Remaining top 100 Recruiting Battles

[CreightonWarrior]

Do you have a link? I can't seem to find anything about McQuaid being down to two. I hope y'all get him, he seems like a perfect fit for McDermmott's system.

Don't have one offhand as I don't really follow recruiting much but those are his only two scheduled visits since he decommitted from SMU and its a general consensus amongst those that follow recruiting in the Creighton community that this is the case.

Also, sounds like #62 Ed Morrow is a heavy lean to Nebraska. Don't think Creighton is really in on him anymore.

[teal]We never wanted him anyways[/teal]

[Dawson Rental]

Don't have one offhand as I don't really follow recruiting much but those are his only two scheduled visits since he decommitted from SMU and its a general consensus amongst those that follow recruiting in the Creighton community that this is the case.

Also, sounds like #62 Ed Morrow is a heavy lean to Nebraska. Don't think Creighton is really in on him anymore.

We never wanted him anyways

FIFY     (teal)

"We never wanted him anyways" is a little too obvious.  Up here in Wisco, the preferred phrase is "McDermott cooled on him."

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I love how the Creighton fan has more of an understanding of how to use teal than most MU fans on this board.

[brandx]

I just reran some numbers on RSCI high school ranking vs a player being drafted by the NBA.

Once you get past the top 30 ranked or so there isn't much difference in the odds of a player rated top 50 of getting drafted and a player rated near the bottom of the top 100.

using years 1999-2010;
104 players ranked between 1-10 were drafted (86.7%)
72 players between 11-20 were drafted (60.5%)
47 players between 21-30 were drafted (39.8%)
29 players between 31-40 were drafted (24.4%)
22 players between 41-50 were drafted (18.6%)
21 players between 51-60 were drafted  (17.6%)
18 players between 91-100 were drafted (15.3%)  among them;  Gilbert Arenas, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Draymond Green, Greivis Vasquez

Thanks, OW. I was gonna do it, but you saved me the trouble.

[bilsu]

I would think most of the 104 top 10 players were first round draft choices & probably lottery picks.
The break down would be more interesting if it was broken down into lottery picks, later first round and second round.

[oldwarrior81]

I would think most of the 104 top 10 players were first round draft choices & probably lottery picks.
The break down would be more interesting if it was broken down into lottery picks, later first round and second round.

of the 104 top ten high schoolers, 46 were also top 10 NBA draft picks.  37 were taken 11-30,  the remaining 21 were 31-55.

No doubt "they" generally get it right with the top 10.  About 70% end up being first round draft choices.
But there doesn't really appear to be much difference of the success of the guys rated 40-100.

[martyconlonontherun]

I just reran some numbers on RSCI high school ranking vs a player being drafted by the NBA.

Once you get past the top 30 ranked or so there isn't much difference in the odds of a player rated top 50 of getting drafted and a player rated near the bottom of the top 100.

using years 1999-2010;
104 players ranked between 1-10 were drafted (86.7%)
72 players between 11-20 were drafted (60.5%)
47 players between 21-30 were drafted (39.8%)
29 players between 31-40 were drafted (24.4%)
22 players between 41-50 were drafted (18.6%)
21 players between 51-60 were drafted  (17.6%)
18 players between 91-100 were drafted (15.3%)  among them;  Gilbert Arenas, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Draymond Green, Greivis Vasquez

Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.

[NersEllenson]

Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.

Your username is excellent - Marty Conlon was a joy to watch fill a lane on a fast break. 

However, please join the movement - Martyellensonontherun.

[esotericmindguy]

Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.

I believe the numbers actually prove the point. the difference from 40 to 100 is very slight. In 12 years that makes 120 players in each subset. In the 12 year case study 18 players were drafted from 91-100 and 22 players drafted from 41-50. 4 more players over a 12 year span, or 1 every 3 years. Proving the point there is a sharp drop off after the top tier recruits.

[Logi4three]

Here is an MSU article about its remaining targets.  http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/a_big_weekend_for_visits_and_m.html

Like the fact Swanigan is quoted as saying "[Izzo/MSU] really wanted to come on day one [of currently open recruiting period] to show that they are recruiting me the hardest, and that was really the message...."  Hope Henry understands that. 

Article says Izzo also spent part of the first day checking in on 2016 forward prospect Nick Ward.

[bamamarquettefan]

Do you have a link? I can't seem to find anything about McQuaid being down to two. I hope y'all get him, he seems like a perfect fit for McDermmott's

did you see what they did to us last year? I dont want creighton to get anyone!

Just kidding creightonwarrior - good luck on getting him

[Johnny B]

Last 3 crystal ball predictions have #4 Cheick Diallo going to St. Johns. HMMM..

[CreightonWarrior]

Looks like both our guys left East Lansing without a committ...not as suprising for you guys but a relief for Creighton

[CreightonWarrior]

#62 Ed Morrow committed to Nebraska

[JakeBarnes]

Last 3 crystal ball predictions have #4 Cheick Diallo going to St. Johns. HMMM..

Wow. That would be a huge get for Lavinwood. Are we going to take an over/under on how long it takes for him to become ineligible and/or clash with the coach and go overseas?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Here's an updated list. A few crystal ball predictions have changed. #91 Markis McDuffie trimmed his list and removed all the BEast schools chasing him. We've also had a few commits: #40 Eric Davis to Texas, #61 Ed Morrow to Nebraska, #94 Alex Illikainen to Wisconsin, #95 Chris Silva to South Carolina, #96 Chris Comanche to Arizona, #97 Steve Enoch to UConn, #100 Bryant Crawford to Wake Forest.

#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#28: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#31: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#32: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#33: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#35: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#36: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#57: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#59: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#62: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final seven. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#63: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#64: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#70: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#74: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#85: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#86: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#90: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#91: Markis McDuffie: No BEast schools in his final 4. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#92: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#93: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#98: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.

[WarriorInNYC]

#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzc-dB8Xuk   

I didn't know this guy played basketball

[GB Warrior]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzc-dB8Xuk   

I didn't know this guy played basketball

Seems like a bit of a traditional.

[muwarrior69]

So, how often has the crystal ball been right?

[JakeBarnes]

Creighton just landed Marlon Stewart. 3 star G. Composite ranking of 281.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So, how often has the crystal ball been right?

Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school

[muwarrior69]

Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school

Yikes! The crystal ball must be an atheist!

[MU82]

Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school

Ipso fatso, Ellenson to MU is only a done-ish deal.

[CreightonWarrior]

McQuaid to Michigan State...thats a tough tough loss for Creighton

[GGGG]

McQuaid to Michigan State...thats a tough tough loss for Creighton

And a case where the 247 Crystal Ball prediction was wrong.