smaller schools but do really well.  Talk about a lack of player development.  Bert had his most success with players that were already developed (JUCOs), with some exceptions (Gardner, for example).

[Tugg Speedman]

He was suspended for the 2nd time this season.  Was suspended for the first 3 games and is now serving a 6 game suspension.  Violation of team rules.

But he did not mean it in a negative way.

[T-Bone]

Looks like he should be eligible for their conference opener against the The Fighting Hats of Stetson.

http://www.news-press.com/story/sports/college/fgcu/2014/12/19/basketball-fgcu-senior-jamail-jones-suspended/20669463/

[GGGG]

Interesting that Bert's high school recruits rarely lived up to their hype coming out of high school, but those that did transfer (because, we thought, they couldn't cut it at the high major level) seem to go to smaller schools but do really well.  Talk about a lack of player development.  Bert had his most success with players that were already developed (JUCOs), with some exceptions (Gardner, for example).

So what high school players did Buzz have that transferred?

Jeronne Maymon - parental disaster
Yous Mbao - sucked at Marshall
Jamail Jones - averaging 11 ppg at FGCU but apparently not a good teammate.
Jamal Ferguson - averaging 4 ppg at NCCU

Am I missing anyone here?  Regardless, which one of these players is doing "really well?"  I would argue one - Jeronne Maymon.  And how much of that do you attribute to Buzz's lack of player development versus simply being at a lower level that fits their abilities more?

[MerrittsMustache]

So what high school players did Buzz have that transferred?

Jeronne Maymon - parental disaster
Yous Mbao - sucked at Marshall
Jamail Jones - averaging 11 ppg at FGCU but apparently not a good teammate.
Jamal Ferguson - averaging 4 ppg at NCCU

Am I missing anyone here?  Regardless, which one of these players is doing "really well?"  I would argue one - Jeronne Maymon.  And how much of that do you attribute to Buzz's lack of player development versus simply being at a lower level that fits their abilities more?

If only MU had Ferguson's 4ppg, they would have beat DePaul on NYE! That loss is on Buzz.

[Nukem2]

So what high school players did Buzz have that transferred?

Jeronne Maymon - parental disaster
Yous Mbao - sucked at Marshall
Jamail Jones - averaging 11 ppg at FGCU but apparently not a good teammate.
Jamal Ferguson - averaging 4 ppg at NCCU

Am I missing anyone here?  Regardless, which one of these players is doing "really well?"  I would argue one - Jeronne Maymon.  And how much of that do you attribute to Buzz's lack of player development versus simply being at a lower level that fits their abilities more?

Erik Williams who was a disaster at Sam Houston State and Brett Roseboro who had a non-descript career at 2 schools.  Of course, Brett was not really a transfer because he never was a full-time student after bailing out following summer school.

[GGGG]

Erik Williams who was a disaster at Sam Houston State and Brett Roseboro who had a non-descript career at 2 schools.  Of course, Brett was not really a transfer because he never was a full-time student after bailing out following summer school.

Thanks.  I knew I was missing one or two because the scholarship table didn't go far enough back.  So I can't see any player that meets wade's initial statement of going to a "smaller school and doing really well."

If Buzz can be faulted for anything, it's that he had way too many recruiting "misses" from the high school ranks.

So let's see if I have this right...

*2 never made it to campus (Newbill, Durley)
*7 transferred out under Buzz (Roseboro, Smith, Williams, Jones, Maymon, Mbao, Ferguson)
*2 transferred out under Wojo (Dawson, Deonte)
*2 left for pros (Blue, Mayo)
*3 graduated (Junior, Otule, Gardner)
*6 still with the program (Taylor, Johnson, Duane, Sandy, Juan, Derrick)

So of the 22 high school players signed by Buzz Williams, at best only 9 will graduate with degrees from Marquette.  (Assuming Vander and Todd (HA!) don't come back to finish up.)

Unless I am missing some, that is pretty lame.

[79Warrior]

Just saw that Jamail had 16 in Florida Gulf Coast's win over UCSB tonight.

Not sure what you are smoking but FGCU lost and Jones is not in the box score as having played.

[w0bbie]

*5 transferred out under Buzz (Williams, Jones, Maymon, Mbao, Ferguson)

Reggie Smith is another.  Transferred to UNLV (?) and did nothing noteworthy.

[bilsu]

Also Reggie Smith and Newbill. There was a big center form Texas that also got dropped.

[MU Buff]

Not sure what you are smoking but FGCU lost and Jones is not in the box score as having played.

That post is from Nov 17. Florida Gulf Coast played UCSB twice this year.

[GGGG]

Also Reggie Smith and Newbill. There was a big center form Texas that also got dropped.

I forgot Reggie Smith.  I included Newbill and Durley.

[MU B2002]

Thanks.  I knew I was missing one or two because the scholarship table didn't go far enough back.  So I can't see any player that meets wade's initial statement of going to a "smaller school and doing really well."

If Buzz can be faulted for anything, it's that he had way too many recruiting "misses" from the high school ranks.

So let's see if I have this right...

*3 signees had offers pulled (Roseboro, Newbill, Durley)
*6 transferred out under Buzz (Smith, Williams, Jones, Maymon, Mbao, Ferguson)
*2 transferred out under Wojo (Dawson, Deonte)
*2 left for pros (Blue, Mayo)
*3 graduated (Junior, Otule, Gardner)
*6 still with the program (Taylor, Johnson, Duane, Sandy, Juan, Derrick)

So of the 22 high school players signed by Buzz Williams, at best only 9 will graduate with degrees from Marquette.  (Assuming Vander and Todd (HA!) don't come back to finish up.)

Unless I am missing some, that is pretty lame.

Wow, when you list it all in one spot it does look bad.

Bleh.

[79Warrior]

That post is from Nov 17. Florida Gulf Coast played UCSB twice this year.

Thx. Missed that.

[connie]

Thanks.  I knew I was missing one or two because the scholarship table didn't go far enough back.  So I can't see any player that meets wade's initial statement of going to a "smaller school and doing really well."

If Buzz can be faulted for anything, it's that he had way too many recruiting "misses" from the high school ranks.

So let's see if I have this right...

*3 signees had offers pulled (Roseboro, Newbill, Durley)
*6 transferred out under Buzz (Smith, Williams, Jones, Maymon, Mbao, Ferguson)
*2 transferred out under Wojo (Dawson, Deonte)
*2 left for pros (Blue, Mayo)
*3 graduated (Junior, Otule, Gardner)
*6 still with the program (Taylor, Johnson, Duane, Sandy, Juan, Derrick)

So of the 22 high school players signed by Buzz Williams, at best only 9 will graduate with degrees from Marquette.  (Assuming Vander and Todd (HA!) don't come back to finish up.)

Unless I am missing some, that is pretty lame.

Boy that looks bad.  Don't know if it is fair to include in any ciphering those that never enlisted, but that still looks bad.