More UNC Academic News

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Didnt see this posted...

This kind of thing pretty much killed the momentum Minnesota built in their BBall program with Clem Haskins -- interesting to see if anything happens since it is a 'blue blood'.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11036924/former-north-carolina-basketball-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

[brandx]

Well, at the crux of one of the lawsuits is whether these are students or employees of the university. This leaves little doubt.

They are brought to campus for the sole purpose of earning money - only is is for the school, not for themselves. And I think we are all smart enough to realize that if the same investigation was done at every D1 school, the same scenario would play out over and over again.

If, as Chicos says, these scholarships are so valuable, they would be given to kids who would at least make an attempt to use them for their stated purpose, which is to get an education.

[GGGG]

Didnt see this posted...

This kind of thing pretty much killed the momentum Minnesota built in their BBall program with Clem Haskins -- interesting to see if anything happens since it is a 'blue blood'.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11036924/former-north-carolina-basketball-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

I'm going to wait to hear someone other than McCants to believe this story.  McCants has ripped Williams repeatedly since he got out of UNC.

[keefe]

I'm going to wait to hear someone other than McCants to believe this story.  McCants has ripped Williams repeatedly since he got out of UNC.

Ol' Roy is nothing like the aw shucks country boy image he projects. Far from it.

[GGGG]

I don't doubt it.  I just don't think McCants is a terribly reliable source.

[brandx]

I'm going to wait to hear someone other than McCants to believe this story.  McCants has ripped Williams repeatedly since he got out of UNC.

Been there / done that

How about Mary Willingham?

http://kentsterling.com/2014/06/06/uncs-rashad-mccants-backs-up-mary-willinghams-claims-of-academic-fraud-at-unc/

[GGGG]

But Willingham never asserted (that I recall) that Williams knew and orchestrated what went on.  Now I might be wrong about that.  And he may have indeed done so.  I just think McCants isn't terribly credible.

[Celtic Truth]

Hopefully all the negative press makes Diamond Stone take unc off of his list

[brandx]

But Willingham never asserted (that I recall) that Williams knew and orchestrated what went on.  Now I might be wrong about that.  And he may have indeed done so.  I just think McCants isn't terribly credible.

I believe you are correct about Willingham / Williams.

Willingham revealed that UNC had for years steered football/basketball players into fake classes that never met. She said that the academic advisers did so as a way of keeping the athletes eligible to play. The former chairman of UNC's black-studies department is under criminal indictment in the scandal. North Carolina has acknowledged—and apologized for the corruption but insists that it was "academic" in nature, rather than "athletic."

Yup, I'm sure they did this for all students

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, at the crux of one of the lawsuits is whether these are students or employees of the university. This leaves little doubt.

They are brought to campus for the sole purpose of earning money - only is is for the school, not for themselves. And I think we are all smart enough to realize that if the same investigation was done at every D1 school, the same scenario would play out over and over again.

If, as Chicos says, these scholarships are so valuable, they would be given to kids who would at least make an attempt to use them for their stated purpose, which is to get an education.

Please, stop.  I can tell you first hand at MU our kids were going to class every day when I was there in the department, going to study hall, etc.  They had no choice.  Tom Ford was awesome along with his staff. Don't do it, you're off the team.  Most of them benefited from it in the long term.

Don't paint with such a broad brush on this.  There are always going to be kids that don't want to go to school, many of them aren't basketball players by the way.  They are forced to go, so what.  That's part of the exchange...you're there to do more than just play ball.  And for all those that crap out in the game and have a degree to fall back on, it has saved their bacon.

Are you truly saying these scholarships don't have value, because that's what you are implying.  For most, they do, whether they realize it or not when they are immature and naive at age 19 and in total primma donna mode.

[rocket surgeon]

when i was at marquette, larry hatchett took a heavier class load than i.  i was in pre-med/pre-dent.  he was in all of those classes plus engineering i believe...oh yeah and he was on the basketball team.  i doubt he had someone else taking his organic chem and biochem tests for him.  didn't see much of oliver lee though

[keefe]

Tom Ford was awesome

I believe Tom Ford continues to build on that tradition of excellence in all his endeavors

[rocket surgeon]

I believe Tom Ford continues to build on that tradition of excellence in all his endeavors

yikes!!  talk about focus on the object that is being marketed here.  i would put that in the category of, can you say, attention grabbing?  sure you can

[keefe]

As reported in Bloomberg

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-06/new-evidence-of-academic-fraud-at-unc

[Texas Western]

Carolina will make the adjustment necessary to deal with all of this. I think if you peel the onion at other blue bloods you will find some of the same things.