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MU/BC bidding on 2016 thru 2018 NCAA Tourney Games

Started by Tugg Speedman, August 11, 2014, 05:13:01 PM

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GGGG

Marquette doesn't make any money on the deal, and some of their personnel have to work it for the NCAA.  But if it really were bad for MU, why would they continue to bid?  Look, it helps the City to have a bunch of visitors downtown, and if all Marquette is doing is helping the city out, that should be supported. 

Really I can't believe that people would think this is a bad thing.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 12, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
Marquette doesn't make any money on the deal, and some of their personnel have to work it for the NCAA.  But if it really were bad for MU, why would they continue to bid?  Look, it helps the City to have a bunch of visitors downtown, and if all Marquette is doing is helping the city out, that should be supported.  

Really I can't believe that people would think this is a bad thing.

My understanding is the NCAA has the TV deal but the local school/arena get a piece of the gate/parking/concessions.

No one does this out of charity.

GGGG

They might get something.  They aren't getting rich from it in any respect.

But helping the city in which you are located isn't just charity.  It's good business.

mu_hilltopper

Ok, ok, we'll host in exchange for Avenue Commons!

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 12, 2014, 09:25:57 PM
They might get something.  They aren't getting rich from it in any respect.

But helping the city in which you are located isn't just charity.  It's good business.

So 16 home games and fielding an elite team most years is not enough?

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GGGG

Quote from: Heisenberg on August 12, 2014, 10:06:30 PM
So 16 home games and fielding an elite team most years is not enough?

Call Bill Cords and ask.  Seriously, Marquette wouldn't do this if they weren't getting something out of it.


Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 13, 2014, 07:55:27 AM
We really are cynical about everything aren't we?

No sh*t.  Most places think this is a cool thing.  Marquette thinks its a cool thing.

MUMonster03

Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2014, 05:58:53 PM
We cannot play in Milwaukee, if it is held here and we cannot play in Milwaukee if it is not held here. Beisdes that, if you are not a top four seed you can get shipped anywhere.

This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.

As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.

If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..

Litehouse

Quote from: MUMonster03 on August 13, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.

As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.

If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..

*and if we are not the hosts.  So theoretically, if UWM hosts the games at Miller Park or the MECCA, we could play there.  For Villanova, I believe the A-10 or another conference was the host when it was played there.

Spotcheck Billy

I think Nova was the host the times they did that

Nukem2

Quote from: madhouse on August 13, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
I think Nova was the host the times they did that
Yes, Nova was the host.  They simply scheduled the maximum # of games at the tourney site those seasons.

MUMonster03

Quote from: Litehouse on August 13, 2014, 09:29:30 AM
*and if we are not the hosts.  So theoretically, if UWM hosts the games at Miller Park or the MECCA, we could play there.  For Villanova, I believe the A-10 or another conference was the host when it was played there.

Yeah that part I'm not sure about. When I looked into it all I found was the 3 game part but couldn't find out anything about being the host school. I would think that would be correct but since most schools play on campus and not in the major cities it doesn't come up that often, since in our case there isn't another place for us to play.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: MUMonster03 on August 13, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.

As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.

If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..


New stadium coming in 2017, if reports are to be believed.  So we can play in the BC in 2018 (assuming this doesn't switch to the new stadium).

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Seriously - how often do we get placed in the closest arena to Milwaukee let alone getting a home game because MKE is building a new arena.  



Quote from: Heisenberg on August 13, 2014, 10:53:15 AM
New stadium coming in 2017, if reports are to be believed.  So we can play in the BC in 2018 (assuming this doesn't switch to the new stadium).

Litehouse

Quote from: Nukem2 on August 13, 2014, 10:25:02 AM
Yes, Nova was the host.  They simply scheduled the maximum # of games at the tourney site those seasons.

No, Villanova has not hosted any of the NCAA games at the Wells Fargo Center, and they've only scheduled 3 games there every year it's an NCAA site.

In 2006, when it happened the first time, the A-10 conference was the host at the Wachovia/Wells Fargo Center.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament

In 2009, which is the time most of us remember because they went to the Final Four, St. Joe's was the host at the Wachovia/Wells Fargo Center.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament

In 2013, Temple was the host at the Wells Fargo Center, so it technically could have happened again but Nova got a #9 seed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament