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Author Topic: Historical Mascot Question  (Read 11851 times)

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Historical Mascot Question
« on: September 26, 2014, 07:48:14 PM »
For reasons too boring to explain, I'm working on a project that requires me to use depictions of the mascots from certain schools between 1948 - 1952.  Pretty exact, huh? The Marquette mascot has been a huge sticking point for me. My research shows that the first physical mascot at any sporting event was Chief White Buck in 1954.

So am I right to assume that during the era that the Marquette teams were called the Hilltoppers and Golden Avalanche respectively, there was NEVER a physical mascot at any game? No sharply dressed dogs? Pigs? Goats?

I'm almost certain that there wasn't. It's not listed in any yearbook I've gone through or article I've seen.

I just thought I'd ask you guys, the experts.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2014, 07:54:21 PM by anubis266 »

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Re: Historical Mascot Question
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 08:06:18 PM »

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Re: Historical Mascot Question
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2014, 08:08:51 PM »
Ha! Well played

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2014, 08:27:26 PM »
For reasons too boring to explain, I'm working on a project that requires me to use depictions of the mascots from certain schools between 1948 - 1952.  Pretty exact, huh? The Marquette mascot has been a huge sticking point for me. My research shows that the first physical mascot at any sporting event was Chief White Buck in 1954.

So am I right to assume that during the era that the Marquette teams were called the Hilltoppers and Golden Avalanche respectively, there was NEVER a physical mascot at any game? No sharply dressed dogs? Pigs? Goats?

I'm almost certain that there wasn't. It's not listed in any yearbook I've gone through or article I've seen.

I just thought I'd ask you guys, the experts.

"Chief White Buck"? Now that is racist, discriminatory, classless, not PC, and obviously rooted in bigotry. Just like Redskins, Seminoles, Warriors, Blackhawks, Chiefs, Braves, etc.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

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Re: Historical Mascot Question
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 08:28:32 PM »

Where the hell did you get this picture of Dukiet, Chicos?
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Re: Historical Mascot Question
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 08:31:56 PM »
There was only one real mascot, aina?
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 08:35:32 PM »
"Chief White Buck"? Now that is racist, discriminatory, classless, not PC, and obviously rooted in bigotry. Just like Redskins, Seminoles, Warriors, Blackhawks, Chiefs, Braves, etc.

Maybe Google will outlaw the ability to search for some of those terms.  Book burnings can't be too far behind.

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 11:44:53 PM »
Maybe Google will outlaw the ability to search for some of those terms.  Book burnings can't be too far behind.


So fcc getting a request to ban redskin from network television = book burnings. We're you also one of those people who thought gay marriage would lead to legalizing beastiality and pedophilia?
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2014, 06:10:39 AM »
4ever

And might have been best mascot ever.

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So fcc getting a request to ban redskin from network television = book burnings. We're you also one of those people who thought gay marriage would lead to legalizing beastiality and pedophilia?
I thought that is already afoot. I heard of a lawsuit in one state, probably California, where a guy wanted to marry his horse. The slippery slope has already been slipping. Reminds one of an old Little Richard song. On Specialty Records, of course.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2014, 08:37:49 AM »
A good friend of mine was the mascot around when I was there around the turn of the century.
I never got a free pizza represented by an empty box out of it though.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2014, 01:09:29 PM »
I thought that is already afoot. I heard of a lawsuit in one state, probably California, where a guy wanted to marry his horse. The slippery slope has already been slipping. Reminds one of an old Little Richard song. On Specialty Records, of course.

It was Missouri and the courts wouldn't even let him file his case. Real slippery
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2014, 03:42:00 PM »
It was Missouri and the courts wouldn't even let him file his case. Real slippery


LOL.  willie must not have heard *that* talking point.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2014, 07:04:05 PM »

LOL.  willie must not have heard *that* talking point.
Yeah, but it is coming. If you don't believe that you are not paying attention.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2014, 07:50:20 PM »


So fcc getting a request to ban redskin from network television = book burnings. We're you also one of those people who thought gay marriage would lead to legalizing beastiality and pedophilia?

My post had nothing to do with the FCC and certainly nothing to do with the rest of your post. 

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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2014, 11:11:32 PM »
In all honesty, you need to refer to old yearbooks in MU's online archives.

You may see some pics of mascots drawn or "live on field/court" in them.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2014, 12:10:47 AM »
My post had nothing to do with the FCC and certainly nothing to do with the rest of your post. 

Uh huh
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 07:48:14 PM »


So fcc getting a request to ban redskin from network television = book burnings. We're you also one of those people who thought gay marriage would lead to legalizing beastiality and pedophilia?

either stretching it out a little or trolling?  don't take the bait chico!
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2014, 07:49:51 PM »
either stretching it out a little or trolling?  don't take the bait chico!

I'm not. 

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 08:05:01 PM »
For reasons too boring to explain, I'm working on a project that requires me to use depictions of the mascots from certain schools between 1948 - 1952.  Pretty exact, huh? The Marquette mascot has been a huge sticking point for me. My research shows that the first physical mascot at any sporting event was Chief White Buck in 1954.

So am I right to assume that during the era that the Marquette teams were called the Hilltoppers and Golden Avalanche respectively, there was NEVER a physical mascot at any game? No sharply dressed dogs? Pigs? Goats?

I'm almost certain that there wasn't. It's not listed in any yearbook I've gone through or article I've seen.

I just thought I'd ask you guys, the experts.


You said it was boring an all, but why 1948 to 1952 as your time frame of study?   As to your question, my understanding is Golden Avalanche was the football team nickname for a certain period of years, basically starting in 1937.  Other teams used Hilltoppers. I don't know when Golden Avalanche went out of vogue, was it 1954 when we became the Warriors or was it sooner and the Hilltoppers was just used across the board?

Have you seen this article?
http://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=hist_4101_5101


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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2014, 09:16:39 AM »
Yeah, but it is coming. If you don't believe that you are not paying attention.

To Rush Limbaugh or real news?
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2014, 09:26:08 AM »
To Rush Limbaugh or real news?
And just what is Real news? CNN or MSNBC?
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2014, 09:47:04 AM »
And just what is Real news? CNN or MSNBC?

Oh wow, willie, wow. You go have fun living in your right-wing talk radio bubble that has no grasp on reality.
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2014, 10:13:19 AM »
You said it was boring an all, but why 1948 to 1952 as your time frame of study?   As to your question, my understanding is Golden Avalanche was the football team nickname for a certain period of years, basically starting in 1937.  Other teams used Hilltoppers. I don't know when Golden Avalanche went out of vogue, was it 1954 when we became the Warriors or was it sooner and the Hilltoppers was just used across the board?

Have you seen this article?
http://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=hist_4101_5101



It took 19 posts about a lot of other hooey, but finally a definitive answer!  Awesome Chicos.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2014, 10:21:33 AM »
Man, November can't get here fast enough for this board.  Even I was surprised how quickly this thread went off the rails given that it was mascot/nickname related. 

Great thing about this board, never know exactly what direction threads will derail because this one went a completely different direction than anticipated.

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