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Marquette: What to expect from senior Juan Anderson

When I spoke to Castro Valley head coach Nick Jones three years ago about 18-year-old Juan Anderson, he couldn't stress enough that Marquette's newest top 100 recruit was a player who was able to adapt to his surroundings, work hard and could surprise with a versatile skill set capable of playing multiple positions when the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://pixel.wp.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=11905&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />

Source: Marquette: What to expect from senior Juan Anderson

Canned Goods n Ammo

Juan is an interesting player.

I can't really think of anything he does exceedingly well, but he's not horrible at any specific skill or area either.

His shooting percentages aren't particularly good, but his stroke is good, he seems to be able to get his shot off, so it's hard to say he's a straight up "bad shooter". (for a combo forward). Wash rinse and repeat for passing, rebounding, defense, ball handling, etc.

He seems to have decent skills in every area, and good athletic ability, but can't seem to translate that to actual basketball performance.

In theory, I'd like to see why put on some muscle and get a little stronger with the ball. His rebounding ability is one area where he is currently pretty good, and if he can score a couple of garbage baskets per game, it would go a long way to help his offensive efficiency. In theory, he could also guard 3 different positions on the floor, but I'm not sure that skill is particularly required on this roster.

If he could magically learn to shoot 33% or better from 3pt land, he could be a pretty good player, but I don't know that it's going to happen. The stroke looks pretty good, but he's never been very confident with it.

It will be cool to see him under another coach, and see if that changes anything for him. The potential is there, but he's got a ways to go to turn potential into production.







Nukem2

My take is that Juan tries way too hard to force tnings and not let the game come to him.  At times, he looks like the proverbial chicken with his head cut off.   

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on July 28, 2014, 10:36:51 AM





If he could magically learn to shoot 33% or better from 3pt land, he could be a pretty good player, but I don't know that it's going to happen. The stroke looks pretty good, but he's never been very confident with it.










I think Juan's confidence has always been fragile. As a sophomore on the Elite 8 team he almost always took a couple of 3s early. Good news if he hit one, but if he didn't he tended to disappear.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 28, 2014, 11:16:03 AM
I think Juan's confidence has always been fragile. As a sophomore on the Elite 8 team he almost always took a couple of 3s early. Good news if he hit one, but if he didn't he tended to disappear.

Ya, agree, which is why I have trouble calling him a "bad" shooter. We've seen him take and make some good shots, and he looks good doing it.

But, he's also hit iron, and then he never even feigns an attempt for the rest of the game. Tough to be a good shooter when you go 0-0 or 0-1 in a lot of games.

I wonder how his practices look.


bilsu

While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.

Texas Western

Quote from: bilsu on July 28, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.
I agree with this analysis. I sense he lacks confidence.

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on July 28, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.


Maybe he didn't get those minutes because he's not that good. 

TJ


Henry Sugar

When Juan runs, it looks like he's prancing down the court.

I cannot unsee it.
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

GGGG

It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

TJ

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 28, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  
If "I think given the chance and used appropriately he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year" is analysis, then your post is too.  And I tend to agree more with yours in this case.  There wasn't much in what we were able to see last year that indicates that his amazing talent was being held down by Buzz's wicked ways.  I grant that it's possible that he thrives under Wojo, but it's going to take more than just being "used appropriately."

Texas Western

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 28, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  
I don't think in the case of Juan  it is case of playing better with more minutes. He started out as a freshman on the right track. He played hard when he got some minutes and had a future.  I think the rotation thing with Buzz is what hurt his progression the last two years. The starting and then disappearing thing makes it very hard to get any momentum. That was the case for many players on the team. For example  It wasn't until later in the season that Todd actually got some consistent minutes. The natural progression last two years would have been for Juan to be Jamil's substitute gradually upping his minutes so by the time he was later in the junior year he would have been a nice player off the bench. 

The good news for him is that he will get some decent playing time in the non conference part of the schedule and hopefully he can be a veteran contributor when the conference season starts. 

esotericmindguy

"What to expect from senior Juan Anderson" should be the shortest article written by Paint Touches.

You should expect very little. Comparing him to Lockett is a joke. The only thing he does well is rebound, Lockett came in after leading his previous team in scoring. Watching him on offense is like watching my dog hump the pillow.

Will he play in front of Burton or JJJ? No. So that leaves another 12 MPG season. Maybe less if Cohen plays well. 

Henry Sugar

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 28, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

He's not good offensively. Juan's last two years he had an ORtg of 89 and 91 with role-player usage. Even with significant improvement, Juan's ceiling is that of an average offensive role-player. A huge part of the issue is that he can't hold on to the ball (TORate of roughly 23-24% the last two years). However, if he protected the ball better, his FG% is still poor.

It is highly unlikely he can increase both his usage and his efficiency.

Having said that, Juan can be good (not great) defensively. His defensive rebounding percentage is over 18% and his steal percentage was over 4% last year. Both are solid but not exceptional.

Juan fills a decent role defensively, especially on a team limited for size, but he really should not shoot much.
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

tower912

Nobody on this board wanted him on the floor last year and now the common theme is that he was misused by Buzz.     ::)
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 28, 2014, 03:16:30 PM

Maybe he didn't get those minutes because he's not that good. 

This is likely correct.

You have to produce to get minutes.

However, I have to wonder what he looks like in practice. Maybe I'm just being an optimist, but I still see potential to be a solid player. The physical skills seem to be there, but it hasn't translated into actual basketball production.

I don't think he's as far away as his stats make it look... but maybe I'm just being a homer.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Henry Sugar on July 28, 2014, 05:07:19 PM
He's not good offensively. Juan's last two years he had an ORtg of 89 and 91 with role-player usage. Even with significant improvement, Juan's ceiling is that of an average offensive role-player. A huge part of the issue is that he can't hold on to the ball (TORate of roughly 23-24% the last two years). However, if he protected the ball better, his FG% is still poor.

It is highly unlikely he can increase both his usage and his efficiency.

Having said that, Juan can be good (not great) defensively. His defensive rebounding percentage is over 18% and his steal percentage was over 4% last year. Both are solid but not exceptional.

Juan fills a decent role defensively, especially on a team limited for size, but he really should not shoot much.

Are their examples of guys who have increase usage and efficiency in the same season? Maybe Jake? Vander? Jerel? Jae?

Texas Western

Quote from: tower912 on July 28, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
Nobody on this board wanted him on the floor last year and now the common theme is that he was misused by Buzz.     ::)
It is July a time for everyone to be optimistic.

hdog1017


muwarrior69

Maybe Wojo can show these kids what they have been doing wrong and correct it. Perhaps all Juan needs is some encouragement and confidence to show his athletic talents. We'll see soon enough.

MarquetteDano

I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real boon to our rebounding.

tower912

Quote from: MarquetteDano on July 28, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real BOONE to our rebounding.
fify
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

bilsu

Quote from: MarquetteDano on July 28, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real boon to our rebounding.
I think 5 boards a game, if he is playing significant minutes would be a disappointment. I think Derrick Wilson would average 5 boards a game, if you started him at small forward and Juan should be able out rebound Derrick.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: bilsu on July 28, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
I think 5 boards a game, if he is playing significant minutes would be a disappointment. I think Derrick Wilson would average 5 boards a game, if you started him at small forward and Juan should be able out rebound Derrick.

I guess I don't expect him to play huge minutes.  He averaged 3.3 boards in 13.5 minutes.  If you figure he averages 18 minutes I think 5 boards would be better than his average per minute played last year.

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