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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 10, 2014, 07:04:48 PM
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Pet project of mine. Obviously still early to tell. BEast schools are in on less top 100 prospects than I would like.
All the talk about how many Top 100 kids is the BEast landing versus other conferences made me curious about looking into what our BEast brethren are up to. Here is the remaining unsigned top 100 recruits and what BEast schools are pursuing them:
#1: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#5: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#6: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#9: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#10: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#14: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#17: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#20: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#24: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#25: Georgios Papagiannis: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Maryland.
#27: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#29: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#34: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Notre Dame.
#35: Eric Davis: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#36: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#38: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#46: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#52: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#62: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#64: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#66: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#67: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#70: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#73: Hyron Edwards: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#79: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#80: A.J. Turner: Hasn't trimmed his list. Providence is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#84: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#85: Mickey Mitchell: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Texas Tech.
#86: Chance Comanche: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Arizona.
#88: Alex Illikainen: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#94: Wendell Mithcell: No Beast schools in his final 5. No crystal ball prediction at this time.
#95: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#98: Rayjon Tuker: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Clemson.
#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
#100: Bryant Crawford: Listed Georgetown and Marquette in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgetown.
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Thank you for not having me look all these up. I actually was. :)
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Good job.
It will be interesting to see how many crystal ball predictions are right.
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Hoyas may be listed, but I wouldn't really say they are in on: Newman, Swanigan, or Comanche.
none of them are considering Georgetown to my knowledge.
Crawford, Dozier, Rabb, Skal are the ones we're actually on and I listed them in the likelihood of us landing them.
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Updated for the new ESPN 100.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#28: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#31: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#32: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#33: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Notre Dame.
#35: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#36: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#40: Eric Davis: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#57: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#59: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#61: Ed Morrow: Hasn't trimmed his list. Depaul and Creighton are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Nebraska.
#62: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final seven. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#63: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#64: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#70: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#74: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#85: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#86: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#90: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#91: Markis McDuffie: Hasn't trimmed his list. Creighton and Seton Hall are in play. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#92: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#93: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#94: Alex Illikainen: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#95: Chris Silva: Listed Villanova and Seton Hall in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Seton Hall
#96: Chance Comanche: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Arizona.
#97: Steven Enoch: Hasn't trimmed his list. Providence is in play. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#98: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
#100: Bryant Crawford: Listed Georgetown and Marquette in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgetown.
Unranked: Georgios Papagiannis: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Maryland.
Unranked: Hyron Edwards: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
Unranked: A.J. Turner: Hasn't trimmed his list. Providence is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
Unranked: Mickey Mitchell: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Texas Tech.
Unranked: Wendell Mithcell: No Beast schools in his final 5. No crystal ball prediction at this time.
Unranked: Rayjon Tuker: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Clemson.
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Curious if you know, TAMU. How accurate has Crystal Ball been over the years?
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Curious if you know, TAMU. How accurate has Crystal Ball been over the years?
What are you interested in? The predictions five minute before the kid announces (picks up the hat) ... those are pretty accurate.
Or are you interested in the predictions weeks or months before the kid announces? Use a magic eight-ball, about as accurate.
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Curious if you know, TAMU. How accurate has Crystal Ball been over the years?
Depends on your definition. They are better as an general guideline of who has momentum. But HBerg is right. When you can change your pick five minutes before the decision....
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You cant look at the overall, look at individual and their history with covering certain teams (college, HS, AAU) for instance look at Mark Miller and MU, he picks earlier than most on MU and is right.
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Thanks for your insights, HBerg, TAMU and Daddyo.
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TAMU - appreciate your work on this. Saves me the trouble.
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You cant look at the overall, look at individual and their history with covering certain teams (college, HS, AAU) for instance look at Mark Miller and MU, he picks earlier than most on MU and is right.
Absolutely. For my money, Miller is the key when it comes to MU recruiting. I take what he says to the bank.
