Noskowiak recruiting Ellenson

[real chili 83]

Advising someone you don't know, and have never met, about what they *should* do is dumb.

Unless of course it is a politician.   

Ducks, and barely avoids the ban hammer.

[GGGG]

Unless of course it is a politician.   

Ducks, and barely avoids the ban hammer.

Haven't you created enough chaos in this thread already?

[Lennys Tap]

Keep in mind this last season was Buzz's most experienced team as well.

Last year's team returned the fewest minutes at point guard (457) of any of Buzz's teams. Previous minutes returned at basketball's most important position? 1264 (Elite 8), 712 (S16), 803 (S16), 536 (first round NCAA loss) and 1527 (round of 32 with 1100 of those 1527 minutes out with injury).

Last year's team returned the 2nd fewest minutes overall at the guard positions (988) of any of Buzz's teams. Previous minutes returned at college basketball's most important positions? 2904 (Elite 8), 2524 (S16), 1812 (S16), 832 (first round NCAA loss) and 4190 (round of 32 with 1100 minutes out at point guard).

Last year we returned Derrick, Todd and Jake at guard, our weakest returning group (along with Mo and Cubillan) in the Buzz era. In addition, JFB, DJO, Lazar and Buycks from that group were tougher and better than Jamil, Davante and Juan. We underachieved last year. No doubt about that. But people like you who believed the hype did so because you delved as deep in your preseason analysis as opposing coaches. (who spend 5 minutes and really couldn't care less).

This year we return 1332 minutes at the point guard position and 2330 minutes total at guard. In addition, Duane Wilson is healthy and a double digit scorer (Carlino) has transferred in. We should be much, much better in the backcourt this season given the experience and the additions. Weaker in the front court, yes, but as Chico says, it's a guards game. Given that we should be solidly better this year.

[MDMU04]

So...how did Henry's visit go on Saturday?

[Skatastrophy]

So...how did Henry's visit go on Saturday?

P.good. He was impressed with MUScoop & our willingness to go above and beyond criticizing our current and future Student Athletes.

[Tugg Speedman]

Advising someone you don't know, and have never met, about what they *should* do is dumb.

This is entire place is dedicated to the art of telling people we know nothing about what they should do ... advising recruits on where they should go to school, players how to play the game, coaches how to coach, the administration on how to run the University, etc.

Restated, it is a message board!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

P.good. He was impressed with MUScoop & our willingness to go above and beyond criticizing our current and future Student Athletes.

Well played.

[real chili 83]

Haven't you created enough chaos in this thread already?

Guilty as charged.

[ChicosBailBonds]

He is in no hurry, trimming list in August.

http://zagsblog.com/articles/five-star-power-forward-ellenson-plans-to-trim-list-in-august/#more-118047

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Life is so much better as a third party watching. I wish I figured this out before

[NersEllenson]

Last year's team returned the fewest minutes at point guard (457) of any of Buzz's teams. Previous minutes returned at basketball's most important position? 1264 (Elite 8), 712 (S16), 803 (S16), 536 (first round NCAA loss) and 1527 (round of 32 with 1100 of those 1527 minutes out with injury).

Last year's team returned the 2nd fewest minutes overall at the guard positions (988) of any of Buzz's teams. Previous minutes returned at college basketball's most important positions? 2904 (Elite 8), 2524 (S16), 1812 (S16), 832 (first round NCAA loss) and 4190 (round of 32 with 1100 minutes out at point guard).

Last year we returned Derrick, Todd and Jake at guard, our weakest returning group (along with Mo and Cubillan) in the Buzz era. In addition, JFB, DJO, Lazar and Buycks from that group were tougher and better than Jamil, Davante and Juan. We underachieved last year. No doubt about that. But people like you who believed the hype did so because you delved as deep in your preseason analysis as opposing coaches. (who spend 5 minutes and really couldn't care less).

