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4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

muwarrior69

Quote from: Daniel on June 18, 2014, 11:52:55 PM
I think we need to give Wojo at least 90 days before the surrender flag goes up.

Wow! That's tougher than Chicos' five year assessment period to evaluate a coach.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on June 19, 2014, 12:26:13 PM
Right, we haven't seen it yet.

So what definitive evidence do you have to declare that the "transition into a new system isn't going to be pretty"?

Well why do freshmen usually need time to develop? Plenty of times the argument is "they need time to get adjusted to the system" same reason we all thought last year was gonna be amazing, because we had loads of experience who all knew the system (turns out it was a pretty poor system).  Not saying it can't be pretty by the time the season comes along, especially since now there's summer practice that there wasn't before.  But in the end we have all but two players and one red shirt who have spent time studying other movements that need to be forgotten or adapted. 
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Dawson Rental

You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Your user name continues to be the an awesome example of truth in advertising.

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on June 18, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
Talk about a culture change and a much needed one for a program with 8 straight NCAA tournaments and 3 straight Sweet 16's, a high graduation rate and a bevy of NBA players.  

Too bad Larry Williams couldn't have weathered the storm as Coach Wojo would have been a perfect fit for his ego and his dream of having true student athletes that all carry a minimum 3.0 GPA to stay eligible on the team.  I'm confident this bunch will represent the school so well in their 2016 NIT birth.

Hopefully we can next entice a couple "sleepers" from Sheboygan with offers that just last week had coaches from Beloit College looking at them in case they didn't get Div I offers from UW-Stevens Point and Winona State.

Don't worry Coach Wojo about next year however with your roster of 8 top 100 players coming out of high school (Juan, Duane, Deonte, Fischer, Taylor Jr., JJJ, Carlino & Cohen).....the board already has it labeled as a rebuilding year so don't worry about wins and NCAA tournaments until you get your kind of player in place by 2016.  By then we'll get that NIT at large birth and our squeaky clean program will be the delight of the big donors who rather have have image over victories.  
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Texas Western

Wojo is trying to build an in state presence and he is also looking at guys who can shoot well. He has a whole bunch of young guys who are athletic on the team already, so the mix of the two should be pretty powerful.

Class71

Not one game played and we already know the outcome of the future of MU BB based on some very scientific research. Impressive.
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MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on June 18, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
Talk about a culture change and a much needed one for a program with 8 straight NCAA tournaments and 3 straight Sweet 16's, a high graduation rate and a bevy of NBA players.  

Too bad Larry Williams couldn't have weathered the storm as Coach Wojo would have been a perfect fit for his ego and his dream of having true student athletes that all carry a minimum 3.0 GPA to stay eligible on the team.  I'm confident this bunch will represent the school so well in their 2016 NIT birth.

Hopefully we can next entice a couple "sleepers" from Sheboygan with offers that just last week had coaches from Beloit College looking at them in case they didn't get Div I offers from UW-Stevens Point and Winona State.

Don't worry Coach Wojo about next year however with your roster of 8 top 100 players coming out of high school (Juan, Duane, Deonte, Fischer, Taylor Jr., JJJ, Carlino & Cohen).....the board already has it labeled as a rebuilding year so don't worry about wins and NCAA tournaments until you get your kind of player in place by 2016.  By then we'll get that NIT at large birth and our squeaky clean program will be the delight of the big donors who rather have have image over victories.  



Douchebag.

The only rebuttal this troll deserves.
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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 19, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Well why do freshmen usually need time to develop? Plenty of times the argument is "they need time to get adjusted to the system" same reason we all thought last year was gonna be amazing, because we had loads of experience who all knew the system (turns out it was a pretty poor system).  Not saying it can't be pretty by the time the season comes along, especially since now there's summer practice that there wasn't before.  But in the end we have all but two players and one red shirt who have spent time studying other movements that need to be forgotten or adapted. 

So, you have no clue just like everybody else. It's basketball. Not deciphering nuclear codes.

And the reason incoming Freshmen take time to adjust is due to a step up in quality, speed, and athleticism of their opponents from the high school level. Your analogy doesn't work very well considering all but two Marquette players have played Division I basketball.

GGGG

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 19, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Well why do freshmen usually need time to develop? Plenty of times the argument is "they need time to get adjusted to the system" same reason we all thought last year was gonna be amazing, because we had loads of experience who all knew the system (turns out it was a pretty poor system). 


I never thought last year was going to "be amazing."  3 of the starting 5 from the year before was being replaced, and all three didn't have a replacement that was better.  That's not "the system's" fault.  They were overrated. 

The Sultan of Silly

I'm looking more and more like a prophet with each Wojo commitment.

Pretty sooner Creighton will look more urban than us.

🏀

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 01, 2014, 12:25:37 PM
I'm looking more and more like a prophet with each Wojo commitment.



You are also looking more and more like a douchebag.

Eat sh!t and die.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 01, 2014, 12:25:37 PM
I'm looking more and more like a prophet with each Wojo commitment.