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So I don't know what happened. ESPN released their new top 100 a few days ago...but it changed again over the weekend. Not many drastic moves but Noskowiak moved down a spot and Bryant Crawford is no longer on the list. We've also had some commits in the past few days, so I thought I would update the list.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#29: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#32: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#33: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#34: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Notre Dame.
#36: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#37: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list list yet. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou
#41: Eric Davis: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#58: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#60: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#62: Ed Morrow: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Depaul are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Nebraska.
#63: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#64: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#65: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#71: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#75: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#86: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#87: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#91: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#92: Markis McDuffie: Hasn't trimmed his list. Creighton and Seton Hall are in play. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#93: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#94: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#95: Alex Illikainen: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#96: Chris Silva: Listed Seton Hall and Villanova in his final 5. Crystal ball as him going to Seton Hall.
#99: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#100: Keith Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
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Memphis had a recruit reclassify to 2015.. Lawson?...bumped everyone down a spot.
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Updated for the new ESPN 100.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#28: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#31: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#32: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#33: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Notre Dame.
#35: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#36: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#40: Eric Davis: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#57: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#59: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#61: Ed Morrow: Hasn't trimmed his list. Depaul and Creighton are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Nebraska.
#62: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final seven. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#63: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#64: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#70: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#74: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#85: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#86: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#90: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#91: Markis McDuffie: Hasn't trimmed his list. Creighton and Seton Hall are in play. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#92: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#93: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#94: Alex Illikainen: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#95: Chris Silva: Listed Villanova and Seton Hall in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Seton Hall
#96: Chance Comanche: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Arizona.
#97: Steven Enoch: Hasn't trimmed his list. Providence is in play. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#98: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
#100: Bryant Crawford: Listed Georgetown and Marquette in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgetown.
Unranked: Georgios Papagiannis: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Maryland.
Unranked: Hyron Edwards: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
Unranked: A.J. Turner: Hasn't trimmed his list. Providence is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
Unranked: Mickey Mitchell: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Texas Tech.
Unranked: Wendell Mithcell: No Beast schools in his final 5. No crystal ball prediction at this time.
Unranked: Rayjon Tuker: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Clemson.
Thanks for the update!
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Great summary - love the bolding. Makes it so easy to scan. With all the Crystsl Ball predictions to KY it makes you think they have unlimited scholarships lol
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Memphis had a recruit reclassify to 2015.. Lawson?...bumped everyone down a spot.
That would make sense. Thanks Noble!
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Great summary - love the bolding. Makes it so easy to scan. With all the Crystsl Ball predictions to KY it makes you think they have unlimited scholarships lol
The other one is UConn. They've got two locked up for 2015 and still have a bunch of predictions. Though I hope they are right about Stone, I don't want to see him in a Vadger uniform
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So I don't know what happened. ESPN released their new top 100 a few days ago...but it changed again over the weekend. Not many drastic moves but Noskowiak moved down a spot and Bryant Crawford is no longer on the list. We've also had some commits in the past few days, so I thought I would update the list.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#29: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#32: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#33: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#34: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Notre Dame.
#36: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#37: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list list yet. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou
#41: Eric Davis: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#58: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#60: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#62: Ed Morrow: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Depaul are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Nebraska.
#63: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#64: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#65: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#71: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#75: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#86: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#87: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#91: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#92: Markis McDuffie: Hasn't trimmed his list. Creighton and Seton Hall are in play. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#93: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#94: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#95: Alex Illikainen: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#96: Chris Silva: Listed Seton Hall and Villanova in his final 5. Crystal ball as him going to Seton Hall.
#99: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#100: Keith Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
Awesome job of putting this together! As I mentioned before, very surprised to not see Heldt on ESPN's list.
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Awesome job of putting this together! As I mentioned before, very surprised to not see Heldt on ESPN's list.
He does have an ESPN grade of 80, which is the same as the guys listed 95-100. So, he is right there.
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Does it really matter what his grade is? Not really, only thing that matters is how he plays during the 4 years at MU. Juan was a Top 100 kid, how has that worked out? Higher expectations
for him. Brian Butch was Top 10 as well. Brian redshirted his first year, who does that if he really was a Top 10 kid. What really matters is when Duane Wilson or another player says, that kid
can play. Jimmy Butler, Jay Crowder, there are good players everywhere that were not ranked. More importantly, see who is recruiting the kid and what schools will tell you how good the kid
is.
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I just reran some numbers on RSCI high school ranking vs a player being drafted by the NBA.
Once you get past the top 30 ranked or so there isn't much difference in the odds of a player rated top 50 of getting drafted and a player rated near the bottom of the top 100.
using years 1999-2010;
104 players ranked between 1-10 were drafted (86.7%)
72 players between 11-20 were drafted (60.5%)
47 players between 21-30 were drafted (39.8%)
29 players between 31-40 were drafted (24.4%)
22 players between 41-50 were drafted (18.6%)
21 players between 51-60 were drafted (17.6%)
18 players between 91-100 were drafted (15.3%) among them; Gilbert Arenas, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Draymond Green, Greivis Vasquez
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No. 65 Matt McQuaid is down to Creighton and Michigan St. Visited Creighton two weekends ago and going up to East Lansing this upcoming weekend, probably will have a decision soon.
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Also, Chris Clarke (#62) is taking an official to Creighton this weekend. Visited UCONN two weekends ago.
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No. 65 Matt McQuaid is down to Creighton and Michigan St. Visited Creighton two weekends ago and going up to East Lansing this upcoming weekend, probably will have a decision soon.
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find anything about McQuaid being down to two. I hope y'all get him, he seems like a perfect fit for McDermmott's system.
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Do you have a link? I can't seem to find anything about McQuaid being down to two. I hope y'all get him, he seems like a perfect fit for McDermmott's system.
Don't have one offhand as I don't really follow recruiting much but those are his only two scheduled visits since he decommitted from SMU and its a general consensus amongst those that follow recruiting in the Creighton community that this is the case.
Also, sounds like #62 Ed Morrow is a heavy lean to Nebraska. Don't think Creighton is really in on him anymore.
[teal]We never wanted him anyways[/teal]
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Don't have one offhand as I don't really follow recruiting much but those are his only two scheduled visits since he decommitted from SMU and its a general consensus amongst those that follow recruiting in the Creighton community that this is the case.
Also, sounds like #62 Ed Morrow is a heavy lean to Nebraska. Don't think Creighton is really in on him anymore.
We never wanted him anyways
FIFY (teal)
"We never wanted him anyways" is a little too obvious. Up here in Wisco, the preferred phrase is "McDermott cooled on him."
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I love how the Creighton fan has more of an understanding of how to use teal than most MU fans on this board.
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I just reran some numbers on RSCI high school ranking vs a player being drafted by the NBA.
Once you get past the top 30 ranked or so there isn't much difference in the odds of a player rated top 50 of getting drafted and a player rated near the bottom of the top 100.
using years 1999-2010;
104 players ranked between 1-10 were drafted (86.7%)
72 players between 11-20 were drafted (60.5%)
47 players between 21-30 were drafted (39.8%)
29 players between 31-40 were drafted (24.4%)
22 players between 41-50 were drafted (18.6%)
21 players between 51-60 were drafted (17.6%)
18 players between 91-100 were drafted (15.3%) among them; Gilbert Arenas, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Draymond Green, Greivis Vasquez
Thanks, OW. I was gonna do it, but you saved me the trouble.
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I would think most of the 104 top 10 players were first round draft choices & probably lottery picks.
The break down would be more interesting if it was broken down into lottery picks, later first round and second round.
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I would think most of the 104 top 10 players were first round draft choices & probably lottery picks.
The break down would be more interesting if it was broken down into lottery picks, later first round and second round.
of the 104 top ten high schoolers, 46 were also top 10 NBA draft picks. 37 were taken 11-30, the remaining 21 were 31-55.
