UWM Arena is there an out in the lease to tear it down?

[MUfan12]

From this summer... it sounds like both sides have an out if the arena gets knocked down.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/265537621.html

[Litehouse]

I struggle to see how the Sprint Center in KC offers much more than the BC to an NBA team.  Maybe there's an ownership group in KC that would overpay to move the Bucks there, and the temporary excitement would draw more fans, but otherwise it just seemed like a newer version of the BC.  I could understand Louisville's arena offering more, or the new place in Vegas and the dreamed up arena plans in Seattle, but the Sprint Center didn't seem like it offered more revenue generating opportunities than the BC when I was there for the CBE a few years ago.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

They can't play in the BC? An 85% empty arena versus a 70% empty arena?

[Aughnanure]

I struggle to see how the Sprint Center in KC offers much more than the BC to an NBA team.  Maybe there's an ownership group in KC that would overpay to move the Bucks there, and the temporary excitement would draw more fans, but otherwise it just seemed like a newer version of the BC.  I could understand Louisville's arena offering more, or the new place in Vegas and the dreamed up arena plans in Seattle, but the Sprint Center didn't seem like it offered more revenue generating opportunities than the BC when I was there for the CBE a few years ago.

What are you talking about? It's a much better arena than the Bradley, so much better. You don't notice the revenue generating opportunities because they're things like expanded club seats.

Regardless, it isn't going to be KC. KC's chance was the move from Seattle that went to Oklahoma City because the owner is an OK native.

[Litehouse]

That's a fair point. I wasn't on the club level, just sitting behind the basket on the lower level.

[MUfan12]

That's a fair point. I wasn't on the club level, just sitting behind the basket on the lower level.

Club level is great, and the lower bowl dwarfs the upper level. More revenue to be had with those seats. It's a really nice venue.

[Litehouse]

That's true too, the lower level there was much larger than the BC.  Thanks for enlightening me, back to bashing UWM...

They still haven't even sold out their home game against Madison.  I just checked and tickets are still available.

[Aughnanure]

That's true too, the lower level there was much larger than the BC.  Thanks for enlightening me, back to bashing UWM...

Yeah man, they suck right?

[Galway Eagle]

My favorite line on that UWM forum was that guy who said we were scared because UWM is a sleeping giant that's waking up since they have made 4 ncaa appearances now.

[MUMonster03]

My favorite line on that UWM forum was that guy who said we were scared because UWM is a sleeping giant that's waking up since they have made 4 ncaa appearances now.

My favorite part was the listing of NIT appearances on their header. "A sleeping giant" doesn't list NIT or first round (still don't agree with round of 64 being second round) tournament exits.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Truthfully, does MU have ANY influence on this whole arena issue?

If I'm looking at it objectively, I really doubt that they do.

This is about NBA $ and politics.

MU might get asked "Do you like this idea?", but I have a feeling it's more of a courtesy than an actual partnership with the Bucks.

[MUMonster03]

Truthfully, does MU have ANY influence on this whole arena issue?

If I'm looking at it objectively, I really doubt that they do.

This is about NBA $ and politics.

MU might get asked "Do you like this idea?", but I have a feeling it's more of a courtesy than an actual partnership with the Bucks.

I'm sure we will chip in some small amount of money and have input into our locker room design, placement, and other amenities to make it actually feel like our home arena but I doubt we will have much say in what site they select to build it.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm sure we will chip in some small amount of money and have input into our locker room design, placement, and other amenities to make it actually feel like our home arena but I doubt we will have much say in what site they select to build it.

oh, well yes, I suppose MU will be involved a little in the design.

I guess I'm talking "big picture" stuff.

The UWM message board implies that somehow MU is behind the scenes participating in this whole new arena plan. I suspect MU has very little influence on this situation.

Ironically, I think the UWM guys are overrating MU's influence and power.

[kmwtrucks]

Naming rights of 300K to 350K. and rental of 10-15K per game when you include the tickets fee.  If MKE holds up the stadium because of that REV then they are idiots.  Gimble is probably just saying that so if its possible to get a 2nd stadium out of the bucks owners better to ask for it now.   With what UWM pays you are talking about about 500K in REV per year.  How can anybody justify spending 50 mil on new 8000 stadium that generates 500K in rent. 

[Galway Eagle]

Truthfully, does MU have ANY influence on this whole arena issue?

If I'm looking at it objectively, I really doubt that they do.

This is about NBA $ and politics.

MU might get asked "Do you like this idea?", but I have a feeling it's more of a courtesy than an actual partnership with the Bucks.

I'm sure we do.  I doubt it'll be very public but between dick strong and the university's commitment to Bball im sure we'll have plenty of say behind the scenes while letting this be the Bucks big project publicly.

[Groin_pull]

Naming rights of 300K to 350K. and rental of 10-15K per game when you include the tickets fee.  If MKE holds up the stadium because of that REV then they are idiots.  Gimble is probably just saying that so if its possible to get a 2nd stadium out of the bucks owners better to ask for it now.   With what UWM pays you are talking about about 500K in REV per year.  How can anybody justify spending 50 mil on new 8000 stadium that generates 500K in rent. 

Why would the new Bucks owners agree to build UWM a new arena? At some point, these NYC billionaires will say..."Screw this, we've tried to make it work here in Mayberry. Let's start working the NBA so we can keep the team and move it somewhere else."

[Aughnanure]

Fran's taking it pretty well over there:

"You can't "value your relationship" and simultaneously gut our program and thwart our institution. The Bucks are on notice; if they decide to move ahead to try to destroy the Panther Arena, every stakeholder in the University needs to "value" his or her relationship with the Bucks in EXACTLY the same way -- by doing everything possible to make them fail in every way possible."

http://uwmfreak.proboards.com/thread/6739/chancellor-steps-defend-panther-arena?page=8

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Im selfish. I couldnt care less if the Cell is torn down. But obviously, im slightly biased.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm sure we do.  I doubt it'll be very public but between dick strong and the university's commitment to Bball im sure we'll have plenty of say behind the scenes while letting this be the Bucks big project publicly.

Why?

Is MU going to contribute significant cash? If they are, then yes, MU will have some say.

If not, MU is waaaaay down the list of contributing opinions.

[Groin_pull]

Fran's taking it pretty well over there:

"You can't "value your relationship" and simultaneously gut our program and thwart our institution. The Bucks are on notice; if they decide to move ahead to try to destroy the Panther Arena, every stakeholder in the University needs to "value" his or her relationship with the Bucks in EXACTLY the same way -- by doing everything possible to make them fail in every way possible."

http://uwmfreak.proboards.com/thread/6739/chancellor-steps-defend-panther-arena?page=8

Wow. That's tough talk for a fan base that could fit in a phone booth.

[MUfan12]

Fran's taking it pretty well over there:

"You can't "value your relationship" and simultaneously gut our program and thwart our institution. The Bucks are on notice; if they decide to move ahead to try to destroy the Panther Arena, every stakeholder in the University needs to "value" his or her relationship with the Bucks in EXACTLY the same way -- by doing everything possible to make them fail in every way possible."

http://uwmfreak.proboards.com/thread/6739/chancellor-steps-defend-panther-arena?page=8

This is entertaining as hell.

[Spotcheck Billy]

from an article Sept. 25:

In June, UWM signed a 10-year partnership with the Wisconsin Center District that included the renaming of the arena. The university has an opt-out clause should community leaders selected the site for a new arena.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/gimbel-calls-new-arena-proposal-unworkable-b99359051z1-277076421.html

[Warrior of Law]

Were there any pictures of the student protest about tearing down the Arena? 

Total attendance, per the boxscore: 1,917

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400597795

I'm not a mathmetician, but that crowd looks closer to 191.7 than 1,917.  As mentioned before, UWM left the Arena two years ago, now it suddenly has transformed into some sacred land??  Just give them 2 home games at the new place and call it even.

[Litehouse]

Protest is schedule for tomorrow night before the UWM-IUPUI game, not last night.  I look forward to the coverage on the 10:00 news.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I don't blame them for being pissed off.

We would be pissed off too.

But, they also shouldn't project/contort/twist themselves into all sorts of knots trying to climb the moral high ground on how everybody is out to screw UWM.

This is $. Period.

Nobody is out to screw UWM, but right now, they don't generate much revenue, so they aren't a priority.

Maybe the new arena could take Bucks/MU/Admirals/UWM. But, UWM might be last in the pecking order unless they can draw more than the Admirals, or if they are willing to pay a significant premium to rent the building.