What does it mean to be over one scholarship?

[iammartino]

What are the ramifications of being "over" a scholarship? If James does not leave...what happens?

[downtown85]

maybe somebody can creat a poll. 

If James doesn't leave, how does Marquette manage to stay under the scholarship limit.

a)  somebody transfers
b)  one of the new recruits is declared academically ineligible
c)  one of the  current players is declared academically ineligible
d)  somebody else goes pro
e)  something else which is none of the above

I don't know how to start a poll.  It probably isn't worth it at this point since we have the season to watch and this won't become an issue until June when DJ needs to declare or not.  We should have a good idea by springtime whether he is ready to make the leap into NBA draft (which this year seems crowded with point guards). 

[MarquetteDano]

Okay, I know I posted a similar comment on another thread, but am I the only person bothered by this?  Do other schools do it?  Sure.  Will James probably be gone one way or another?  Sure.  Are recruits warned ahead of time that if James leaves someone may be left out?  Possibly.

Neverthless, I think it can create a perception of impropriety.  I am not saying Crean and Co. are doing anything shady, but why create a situation where people question this?  Is it really worth that extra schollie?

- Dano'

[Ready2Fly]

If it means being able to bring in Otule, who just logged 16 points, 14 boards and 10 blocks in his first game this year, then yes, it's worth the extra scholarship.

[mwbauer7]

If it means being able to bring in Otule, who just logged 16 points, 14 boards and 10 blocks in his first game this year, then yes, it's worth the extra scholarship.

REP!

[mu_hilltopper]

James' first 3 outings have been workman-like and decent .. Certainly, TC has more options at the 1 and 2, so DJ is playing a bit less.

If this were to continue, and DJ doesn't have a dozen great NBA-type games (out of 30+, mind you) .. how could he try the NBA again?  Would he really pass up another year at MU for Europe? -- And he used up his mulligan with this summer's draft declaration and withdrawal.  Next time he does it, he can't come back.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Okay, I know I posted a similar comment on another thread, but am I the only person bothered by this?  Do other schools do it?  Sure.  Will James probably be gone one way or another?  Sure.  Are recruits warned ahead of time that if James leaves someone may be left out?  Possibly.

Neverthless, I think it can create a perception of impropriety.  I am not saying Crean and Co. are doing anything shady, but why create a situation where people question this?  Is it really worth that extra schollie?

- Dano'

How could recruits NOT BE WARNED AHEAD OF TIME?  It's a just a matter of counting isn't it?  Of course they know about it, as do their parents, etc.

The problem is in today's world of college athletics that schools where players jump early into the NBA are at a disadvantage because if you're not allowed to over-recruit then even if you know 100% for sure that one of your guys is going to leave early the following year, you may not be able to replace him until two years later.

Catch 22.

If MU was being underhanded about, then that would be one thing but how on earth would the recruits and their families not know?  It's simply a matter of elementary mathematics that we're over one spot.  I'd wager 99% chance DJ is leaving after this year one way or another (Europe or NBA or NBDL or whatever...he graduates, wants to pursue that dream).....if not I would not want my son to sign up with the program without knowing with a practical certainty that a spot was there for him next year as a new recruit.

[Eye]

Isn't the reason this is even an option the 2001 Arizona team which lost in the title game to Duke? They lost Jefferson, Michael Wright and Arenas to early entry, and Gardner pulled a DJ and threw his name in before deciding to come back, so with the 5-in-one-year, 8-in-two-years scholarship limitations, they couldn't fill all the available scholarships the next year.