No doubt "they" generally get it right with the top 10. About 70% end up being first round draft choices.
But there doesn't really appear to be much difference of the success of the guys rated 40-100.
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I just reran some numbers on RSCI high school ranking vs a player being drafted by the NBA.
Once you get past the top 30 ranked or so there isn't much difference in the odds of a player rated top 50 of getting drafted and a player rated near the bottom of the top 100.
using years 1999-2010;
104 players ranked between 1-10 were drafted (86.7%)
72 players between 11-20 were drafted (60.5%)
47 players between 21-30 were drafted (39.8%)
29 players between 31-40 were drafted (24.4%)
22 players between 41-50 were drafted (18.6%)
21 players between 51-60 were drafted (17.6%)
18 players between 91-100 were drafted (15.3%) among them; Gilbert Arenas, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Draymond Green, Greivis Vasquez
Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.
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Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.
Your username is excellent - Marty Conlon was a joy to watch fill a lane on a fast break.
However, please join the movement - Martyellensonontherun.
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Great work. People say there isn't much difference between getting guys in the 30's versus 50's but look at it this way. But that is like hitting on 1 extra guy per roster. There's usually a reason guys are ranked higher and over the long-term, ranking does matter.
I believe the numbers actually prove the point. the difference from 40 to 100 is very slight. In 12 years that makes 120 players in each subset. In the 12 year case study 18 players were drafted from 91-100 and 22 players drafted from 41-50. 4 more players over a 12 year span, or 1 every 3 years. Proving the point there is a sharp drop off after the top tier recruits.
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Here is an MSU article about its remaining targets. http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/a_big_weekend_for_visits_and_m.html
Like the fact Swanigan is quoted as saying "[Izzo/MSU] really wanted to come on day one [of currently open recruiting period] to show that they are recruiting me the hardest, and that was really the message...." Hope Henry understands that.
Article says Izzo also spent part of the first day checking in on 2016 forward prospect Nick Ward.
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Do you have a link? I can't seem to find anything about McQuaid being down to two. I hope y'all get him, he seems like a perfect fit for McDermmott's
did you see what they did to us last year? I dont want creighton to get anyone!
Just kidding creightonwarrior - good luck on getting him
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Last 3 crystal ball predictions have #4 Cheick Diallo going to St. Johns. HMMM..
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Looks like both our guys left East Lansing without a committ...not as suprising for you guys but a relief for Creighton
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#62 Ed Morrow committed to Nebraska
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Last 3 crystal ball predictions have #4 Cheick Diallo going to St. Johns. HMMM..
Wow. That would be a huge get for Lavinwood. Are we going to take an over/under on how long it takes for him to become ineligible and/or clash with the coach and go overseas?
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Here's an updated list. A few crystal ball predictions have changed. #91 Markis McDuffie trimmed his list and removed all the BEast schools chasing him. We've also had a few commits: #40 Eric Davis to Texas, #61 Ed Morrow to Nebraska, #94 Alex Illikainen to Wisconsin, #95 Chris Silva to South Carolina, #96 Chris Comanche to Arizona, #97 Steve Enoch to UConn, #100 Bryant Crawford to Wake Forest.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: Listed Georgetown in his top 12. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#28: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#31: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#32: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#33: Jalen Coleman: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#35: Jawun Evans: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Illinois.
#36: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#57: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#59: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#62: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final seven. Crystal ball has him going to UConn.
#63: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#64: Matt McQuaid: Hasn't trimmed his list yet. Creighton and Marquette are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Creighton.
#70: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#74: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#85: Levan Alston: Listed Marquette in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Temple.
#86: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#90: Aaron Falzon: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Boston College.
#91: Markis McDuffie: No BEast schools in his final 4. No crystal ball predictions at this time.
#92: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#93: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#98: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
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#99: Keith Stone: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in paly. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzc-dB8Xuk
I didn't know this guy played basketball
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzc-dB8Xuk
I didn't know this guy played basketball
Seems like a bit of a traditional.
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So, how often has the crystal ball been right?