Pretty sooner Creighton will look more urban than us.

I'll wait to see how they play.  Last year, Creighton won the Big East.  Wisconsin went to the Final Four.  Seems to me, the success of a team is how well the players play together and how good they are collectively.  Seems like you and ThatDude are having a few concerns the last few weeks on other factors.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 01, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
I'll wait to see how they play.  Last year, Creighton won the Big East.  Wisconsin went to the Final Four.  Seems to me, the success of a team is how well the players play together and how good they are collectively.  Seems like you and ThatDude are having a few concerns the last few weeks on other factors.

I agree. Let's wait and see. Hope anyone committed to being a Warrior is a huge success. The only thing worse than complaining about guys we haven't seen, though, is complaining about guys we have seen (low basketball IQs, bad shooters, non traditional, too JUCO, choking dogs, etc.) who are really, really good - you know, S16, E8, Big East regular season championship good. But no MU fan would ever do that...

avid1010

you can't play the way wojo described he wants to with a team that isn't athletic, so either he's full of crap, already scrapped his initial plan, or he feels a few role players with special skills fit nicely.  as much fun as message boards can be...all we can judge the guy on is wins vs. loses, and the way all the people in the program carry themselves.  i'd have no problem recruiting kids that some on here (out of ignorance) would refer to as thugs, but they wouldn't be thugs when they set foot on my campus.  buzz lost me a bit in that area...it was a fine line between a mentor and a bobby huggins...that friendship always bothered me a bit.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: avid1010 on July 01, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
you can't play the way wojo described he wants to with a team that isn't athletic, so either he's full of crap, already scrapped his initial plan, or he feels a few role players with special skills fit nicely.  as much fun as message boards can be...all we can judge the guy on is wins vs. loses, and the way all the people in the program carry themselves.  i'd have no problem recruiting kids that some on here (out of ignorance) would refer to as thugs, but they wouldn't be thugs when they set foot on my campus.  buzz lost me a bit in that area...it was a fine line between a mentor and a bobby huggins...that friendship always bothered me a bit.

Mike Deane was good buds with Hugs, not Buzz. His pal at Cincy is Mick Cronin.

martyconlonontherun

Never understood this boards fascination with race. Does it make a difference if we are recruiting a lumbering big guy like Dudley compared to this other lumbering center? The player is a borderline top 100. You sign him if you get the chance. You definitely don't want him headlining your class but there is plenty of room on this for a 6'11" guy that can shoot.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 01, 2014, 01:24:18 PM
I agree. Let's wait and see. Hope anyone committed to being a Warrior is a huge success. The only thing worse than complaining about guys we haven't seen, though, is complaining about guys we have seen (low basketball IQs, bad shooters, non traditional, too JUCO, choking dogs, etc.) who are really, really good - you know, S16, E8, Big East regular season championship good, NBA good.  But no MU fan would ever do that...

Ha - only thing I would add, otherwise very well played.

The Sultan of Silly

And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.

Texas Western

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.
I think this is a smart move on Wojo's part, nothing but upside for the University. Wally gets a chance to practice with the team this year and develop. It makes it possible to get his brother Henry and even if we don't, It may be entirely possible that MU will use a track and field scholarship on him in the 15-16 and 16-17 season.  Also remember, If this young man ends up making the US Olympic team, He will be listed as from Marquette.

LAZER

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.

So you don't want Henry Ellenson at MU?

Coleman

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.

Seriously, stop trolling and go back to your Badger board.

leever

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.

I seriously hope that you do not claim to be a Marquette fan, student or alum.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Texas Western on July 02, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
It may be entirely possible that MU will use a track and field scholarship on him in the 15-16 and 16-17 season.

They can't do that if he's on the basketball team, can they?  My recollection is that under NCAA rules there is a hierarchy of sports, and that an athlete's scholarship always counts against the highest sport in which he participates.  Football is at the top of that list, and basketball is second.  So, if he's on the basketball team and the track team, his scholarship will be charged against basketball.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.  Hell, someone will probably "correct" me even if I'm right...this is Scoop, after all.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
And add another wasted scholarship to Wally! 

Apparently we can only try to get star players on scholarship if we offer their entire family free college.

Word is out that Wojo is making MU all white and other schools will play that against us if we try to recruit players we had under Buzz.

What a complete disaster hire....making Marquette into a MCC program again.

The word is out? LOL.  He's going after players that fits his system, which includes kids that can shoot the ball.  Asian, white, black, hispanic, I don't think he gives a rip, can you lace them up and play his brand of ball. 

I've often been on this board not thrilled with taking the great athlete over the great basketball player WHEN the great athlete is lacking in some of the core traditional fundamentals of basketball.  I appreciate the value of athleticism, of course....it is needed and a must, but there is an awful lot to say about a kid that is fundamentally sound, can shoot the ball well, hit his free throws, plays position defense, boxes out, understand angles, etc.  Landing kids that can do all these things is ideal.

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