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Tums Festival

Quote from: Ellensons Headband on September 25, 2014, 06:49:43 AM
As any Badger fan can tell you, college athletics began in 1991.

+1

That's definitely what they believe.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

#26
Quote from: Ellensons Tap on September 25, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
So the real irony is that whenever you stated this in the last few years (prior to last year) the 9 clowns that got bent a$$ backwards and frothed at the mouth were right and you were 100% inaccurate. And that those 9 clowns wouldn't argue that last year changed the equation yet again. Got it.

Except, even without last year, UW has been better since 2000.

2000-2013:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 14 appearances, 6 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 8 wins over MU

I hate saying it, but it's true. Of course we have a miles better program pre 2000. But since 2000...Chicos is right.

Edit:

Well, I guess it depends if you count the 1999-2000 season. Because than the numbers look like this:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 13 appearances, 5 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, 0 final fours, 7 wins over MU.

So it depends on your definition of "since 2000."
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


CTWarrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 25, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
My concern for a number of years, and that includes with Crean, is that we tried to often to "out athlete" people.  It can work to an extent, but I want solid fundamental basketball players as well.  ... I want kids that basketball players with athleticism, not necessarily athletes that play basketball.  There is a difference. 

It's not impossible or even unheard of to bring in kids that are both athletic and fundamentally sound.  I will take that on most occasions over the super freakish athlete that doesn't understand how to play.

This, though obviously good basketball players that are athletic aren't always easy to get. 

The other thing is, if you are going to try to straight out-athlete your opponent, some of that athleticism has to be big, and our most athletic teams were small.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Ellensons Headband on September 25, 2014, 06:49:43 AM
As any Badger fan can tell you, college athletics began in 1991.

Yup, well aside from hockey, but certainly on the bball and pigskin side.  Of course, that's now 25 years ago.  As long as they keep scheduling trash for football and piss down their leg each year in that sport, it will be fun to watch. On the hoops side, they are a legitimate player and have been for well over a decade.  Best program in the state since 2000, as much as people hate to hear that.  The good new is that we've been very close and a helluva a program during the same stretch.

Lennys Tap

#29
Quote from: TAMU Ellenson on September 25, 2014, 01:35:21 PM
Except, even without last year, UW has been better since 2000.

2000-2013:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 14 appearances, 6 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 8 wins over MU

I hate saying it, but it's true. Of course we have a miles better program pre 2000. But since 2000...Chicos is right.

Edit:

Well, I guess it depends if you count the 1999-2000 season. Because than the numbers look like this:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 13 appearances, 5 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, 0 final fours, 7 wins over MU.

So it depends on your definition of "since 2000."

Nobody said UW wasn't better than us from 2000-13 or 2000-14. The point was that during the Buzz years ( I think the guy used 2010-13 but not including last year) MU was better.

dgies9156

It's all history.

What's going to happen this year and are we getting Ellenson?

If we are, we'll be great! If Wojo is what we hope he is, it's Al time again!

Goodbye Bucky! Enjoy it while you can.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 25, 2014, 01:39:37 PM
Yup, well aside from hockey, but certainly on the bball and pigskin side.  Of course, that's now 25 years ago.  As long as they keep scheduling trash for football and piss down their leg each year in that sport, it will be fun to watch. On the hoops side, they are a legitimate player and have been for well over a decade.  Best program in the state since 2000, as much as people hate to hear that.  The good new is that we've been very close and a helluva a program during the same stretch.

Seconded.  It's like I said just because they were better doesn't mean that our resume in that stretch isn't one 95% of the basketball schools wouldn't kill for. 
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Ellensons Tap on September 25, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
So the real irony is that whenever you stated this in the last few years (prior to last year) the 9 clowns that got bent a$$ backwards and frothed at the mouth were right and you were 100% inaccurate. And that those 9 clowns wouldn't argue that last year changed the equation yet again. Got it.

Uhm, no...you were wrong then and wrong now.  Since 2000, UW-madison has had a better program, even when stated a few years ago.

I'm sure an apology or even an admission of being wrong is coming, but I doubt it.

forgetful

#33
Quote from: TAMU Ellenson on September 25, 2014, 01:35:21 PM
Except, even without last year, UW has been better since 2000.

2000-2013:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 14 appearances, 6 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 8 wins over MU

I hate saying it, but it's true. Of course we have a miles better program pre 2000. But since 2000...Chicos is right.

Edit:

Well, I guess it depends if you count the 1999-2000 season. Because than the numbers look like this:
MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 13 appearances, 5 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, 0 final fours, 7 wins over MU.

So it depends on your definition of "since 2000."

I would think that everyone would say since 2000, means starting with the 2000-2001 season.  In which case MU was the better team from 2000-2013.

And if you look at it Post Bo Ryan you have:

MU: 10 appearances, 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four, 6 wins over Bucky
UW: 13 appearances, 5 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, 1 final fours, 8 wins over MU.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Ellensons Tap on September 25, 2014, 01:58:22 PM
Nobody said UW wasn't better than us from 2000-13 or 2000-14. The point was that during the Buzz years ( I think the guy used 2010-13 but not including last year) MU was better.

Actually a number of people said UW was not better than us from 2000-13. They were silly, but facts be damned.


Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 25, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
Actually a number of people said UW was not better than us from 2000-13. They were silly, but facts be damned.



Classic Chicos victim card!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


muhoosier260

Is there anyway to have an ignored user's comments not show up when the user is quoted? I wish there was a total ignore feature, not interested in seeing petulant nonsense.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: muhoosier260 on September 25, 2014, 09:23:43 PM
Is there anyway to have an ignored user's comments not show up when the user is quoted? I wish there was a total ignore feature, not interested in seeing petulant nonsense.


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muhoosier260

#40
Nah. Right on cue though, thanks for proving my point.

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