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Creighton just landed Marlon Stewart. 3 star G. Composite ranking of 281.
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So, how often has the crystal ball been right?
Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school
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Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school
Yikes! The crystal ball must be an atheist!
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Well since I started this little experiment. They are 5/7 on ESPN 100 recruits. Unfortunately, the only two times they got it wrong was when the prospect was projected to go to a BEast school
Ipso fatso, Ellenson to MU is only a done-ish deal.
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McQuaid to Michigan State...thats a tough tough loss for Creighton
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McQuaid to Michigan State...thats a tough tough loss for Creighton
And a case where the 247 Crystal Ball prediction was wrong.
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Here's an updated list. 33 top 100 recruits remain. 20 of them are in the top 37. 7 are in the bottom 13. Very few left in the middle.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#5: Ivan Rabb: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Chieck Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UNLV
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky
#14: Antonio Blakeney: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#29: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#32: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#33: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Kansas.
#37: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list list yet. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mizzou.
#58: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#60: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#63: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Tennessee.
#64: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State.
#71: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 3. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#75: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.
#87: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#91: Aaron Falzon: No BEast schools in his final 2. Crystal ball has him going to Harvard.
#92: Markis McDuffie: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to VCU.
#93: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#94: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
#99: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 3. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#100: Keith Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
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Great work again TAMU.
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Another update. We are down to 23 unsigned ESPN 100 recruits. 18 of those 23 are in the top 37. Wojo is in on two of the bottom 5 remaining top 100 recruits. Potentially big news is Briscoe trimming his list to three. St. John's is competing with Kentucky and UConn for the hometown kid. Crystal ball has them winning out! Would be a great get for the BEast.
#2: Jaylen Brown: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#3: Malik Newman: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown is in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kentucky.
#5: Ivan Rabb: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Cal.
#6: Diamond Stone: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal Ball has him going to UConn.
#7: Cheick Diallo: Hasn't trimmed his list. St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, and Providence are in play. Crystal Ball has him going to Kansas.
#8: Caleb Swanigan: Hasn't trimmed his list. Georgetown and Xavier are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Michigan State.
#10: Stephen Zimmerman: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#11: Skal Labissiere: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
#12: Brandon Ingram: No BEast Schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Duke.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed St. John's in his final 3. Crystal ball has him going to St. John's
#14: Antonio Blakeney: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#16: Thomas Bryant: Hasn't trimmed his list. Seton Hall and Villanova are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Syracuse.
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky.
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina.
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn
#32: Brandon Sampson: Listed St. John's in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to LSU.
#33: Tyler Dorsey: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Cal.
#37: Ted Kapita: Hasn't trimmed his list list yet. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
#58: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia.
#63: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Virginia Tech.
#87: Melvin Frazier: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette is in play. Crystal ball has him going to Houston.
#93: Shawntrez Davis: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Mississippi State.
#94: Davon Dillard: Hasn't trimmed his list. Marquette, Creighton, and Providence are in play. Crystal ball has him going to Purdue.
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Ivan Rabb eliminated GTown and UNC.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/24/five-star-2015-power-forward-ivan-rabb-down-to-arizona-cal-kansas-kentucky-and-ucla-unc-georgetown-out/
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Ivan Rabb eliminated GTown and UNC.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/24/five-star-2015-power-forward-ivan-rabb-down-to-arizona-cal-kansas-kentucky-and-ucla-unc-georgetown-out/
Good catch, updated
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#11: Skal Labissiere: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis.
Over the summer, Labissiere raised some eyebrows when he openly discussed the idea of skipping college altogether, and going right to the professional ranks, following in the footsteps of elite 2015 guard Emmanuel Mudiay. This move was contemplated in the wake of Labissiere's eligibility being thrown into question when he transferred to a place called Lausanne Collegiate School, in Memphis, from Evangelical Christian.
