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Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 09, 2014, 10:13:20 AM

If you mean "most talented per recruting rankings," I will remind you that those are the players that don't have a great deal of experience. 

How do you get experience? By getting playing time! There is no doubt in my mind that we could have rolled out our freshman for big minutes last year and do no worse than what we witnessed on the court by our experienced players. Buzz checked out and had no vested interest in giving them the playing time they should have received.

NersEllenson

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on September 09, 2014, 08:28:15 PM
How do you get experience? By getting playing time! There is no doubt in my mind that we could have rolled out our freshman for big minutes last year and do no worse than what we witnessed on the court by our experienced players. Buzz checked out and had no vested interest in giving them the playing time they should have received.

+1.

There really is no rebuttal.  Thankfully Sultan didn't choose to try to come up with a lame one.  But as we were told last season by Sultan and a handful of others...things could have gotten much worse if we played the freshman.  LOL.  Right.  We missed the NI freaking T. 

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

MU82

Quote from: Ners on September 09, 2014, 07:53:10 PM
Anybody would have made Jamil (and Gardner) better last season than Derrick Wilson and Jake Thomas at the Guard position.  Buzz threw away the senior years of our two best players by being a horses a$$ and playing two scrubs more minutes than any other players on the team.  As I've said before - there is a reason Jamil and Davante didn't have 1 word of thanks for Buzz on Senior Day, while thanking every other coach and support staff.  Wouldn't surprise me for a bit if they both went to Buzz and asked him to change the backcourt...and he wouldn't/didn't...and it continued to make it a miserable senior year for them and the team.



Jamil had the ball plenty. Even played PG quite a bit.

He sucked.

He was supposed to be our senior leader and our best player coming back, but he didn't take charge.

He was soft, passive and ineffective. He was the single biggest disapointment because he has talent and he wasted it. Gardner was largely able to overcome our bad guards and still contribute a lot offensively. Jamil failed.

I find it pretty humorous, Ners, that you can defend what Jamil did last season but you attack Blue every chance you get. Blue was a superduperstar in his last year at MU compared to what Jamil did his last year at MU.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Johnny B

Quote from: MU82 on September 09, 2014, 11:26:55 PM
Jamil had the ball plenty. Even played PG quite a bit.

He sucked.

He was supposed to be our senior leader and our best player coming back, but he didn't take charge.

He was soft, passive and ineffective. He was the single biggest disapointment because he has talent and he wasted it. Gardner was largely able to overcome our bad guards and still contribute a lot offensively. Jamil failed.

I find it pretty humorous, Ners, that you can defend what Jamil did last season but you attack Blue every chance you get. Blue was a superduperstar in his last year at MU compared to what Jamil did his last year at MU.
Dam straight

ChitownSpaceForRent

Alright guys...Which one if you updated Brents Wikipedia page?

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on September 10, 2014, 12:31:24 AM
Alright guys...Which one if you updated Brents Wikipedia page?

Lol, seems to be spot on to me!

ChicosBailBonds


NersEllenson

Quote from: MU82 on September 09, 2014, 11:26:55 PM
Jamil had the ball plenty. Even played PG quite a bit.

He sucked.

He was supposed to be our senior leader and our best player coming back, but he didn't take charge.

He was soft, passive and ineffective. He was the single biggest disapointment because he has talent and he wasted it. Gardner was largely able to overcome our bad guards and still contribute a lot offensively. Jamil failed.

I find it pretty humorous, Ners, that you can defend what Jamil did last season but you attack Blue every chance you get. Blue was a superduperstar in his last year at MU compared to what Jamil did his last year at MU.

So why was Jamil soft, passive and ineffective as a senior - when even his detractors last year (Tower) have said he was clutch as a junior?  Jamil hit virtually just as many clutch shots down the stretch as Vander did in the Elite 8 season.  Vander had a few signature games - Butler comes to mind.  He wasn't a super duper star at all his last year at MU.  He was a good college guard.  Was he even 1st team All Big East? 

Blue always had the benefit of playing around very talented guys at every other position on the floor - in every one of his years.  What Gardner and Jamil got to play around last season was a joke...and it didn't have to be.  I mean really Buzz?  Starting lineup of Derrick, Jake, Juan, Jamil, Otule?  Gee 82 - you are an opposing coach, who are you trying to take away?

Leadership and taking charge can't overcome, being on the floor with 4 totally inept offensive players around you.  That's what is damn straight.

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

rocky_warrior

Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on September 10, 2014, 12:31:24 AM
Alright guys...Which one if you updated Brents Wikipedia page?

I know! I know! Only one user here has touched that IP address.  I won't tell though.

MU82

Quote from: Ners on September 10, 2014, 08:09:29 AM
Jamil hit virtually just as many clutch shots down the stretch as Vander did in the Elite 8 season. 

Keep telling yourself that, keep revising history.
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Sir Lawrence

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 10, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
I know! I know! Only one user here has touched that IP address.  I won't tell though.

Someone with those skills should update Bill Scholl's wiki page.
Ludum habemus.

Anti-Dentite

Quote from: MU82 on September 09, 2014, 11:26:55 PM
Jamil had the ball plenty. Even played PG quite a bit.

He sucked.

He was supposed to be our senior leader and our best player coming back, but he didn't take charge.

He was soft, passive and ineffective. He was the single biggest disapointment because he has talent and he wasted it. Gardner was largely able to overcome our bad guards and still contribute a lot offensively. Jamil failed.

I find it pretty humorous, Ners, that you can defend what Jamil did last season but you attack Blue every chance you get. Blue was a superduperstar in his last year at MU compared to what Jamil did his last year at MU.
Jamil was placed in a bad position by having to try and become a point guard part way through his senior year. Another thing in a list of crap Buzz blew last year. It was a disservice to Jamil who deserved to play his natural position in his senior year. Of course he didn't play well at the point....he's not a point. Seemed to throw his whole year off even after they gave up on the idea. Jamil got screwed!
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I believe MU will be a better offensive team this year and will have more ability to get steals, which will lead to fast breaks. I also believe they will be worse at defense and rebounding. Until someone steps up to show they can hit the clutch shot, we will again have trouble winning close games.

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