Conference recruiting scorecards

[HutchwasClutch]

Wojo's solid start in recruiting (great start if Ellenson commits, and I think he will), and talk about status of the Big East got me thinking how does the conference compare nationally.  We've got one class done, and another class well underway to compare to.  I went to ESPN as my source for the Top 100 breakdown by conference and here it is-

2014
ACC- 20
SEC- 14
Big East- 13
Big 10- 13
Pac 12- 13
Big 12- 7
M. West- 7
AAC- 4
A10- 4
WCC- 3
C-USA- 1
M. Valley- 1


2015 (55 of top 100 committed)
ACC- 14
SEC- 10
Big 10- 10
Pac 12- 10
Big East- 5
AAC- 3
A-10- 1
Big 12- 1 (ouch!!)
M West- 1

Very good showing in 2014.  Decent start this year and a long way to go for the 10 BE schools to reel in some more. (like Ellenson!)

I remain very bullish on this conference.  Will it be elite year in and year out like the old 16 team BE?  Doubtful.  Will it be a solid top 4-5 conference annually, and maybe now and then sneak up to one of the top two spots?  I think so.  Although I really think the conference will need to get to 12 to challenge the likes of ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, or whomever is at the top any given year.  (debate for another day which two would help get us there).

[GoldenWarrior11]

I thought this conference couldn't recruit with the big boys and was no longer relevant...

[HutchwasClutch]

I thought this conference couldn't recruit with the big boys and was no longer relevant...

I know that's the obit written by Badger fans.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If you look at those ACC and SEC numbers, you'll see they are all going to the same schools. The Big East spreads the loves between all of its teams (except Butler and Depaul). North Carolina, Duke, Florida, and Kentucky make up about half of the SEC and ACC's top 100 commits.

Also, you may want to delay this. A new ESPN ranking is coming out next week.

[JoeSmith1721]

It's even more impressive if you break it down relative to the number of teams in the Big East compared to the other conferences. In 2014 I believe the ACC only edges us out with 1.33 per team to our 1.3.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If you look at those ACC and SEC numbers, you'll see they are all going to the same schools. The Big East spreads the loves between all of its teams (except Butler and Depaul). North Carolina, Duke, Florida, and Kentucky make up about half of the SEC and ACC's top 100 commits.

Also, you may want to delay this. A new ESPN ranking is coming out next week.

Hopefully with Heldt cracking the Top 100.

[RealWarriorFan]

This is great, it might be more accurate if you divided the number of top 100 recruits by the nuber of teams in the conference. We only have 10 teams and the ACC is 15. Wojo and co are doing a nice job!

[HutchwasClutch]

If you look at those ACC and SEC numbers, you'll see they are all going to the same schools. The Big East spreads the loves between all of its teams (except Butler and Depaul). North Carolina, Duke, Florida, and Kentucky make up about half of the SEC and ACC's top 100 commits.

Also, you may want to delay this. A new ESPN ranking is coming out next week.

What kind of calendar schedule are they updated?  Or do they just announce when they're going to do it?

[HutchwasClutch]

If you look at those ACC and SEC numbers, you'll see they are all going to the same schools. The Big East spreads the loves between all of its teams (except Butler and Depaul). North Carolina, Duke, Florida, and Kentucky make up about half of the SEC and ACC's top 100 commits.

Also, you may want to delay this. A new ESPN ranking is coming out next week.

True with the SEC, Kentucky and Florida dominate.  In the ACC, Duke dominates the top players of course, but then it's spread around pretty well actually, I saw a lot of different schools represented.

Interestingly, of the 10 BE schools, Butler is the only one who's been shutout of the top 100, and that goes back to at least 2013's class.  So two full classes and nothing so far in 2015 for them either.

[MuMark]

ACC is going to be a step above other conferences as far as recruting is concerned. Duke and NC will always be monsters and now they have added Syracuse and Lousiville..2 other elite level schools.


Florida State is having a great recruiting year..Virginia, Pitt and ND will be solid.

[Galway Eagle]

ACC is going to be a step above other conferences as far as recruting is concerned. Duke and NC will always be monsters and now they have added Syracuse and Lousiville..2 other elite level schools.


Florida State is having a great recruiting year..Virginia, Pitt and ND will be solid.