Now things are being shaken up again. Labissiere has an American legal guardian by the name of Gerald Hamilton. Hamilton runs a nonprofit organization in Memphis called "Reach Your Dream." Yesterday, Labissiere announced that he will be playing basketball this coming year at Reach Your Dream Prep. Hamilton will be the coach.
There's only one problem. Reach Your Dream Prep does not appear to exist. The website consists of a point on a map (Here's the street view). It appears that Hamilton has created this entity in order for Labissiere to have a "place" to play basketball this year. Labissiere later clarified the situation, stating that while he'll be playing ball at Reach Your Dream, he'll still be attending classes at Lausanne, and intends to graduate from that institution.
This has eligibility questions written all over it. If Labissiere decides to attend college at all, it'll be very interesting to see what the eligibility situation is, and which schools are willing to take him on. With everything that has gone on at North Carolina, would they be willing to take on a kid whose guardian/handler is steering him to a "prep school" that doesn't exist, where he gets to be the coach, with some undefined relationship to the school at which the kid is actually attending classes? Is this the kind of headache UNC needs at this point? A kid who will be suspected of academic shenanigans just to remain eligible to play basketball?
UNC fans have been very confident that they are going to land one of the elite big men in the Class of 2015. Henry Ellenson? Whiff. Diamond Stone? Whiff. Ivan Rabb? Whiff. They're still nominally in it for Stephen Zimmerman, but I for one will be very, very surprised if he chooses Carolina. The one they've been holding out the most hope for is Labissiere. Can they afford to take him with all the baggage and all the scrutiny that will come with it, in the wake of the Wainstein Report?
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UNC fans have been very confident that they are going to land one of the elite big men in the Class of 2015. Henry Ellenson? Whiff. Diamond Stone? Whiff. Ivan Rabb? Whiff. They're still nominally in it for Stephen Zimmerman, but I for one will be very, very surprised if he chooses Carolina. The one they've been holding out the most hope for is Labissiere. Can they afford to take him with all the baggage and all the scrutiny that will come with it, in the wake of the Wainstein Report?
The NCAA may never actually come down on UNC. But the investigation is definitely taking its toll on recruiting this season.
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The NCAA may never actually come down on UNC. But the investigation is definitely taking its toll on recruiting this season.
Have you updated this chart?
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The NCAA may never actually come down on UNC. But the investigation is definitely taking its toll on recruiting this season.
I'm sure the NCAA is praying everyone forgets about UNC's problems. The last they want to do is penalize the sainted Heels.
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Have you updated this chart?
he might now that you dug it up again.
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Here's an updated list. 33 top 100 recruits remain. 20 of them are in the top 37. 7 are in the bottom 13. Very few left in the middle.
#4: Henry Ellenson: Listed Marquette in his top 3. Crystal Ball has him going to Marquette.
#11: Skal Labissierre: Listed Georgetown in his final six. Crystal ball has him going to Memphis. KENTUCKY.
#13: Isaiah Briscoe: Listed Villanova, Seton Hall, and St. John's in his final 10. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky
#14: Antonio Blakeney: No BEast schools in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky. LSU
#18: Carlton Bragg: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky. KANSAS
#21: P.J. Dozier: Listed Georgetown in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to North Carolina. SOUTH CAROLINA
#22: Derrick Jones: No BEast schools in his final 9. Crystal ball has him going to UConn UNLV
#29: Elijah Thomas: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal Ball has him going to Oklahoma State. TEXAS A&M
#58: Tevin Mack: No BEast schools in his final 8. Crystal ball has him going to Georgia. VCU
#60: Doral Moore: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Kentucky. WAKE FOREST
#63: Chris Clarke: Listed Creighton in his final 7. Crystal ball has him going to Tennessee. VIRGINIA TECH
#64: Admon Gilder: No BEast schools in his final 6. Crystal ball has him going to Oklahoma State. TEXAS A&M
#71: Shake Milton: No BEast schools in his final 3. Crytsal ball has him going to SMU.
