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Author Topic: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?  (Read 13458 times)

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2014, 08:42:14 PM »
I don't see any downside to this.  It does reinforce the B10's desire to grow their brand in the northeast but that really isn't a problem for the BE.

Agree completely.  The Big Ten is already in the majority of the markets that the Big East is in, other than Providence, especially with the addition of Maryland and Rutgers.  They already are in the metro markets, and in many cases already have a big presence in that market so they aren't gaining anything in terms of recruiting.  For the Big East though, and just as importantly, Fox Sports 1, this is big.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2014, 09:32:21 PM »
Fox sports will make this work, they are masters at working their way into new ventures. NFL being the prime example, they came into it rolling and never looked back. That's why we have to hold off judgment on the state of the BE. We are going to get a lot of exposure as they build their brand.
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2014, 09:46:07 PM »
Big East Record vs. the Big Ten in 2013:
Butler: 1-0 (Purdue)
Creighton: 1-0 (Nebraska)
DePaul: 1-0 (Northwestern)
Georgetown: 1-0 (Michigan State)
Marquette: 0-2 (Ohio State, Wisconsin)
Providence: 0-0
Seton Hall: 1-0 (Rutgers)
St. John's: 0-2 (Penn State, Wisconsin)
Villanova: 1-0 (Iowa)
Xavier: 0-1 (Iowa)

So 6-5 this season, which isn't too bad, should be interesting at least.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2014, 10:08:26 PM »
The other problem I see is that the Big Ten gets much better visibility by playing in the BE home cities than vice versa.  

Its not like the Big East teams will gain much through visits to destination like Lincoln, Urbana, or West Lafayette. Meanwhile, the Big Ten will get to add marquee destinations in talent-rich markets like Chicago, Indianapolis and New York.  

Marquette will get a ton of visibility from playing at MSU or U of M. Lots of good recruits in those markets that we can showcase in front of.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2014, 06:54:50 AM »
Your numbers are off

Which game(s) did I miss?

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2014, 08:50:43 AM »
The Big East has a deal on FS1 and (per Chicos) Fox owns 51% of the Big Ten Network.


Dude... why quote Chicos when there's another internets source that is notoriously more reputable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Network

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2014, 09:49:43 AM »
Big East Record vs. the Big Ten in 2013:
Butler: 1-0 (Purdue)
Creighton: 1-0 (Nebraska)
DePaul: 1-0 (Northwestern)
Georgetown: 1-0 (Michigan State)
Marquette: 0-2 (Ohio State, Wisconsin)
Providence: 0-0
Seton Hall: 1-0 (Rutgers)
St. John's: 0-2 (Penn State, Wisconsin)
Villanova: 1-0 (Iowa)
Xavier: 0-1 (Iowa)

So 6-5 this season, which isn't too bad, should be interesting at least.

If you are going to count Seton Hall's win over Rutgers, you have to count Providence's loss to Maryland.

So 6-6. So as you said, should be interesting.
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2014, 09:51:32 AM »
I thought the Big East was playing Big Ten, so it's the SEC.

When you factor in money, market population, and alumni base, the B1G is arguably the most powerful.
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2014, 11:48:37 AM »
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2014, 01:25:35 PM »

Dude... why quote Chicos when there's another internets source that is notoriously more reputable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Network



Come on now, that's not nice.

I may have been quite involved in the first deal for BTN and may know a bit about how they operate.  May.   ;)

I wouldn't use Wiki, here's one

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2011/09/01/College-Football-Preview/College-Football-Media-Notes.aspx

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2014, 01:25:51 PM »
Which game(s) did I miss?

Rutgers wasn't in the Big Ten last year

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2014, 01:36:41 PM »
I'm excited about this only as long as the Big East is competitive.  If it can't be, I don't want to get our butts handed to us every year.  This past year, it would have been ugly.  The Big East has to step things up a lot to make this a good series year in and year out.  

I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2014, 02:09:39 PM »
It might have to do with the B1G TV deal coming up.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2014, 02:13:25 PM »
It might have to do with the B1G TV deal coming up.


Pretty much everything the B10 does like this needs to be looked at through that lens.  They are increasing their presence in the northeast, and perhaps putting pressure on ESPN when the B10's television contract ends at the end of 2015-16.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2014, 02:15:20 PM »
Hope they dont play Illinois. I would have some major problems watching either of those teams lose.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2014, 09:05:04 AM »
I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?

3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.

Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2014, 09:16:18 AM »
3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.

Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.

There's no room for your sound logic and reason around here, Hoya.  Back to the Lyceum with you.
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2014, 09:26:33 AM »
3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.

Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.


Furthermore, they had been getting their ass handed to them for years in the ACC challenge.  Now they are beginning to show the upper hand.

Why would they be looking for intentionally weak conferences *now*?

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2014, 09:34:39 AM »
I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?

We went 5-5 against them last season (6-6 if you count Maryland and Rutgers). So it's not like they are getting 8 games that are auto victories for them
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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2014, 10:14:47 AM »
and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017

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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2014, 12:08:44 PM »
and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017

I mentioned this previously, and I heard on WFAN the Rock was trying to lure the Big10 Championship to Newark at some point.

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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2014, 12:09:32 PM »
and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017


I will point this out....that will be the first year of their new television contract.

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Re: Big East vs Big Ten Challenge at MSG?
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2014, 07:22:28 AM »
My money says our first game in this event is MU vs Northwestern.  Wojo vs Collins.

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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2014, 07:29:59 AM »
I mentioned this previously, and I heard on WFAN the Rock was trying to lure the Big10 Championship to Newark at some point.

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