And virginia tech!

[Wally Schroeder]

In terms of total Top 100 recruits and recruits/school, the BE did phenomenal with the 2014 class and is off to a fast start with 2015 recruits. However, it should be pointed out that Seton Hall's commitment from Isiah Whitehead (#14) is the BE's only 2014 Top 30 recruit, and the BE has only 5 of the Top 50, so more bottom heavy. Early 2015 is indicative of more of the same - Georgetown (#47) and MU (#49 - Noskowiak) are the only Top 50 for the BE. Hopefully Ellenson bucks the trend. Still quite impressive, but those top 20-30 5-star recruits have primarily stuck with Power 5 schools.

[Johnny B]

In terms of total Top 100 recruits and recruits/school, the BE did phenomenal with the 2014 class and is off to a fast start with 2015 recruits. However, it should be pointed out that Seton Hall's commitment from Isiah Whitehead (#14) is the BE's only 2014 Top 30 recruit, and the BE has only 5 of the Top 50, so more bottom heavy. Early 2015 is indicative of more of the same - Georgetown (#47) and MU (#49 - Noskowiak) are the only Top 50 for the BE. Hopefully Ellenson bucks the trend. Still quite impressive, but those top 20-30 5-star recruits have primarily stuck with Power 5 schools.

Copeland is 17 on espn and he's going to GTown this year.

[Wally Schroeder]

Copeland is 17 on espn and he's going to GTown this year.

Excellent - I missed him. That's 2 5-stars and 6 Top-50's in 2014. Better.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

For those curious about the school breakdown in 2014:

ACC
Duke: #1, #4, #15, #21
North Carolina: #8, #10, #17
Louisville: #33, #40, #75, #99
Syracuse: #24, #50
NC State: #32, #62, #91
Virginia Tech: #54, #70
Miami: #58
Georgia Tech: #74
8 Teams with 0
Average per team: 1.33

Big East:
Georgetown: #16, #31, #34
Seton Hall: #14, #48
Xavier: #46, #78
Providence: #61, #84
Villanova: #82, #92
Creighton: #71
Marquette: #83
3 teams with 0
Average per team: 1.3

PAC 12
Arizona: #7, #37, #57
UCLA: #12, #36, #69
Stanford: #27, #65
USC: #42, #94
Oregon: #40
Utah: #49
Colorado: #85
5 Teams with 0
Average per team: 1.08

SEC:
Kentucky: #6, #9, #18, #25
Florida: #23, #35, #45
Missouri: #53
LSU: #60
Texas A&M: #63
Alabama: #76, #93
Auburn: #68
Arkansas: #90
Vanderbilt: #96
5 teams with 0
Average per team: 1.07

Big 10:
Ohio State: #13, #22, #28
Indiana: #20, #47
Maryland: #29, #52
Michigan: #38
Illinois: #44
Northwestern: #66
Michigan State: #73
Purdue: #87, #89
6 Teams with 0
Average per team: .93

MWC:
UNLV: #19, #26, #39
SDSU: #55, #81, #88
Boise State: #80
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .64

Big 12
Kansas: #3, #11
Texas: #2, #86
Oklahoma State: #59
Oklahoma: #72
6 teams with 0
Average per team: .60

WCC:
BYU: #51, #95
Gonzaga: #56
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .30

A10:
VCU: #43, #77, #97
Rhode Island: #79
12 teams with 0
Average per team: .29

AAC
UConn: #30
Memphis: #67
Cincy: #100
8 Teams with 0
Average per team: .27

MVC:
Bradley: #98
9 teams with 0
Average per team: .10

C-USA:
UAB: #63
13 teams with 0
Average per team: .07

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What kind of calendar schedule are they updated?  Or do they just announce when they're going to do it?

They mentioned it in the article about Henry picking Noskowiak as the player he wants to team up with. That's the only reason I know

[Johnny B]

Wow at UNLV, impressive

[HutchwasClutch]

Wow at UNLV, impressive

Yeah, that's what I said too as I was going through it.  I had no idea they pulled a coup like that.

[Johnny B]

Yeah, that's what I said too as I was going through it.  I had no idea they pulled a coup like that.