#75: Josh Sharma: Hasn't trimmed his list. No BEast schools in play. Crystal ball has him going to Wisconsin.SHARMA
#91: Aaron Falzon: No BEast schools in his final 2. Crystal ball has him going to Harvard. NORTHWESTERN
#92: Markis McDuffie: No BEast schools in his final 4. Crystal ball has him going to VCU. WICHITA STATE
#99: Kerwin Roach Jr.: No BEast schools in his final 3. Crystal ball has him going to Texas.
#100: Keith Stone: No BEast schools in his final 5. Crystal ball has him going to Florida.
cristal bowel = ridiculous computer game played by children. So stupid.
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Not sure it's fair to cherry pick a 4 month old post as evidence it's always wrong. Didn't check them all, but Labissiere was 89% Kentucky on Crystal Ball. Blakeney was 79% LSU. Bragg was 81% Kansas. That's just the first three names, but CB was right on all of them, despite predictions changing through the recruitment.
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Not sure it's fair to cherry pick a 4 month old post as evidence it's always wrong. Didn't check them all, but Labissiere was 89% Kentucky on Crystal Ball. Blakeney was 79% LSU. Bragg was 81% Kansas. That's just the first three names, but CB was right on all of them, despite predictions changing through the recruitment.
I didn't cherry pick. I looked at every single one who has committed.
cristal bowels as of early oct was off on MOST of them. Amazing and sad. Just plain stupid.
Yes, information often comes together days or a day before a commitment... and then all these children change their little picks and 'get it right'.. it's a joke.
OK to look if you're curious to see some of the schools involved, but most of the people making 'picks' there would be better off picking a name out of a hat. Dumb.
Top 2 Minnesota commits this year...
Kevin Dorsey - Minnesota... 0-fer (http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Kevin-Dorsey-at-Paul-VI-Catholic-44874/CurrentExpertPredictions)
Dupree McBrayer... 30% yes, 70% off.. (http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dupree-McBrayer-at-Vermont-Academy-131559/CurrentExpertPredictions)
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Have you updated this chart?
Not recently. I might if I find some time
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I didn't cherry pick. I looked at every single one who has committed.
cristal bowels as of early oct was off on MOST of them. Amazing and sad. Just plain stupid.
Yes, information often comes together days or a day before a commitment... and then all these children change their little picks and 'get it right'.. it's a joke.
OK to look if you're curious to see some of the schools involved, but most of the people making 'picks' there would be better off picking a name out of a hat. Dumb.
Top 2 Minnesota commits this year...
Kevin Dorsey - Minnesota... 0-fer (http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Kevin-Dorsey-at-Paul-VI-Catholic-44874/CurrentExpertPredictions)
Dupree McBrayer... 30% yes, 70% off.. (http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dupree-McBrayer-at-Vermont-Academy-131559/CurrentExpertPredictions)
They are what they are. Good tools to give you a general idea of what schools are in play. Terrible if you take them as gospel truth.
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I didn't cherry pick. I looked at every single one who has committed.
cristal bowels as of early oct was off on MOST of them. Amazing and sad. Just plain stupid.
Anything predictive in nature becomes more accurate as the event gets closer. But you look kind of foolish when you say "ah ha, they were wrong!" when the final tally was actually right. I only looked at the first three, but the first three which you put a caps-lock red highlighted name after were actually times CB was right.
Like any tool, it only has so much value and users should be aware of which predictors are most accurate and how recently predictions were made, but dropping a shout rampage saying they were wrong when the final numbers show they were right just makes it look like you have an inaccurate axe to grind.
Many of the predictions do change in the final days, so there's only so much value to looking at it months in advance, but again it comes down to which CB posters you trust more than anything. Mark Miller, for example, is usually pretty spot on. If he's says a guy is going somewhere, it's probably pretty well sourced info.
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^^^ no, it's stupid.
PS- add another to the list. Sampson to SJU not LSU.
It's a marketing tool for nimwits.