This year we return 1332 minutes at the point guard position and 2330 minutes total at guard. In addition, Duane Wilson is healthy and a double digit scorer (Carlino) has transferred in. We should be much, much better in the backcourt this season given the experience and the additions. Weaker in the front court, yes, but as Chico says, it's a guards game. Given that we should be solidly better this year.

I am glad to learn that you too agree PG is the most important position on the basketball floor, and I assume you also believe, without a decent one, you are screwed. Yet Buzz was hell bent on trying to prove he could win (assuming he really wanted to win last season which is very fair to call into question given all that has come out since his departure) with a severely challenged PG who he said caused the team to play 4 on 5!  Brilliant Buzz.

As for the "returning" 1332 minutes at PG - I believe about 932 of those minutes will be a moot point...as that player won't see the floor a whole lot...and by virtue of that alone, next year's team stands a very good chance of being better - even though totally overmatched in the front court (as compared to last season.)

[bilsu]

We really do not know which Wilson Buzz was planning on playing the most last year. He ended up not having a choice.

[keefe]

We really do not know which Wilson Buzz was planning on playing the most last year. He ended up not having a choice.

Actually I disagree. Bert had a choice. It didn't work out well for him, the team and guys like Gardner.

[GGGG]

Again, if Dawson laid the turd of a game of 20 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 3 personal fouls...

LOL...so now Derrick played a "turd of a game" against UW?  Interesting, because after the game you said the following:

Derrick Wilson??  What can you say?  He defended the hell out of 4 year player who is First Team All American.

And this...

Kudos to Derrick Wilson.  Such a tough defender.  Very impressive for a freshman. 

Face it, you are now downplaying Derrick Wilson's ability *in that game* because it doesn't fit your current narrative.  I am struggling to figure out why anyone should take you seriously on this topic when you can't even be consistent with yourself.

[NotBuzzWilliams]

P.good. He was impressed with MUScoop & our willingness to go above and beyond criticizing our current and future Student Athletes.

[Dawson Rental]

Mod's can we split this thread? Keep the Ellenson stuff together, and Ners' little fantasy world in a separate thread?

Better yet, can we merge all of Ners' rants into a new Everlasting Craptistical Derrick Wilson thread?

Holy Shite!  Do you have any idea of the maintenance hours that would be involved?

[Dawson Rental]

Haven't you created enough chaos in this thread already?

Amen, brother!

[Dawson Rental]

LOL...so now Derrick played a "turd of a game" against UW?  Interesting, because after the game you said the following:


And this...


Face it, you are now downplaying Derrick Wilson's ability *in that game* because it doesn't fit your current narrative.  I am struggling to figure out why anyone should take you seriously on this topic when you can't even be consistent with yourself.

NAILED TO THE FLOOR!

[wadesworld]

LOL...so now Derrick played a "turd of a game" against UW?  Interesting, because after the game you said the following:


And this...


Face it, you are now downplaying Derrick Wilson's ability *in that game* because it doesn't fit your current narrative.  I am struggling to figure out why anyone should take you seriously on this topic when you can't even be consistent with yourself.

Hahaha. Friggin hilarious. Well done Sultan.

[NersEllenson]

LOL...so now Derrick played a "turd of a game" against UW?  Interesting, because after the game you said the following:


And this...


Face it, you are now downplaying Derrick Wilson's ability *in that game* because it doesn't fit your current narrative.  I am struggling to figure out why anyone should take you seriously on this topic when you can't even be consistent with yourself.

LOL - Nice Sultan.  Pretty sure you don't want to really play this game though.  Your early comments on Buzz, Jake, Gardner, DJ Newbill... and a litany of other opinions will end up with you having a sh$t ton of egg on your face....thought you would have had enough after your season long defense of Buzz last year...and well..we saw how that turned out. 