Yeh looks like the MWC is rising as well.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

That's because everything  STAYS in Vegas

[Tums Festival]

Thanks Hutch and TAMU for pulling this information together. Now that we have a benchmark, let's see how the rest of 2015 shakes out. Wonder how many in this year's top 20 are seriously looking at Big East schools?

[Texas Western]

Wojo's solid start in recruiting (great start if Ellenson commits, and I think he will), and talk about status of the Big East got me thinking how does the conference compare nationally.  We've got one class done, and another class well underway to compare to.  I went to ESPN as my source for the Top 100 breakdown by conference and here it is-

2014
ACC- 20
SEC- 14
Big East- 13
Big 10- 13
Pac 12- 13
Big 12- 7
M. West- 7
AAC- 4
A10- 4
WCC- 3
C-USA- 1
M. Valley- 1


2015 (55 of top 100 committed)
ACC- 14
SEC- 10
Big 10- 10
Pac 12- 10
Big East- 5
AAC- 3
A-10- 1
Big 12- 1 (ouch!!)
M West- 1

Very good showing in 2014.  Decent start this year and a long way to go for the 10 BE schools to reel in some more. (like Ellenson!)

I remain very bullish on this conference.  Will it be elite year in and year out like the old 16 team BE?  Doubtful.  Will it be a solid top 4-5 conference annually, and maybe now and then sneak up to one of the top two spots?  I think so.  Although I really think the conference will need to get to 12 to challenge the likes of ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, or whomever is at the top any given year.  (debate for another day which two would help get us there).

This was a helpful analysis. I am also bullish on this conference. I think the conference configuration is ripe for developing rivalries. At the end of the day we have a lot of desirable schools in the conference and that will keep us in the vanguard for a long time.  Yes there are a handful of schools in the other conferences that will always be able to grab top 100 players if they want. However when you get more granular our top schools will continue to be more attractive than the middle or lower level schools in those conferences. For example what is more attractive Georgetown or Maryland? Villanova or Penn State? Marquette or Illinois? Would you rather play in front of 17,000 every night at Creighton or 5,000 at Northwestern?

[Johnny B]

This was a helpful analysis. I am also bullish on this conference. I think the conference configuration is ripe for developing rivalries. At the end of the day we have a lot of desirable schools in the conference and that will keep us in the vanguard for a long time.  Yes there are a handful of schools in the other conferences that will always be able to grab top 100 players if they want. However when you get more granular our top schools will continue to be more attractive than the middle or lower level schools in those conferences. For example what is more attractive Georgetown or Maryland? Villanova or Penn State? Marquette or Illinois? Would you rather play in front of 17,000 every night at Creighton or 5,000 at Northwestern?

With creihtons 17k per game you wonder why they can't get better recruits.

[Texas Western]

With creihtons 17k per game you wonder why they can't get better recruits.

I think now that they are in the Big East that will start to happen with more frequency. They have been in the conversation with a lot of quality recruits this year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Here's the 2015 breakdown with the updated ESPN 100

Pac 12
Arizona: #17, #24, #27
Washington: #46, #52
UCLA: #45, #84
USC: #50, #82
Oregon State: #68, #76
Oregon: #83
6 teams with 0
Average per team: 1

ACC:
Louisville: #14, #29, #37, #51
Syracuse: #19, #47, #48, #73
Duke: #9, #26
Florida State: #30, #38, #81
Pittsburgh: #72
10 teams with 0
Average per team: .93

SEC:
LSU: #1
Texas A&M: #20, #34
Florida: #41, #53, #75
Auburn: #54, #66
Kentucky: #43
Arkansas: #67
Alabama: #77
7 teams with 0
Average per team: .79

Big 10
Michigan State: #15
Ohio State: #44, #60, #71
Illinois: #49
Rutgers: #55
Penn State: #80, #88
Nebraska: #65
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .64

Big East:
Villanova: #23
Marquette: #69, #79
Georgetown: #58
Providence: #89
6 teams with 0
Average per team: .50

Big 12:
West Virginia: #42
Baylor: #87
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .20

AAC:
UConn: #25
Memphis: #39
9 teams with 0
Average per team: .18

MWC:
San Diego State: #56
10 teams with 0
Average per team: .09

A10:
VCU: #78
13 teams with 0
Average per team: .07