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Every time Mark Miller predicted a player to Marquette, he was right. The only ones that show up wrong on the site are guys like Hill and Pierce who changed their commitment. So call it whatever you want, but there are definitely people and programs that it makes sense to follow.
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Not recently. I might if I find some time
The Chart where you go through school by school in the Big East is also great.
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Where is Diamond Stone?
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Where is Diamond Stone?
Probably in class at Dominican. Next year he will probably be in class at UW.
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^^^ no, it's stupid.
PS- add another to the list. Sampson to SJU not LSU.
It's a marketing tool for nimwits.
I don't think it's stupid, it's a nice way to check which schools are most interested with players and where the momentum might be. Given how scattered recruiting info is across several sites and dozens of writers these days, it's not a bad one stop for recruiting info for a casual fan. It also has timelines on visits, any tweets, and other info associated with a recruit. It's probably the easiest way to get some quick, solid recruiting info.
Now if you're in tune with the recruiting scene and have other sources of information, yeah I can see how it would be dumb.
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Good catch, updated
MY feeling is Rabb goes to Arizona.
The Oakland Soldiers and AAU team pipeline to the desert has been a strong one in recent years: Brandon Ashley, Aaron Gordon, Josiah Turner, Nick Johnson, and possibly now, Rabb.
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Probably in class at Dominican. Next year he will probably be in class at UW.
Who cares? I'm more interested in Henry attending class at MU.
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Who cares? I'm more interested in Henry attending class at MU.
I think this is the third thread that I have read in the past 24 hours where your general response to the topic has been "who cares?"
What makes you think we care about what you don't care about?
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^^^ no, it's stupid.
PS- add another to the list. Sampson to SJU not LSU.
It's a marketing tool for nimwits.
JB I don't know if you realize or care at all but you come off as angry and bitter in a lot of your posts.
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JB I don't know if you realize or care at all but you come off as angry and bitter in a lot of your posts.
Oh he knows. Don't you worry.
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JB I don't know if you realize or care at all but you come off as angry and bitter in a lot of your posts.
Lay off JayBee...
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I think he is angry that Ben Howland is not our coach.
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Hey, if he's that way for real it's fine by me. I'm just giving him a heads up in case he's misrepresenting himself.
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Not a top 100 recruit, but it sounds like Wojo is getting closer to offering Sacar Anim of De La Salle in MN. Seems like he has been on a tear lately and Wojo was watching his game (the game before Henry's game). Kid has had a lot of interest as of late with Northwestern and Miami inquiring. A lot of people are putting him in the "sleeper" mold lately.
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I know many of you are against Twitter and looking into what a recruit is doing via social media, but Sacar recently followed Wojo (I'm assuming after he watched him play) and Wojo and Mark Miller both followed him so where there's smoke.....
I looked at some of his video and he looks like a solid prospect. Apparently put on a lot of muscle and looks like he belongs in college. Does a great job of getting to the rack and finishing with either hand. And he played for Howard Pulley (as did/does Amir Coffey) so maybe Wojo begins a pipeline into Minnesota. I think he looks like a solid prospect and wouldn't be surprised to see other high majors come calling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur39jNMeTLI
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Sacar took in the game at the Al; has also watched MU at the BC in past years.
"Where does he belong?" has been a debate among some folks for a few years.
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Sacar took in the game at the Al; has also watched MU at the BC in past years.
"Where does he belong?" has been a debate among some folks for a few years.
Where does he belong in your opinion?
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Definitely seems like Anim has been holding out for high major interest. He had all low to mid major offers, but as it gets later in the game more HM teams are interested, possibly because quality players are getting scarce.
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Sacar took in the game at the Al; has also watched MU at the BC in past years.
"Where does he belong?" has been a debate among some folks for a few years.
What are your thoughts on his strengths/weaknesses?
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I do love me some guards with 6"5 height and 6"8 wingspan. But is he a sleeper? Or just asleep?
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Anim must be soft. His highlight video doesn't have a rap song soundtrack.
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Sacar and Ellenson mentioned. Article from two days ago.
Free link
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1724234