But to your points above....nobody denies Derrick played a good defensive game against Wisconsin...but...it is also undeniable that you and the other 5-7 morons here who last season swore up and down Derrick was the best option we had at point guard, and Buzz knows best, in Buzz I trust, Buzz's teams always get better as the season goes on...well...if Dawson had a game with 0, 0, and 3 PF's in 20 minutes of action, while holding his guy to say 8 points...it wouldn't have been trumpted here by you or the other clowns as being some holy grail type of performance.

[Galway Eagle]

LOL - Nice Sultan.  Pretty sure you don't want to really play this game though.  Your early comments on Buzz, Jake, Gardner, DJ Newbill... and a litany of other opinions will end up with you having a sh$t ton of egg on your face....thought you would have had enough after your season long defense of Buzz last year...and well..we saw how that turned out. 

But to your points above....nobody denies Derrick played a good defensive game against Wisconsin...but...it is also undeniable that you and the other 5-7 morons here who last season swore up and down Derrick was the best option we had at point guard, and Buzz knows best, in Buzz I trust, Buzz's teams always get better as the season goes on...well...if Dawson had a game with 0, 0, and 3 PF's in 20 minutes of action, while holding his guy to say 8 points...it wouldn't have been trumpted here by you or the other clowns as being some holy grail type of performance.

Ners after seeing those comments from before why don't you just say you were happy with Derrick's performance for where he was at that time but expected him to improve into a well rounded player by the time he was a junior and starting.  That way you save face on you being happy after that UW game and can still continue the constant complaining about Derrick last year. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

[GGGG]

LOL - Nice Sultan.  Pretty sure you don't want to really play this game though.  Your early comments on Buzz, Jake, Gardner, DJ Newbill... and a litany of other opinions will end up with you having a sh$t ton of egg on your face....thought you would have had enough after your season long defense of Buzz last year...and well..we saw how that turned out.  

But to your points above....nobody denies Derrick played a good defensive game against Wisconsin...but...it is also undeniable that you and the other 5-7 morons here who last season swore up and down Derrick was the best option we had at point guard, and Buzz knows best, in Buzz I trust, Buzz's teams always get better as the season goes on...well...if Dawson had a game with 0, 0, and 3 PF's in 20 minutes of action, while holding his guy to say 8 points...it wouldn't have been trumpted here by you or the other clowns as being some holy grail type of performance.

First, you can bring up any of my past posts at any time you wish.  I'm sure I have been wrong PLENTY of times.  However, I won't pretend my previous opinions didn't exist to fit a current narrative like you do.

Second, I said I was done with last year's Derrick/Dawson debate.  You said the same thing.  Unlike you, when I say I am done...I am done.  I'm not going to be baited back into it.

[real chili 83]

LOL - Nice Sultan.  Pretty sure you don't want to really play this game though.  Your early comments on Buzz, Jake, Gardner, DJ Newbill... and a litany of other opinions will end up with you having a sh$t ton of egg on your face....thought you would have had enough after your season long defense of Buzz last year...and well..we saw how that turned out.  

But to your points above....nobody denies Derrick played a good defensive game against Wisconsin...but...it is also undeniable that you and the other 5-7 morons here who last season swore up and down Derrick was the best option we had at point guard, and Buzz knows best, in Buzz I trust, Buzz's teams always get better as the season goes on...well...if Dawson had a game with 0, 0, and 3 PF's in 20 minutes of action, while holding his guy to say 8 points...it wouldn't have been trumpted here by you or the other clowns as being some holy grail type of performance.

Ners,

Since I'm the one who got you going on this rant (again), next time you are in Mpls, let me know. JayBee and I will hold a séance with you to help you exorcise this demon!    But you will have to buy.  

Just givin' you some sheet.  

[GGGG]

Ners,

Since I'm the one who got you going on this rant (again), next time you are in Mpls, let me know. JayBee and I will hold a séance with you to help you exercise this demon!     But you will have to buy. 

Just givin' you some sheet. 

I hope you mean "exorcise."  We don't need his Derrick Demon getting any stronger!