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[PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« on: April 27, 2014, 09:15:08 AM »
What Matt Carlino means for Marquette

Steve Wojciechowski received the first recruit of his Marquette era when BYU graduate point guard Matt Carlino pledged his commitment to the Golden Eagles, made official Friday afternoon. The 6-foot-2 point guard will have one season of eligibility remaining when he arrives on campus after graduating from BYU this spring. It’ll be the fourth school Carlino’s been attached to […]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=11761&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 09:30:57 AM »
"But now the point guard position is set with Carlino, Derrick Wilson and Dawson; at shooting guard Todd Mayo, Jajuan Johnson and Todd Mayo should secure the rotation, while incoming freshman Sandy Cohen and Deonte Burton should fill out a three-guard offense well"
WHY no mention of Duane Wilson.  Aside from Burton Duane is the guy I'm most excited to see play next year.  I agree that we need a proven outside shooter but I was really hoping that Duane would have a real shot at starters minutes at the point.  Maybe the thought is that they play 2 point guards  like UConn did.  It worked for them.
I just don't see why Duane isn't at the top of everyone's list certainly not left out. 

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 09:33:13 AM »
You beat me to it Nota.  Where's DuWil in the article?  I'm expecting him to play a lot, at both guard positions.
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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 09:34:25 AM »
Typo - Mayo is listed twice at SG.  The second time should have been Duane

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 09:41:37 AM »
I know Duane was a big time recruit, but I think we are collectively expecting more out of him than he will realistically deliver next year. 

Why would you expect him to get starters minutes...or play a lot?  He is a freshman coming off an injury with a number of talented and/or experienced players in front of him.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014, 09:50:58 AM »
I know Duane was a big time recruit, but I think we are collectively expecting more out of him than he will realistically deliver next year. 

Why would you expect him to get starters minutes...or play a lot?  He is a freshman coming off an injury with a number of talented and/or experienced players in front of him.

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2014, 09:51:40 AM »

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 09:58:20 AM »
I'm surprised there were reports or him not being that good in practice last year.   As I saw him in high school I thought he had a skill set that would transfer very well to the college game.

Hopefully he picks it up.

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 10:07:31 AM »

Answer the question then.

The services pretty much had him equal with Burton coming out of HS although at different positions.  He was very good in High School, better from what I read than Cohen.  Besides the kid seems like a natural leader based on his comments both in interviews and tweets during the coaching change.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2014, 10:35:05 AM »
The services pretty much had him equal with Burton coming out of HS although at different positions.  He was very good in High School, better from what I read than Cohen.  Besides the kid seems like a natural leader based on his comments both in interviews and tweets during the coaching change.


So essentially you expected him to get starters minutes because of his potential.

But really when is the last time a highly rated prospect has lived up to the potential that Scoopers have placed on them?

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2014, 11:08:17 AM »
Expectations! Have reasonable ones.

The first question you have to ask is do you think Duane will be able to beat out Carlino or Mayo for their starters' jobs? I'm guessing from most people the answer is no. So he will get backup minutes next season.

The second question you have to ask is do you think Duane will be able to beat out Derrick, Dawson, Cohen, and Johnson? I'm guessing that most people think yes to Derrick, Dawson, and Cohen. No to Johnson. So he will have a place in the rotation.

The other thing to keep in mind is that we will never have less than 3 guards on the floor at a time. Many times we will have 4. So the SF position becomes a WG (wing guard) position instead. The starter for this position will come out of the Dawson, Cohen, Johnson, and Duane crew.

PG: Carlino/Derrick
SG: Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson/Cohen
WG: Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson/Cohen
PF: Burton/Anderson
C: Fischer/Taylor

Personally, I think we will see Mayo and Johnson starting at the two guard positions with Duane being their primary backup. Dawson and Cohen will get spot minutes when their skill set is called for.

But these predictions, mine and everyone else's, are based on very limited information. Duane and Cohen have yet to play a game of college ball so NO ONE knows how good they will be. Dawson and Johnson didn't get meaningful minutes last season, so it's hard to project how good they are. So it is entirely possible for Duane to come in and be the second coming of Dominic James. But is it a reasonable expectation? No.
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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2014, 11:51:19 AM »
Duane was recovering from injuries last year, so that would have effected his practice play. However, in watching him play in pro am he was not anywhere near as good as Burton was in the pro am. The pro am favors whoever has the ball in his hands, which is usually the player bringing the ball up the floor. Duane was a nice player, but Burton dominated the pro am. They may of been rated pretty much equal, but there was no question who was the better player in the pro am. Burton was better by a long run. Duane's biggest asset is his quickness.

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2014, 11:54:11 AM »
After watching Carlino sit on the bench the whole second half, Duane Wilson will,have all the opportunity to start.  Carlino might be a good sub

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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 11:57:40 AM »
Expectations! Have reasonable ones.

The first question you have to ask is do you think Duane will be able to beat out Carlino or Mayo for their starters' jobs? I'm guessing from most people the answer is no. So he will get backup minutes next season.

The second question you have to ask is do you think Duane will be able to beat out Derrick, Dawson, Cohen, and Johnson? I'm guessing that most people think yes to Derrick, Dawson, and Cohen. No to Johnson. So he will have a place in the rotation.

The other thing to keep in mind is that we will never have less than 3 guards on the floor at a time. Many times we will have 4. So the SF position becomes a WG (wing guard) position instead. The starter for this position will come out of the Dawson, Cohen, Johnson, and Duane crew.

PG: Carlino/Derrick
SG: Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson/Cohen
WG: Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson/Cohen
PF: Burton/Anderson
C: Fischer/Taylor

Personally, I think we will see Mayo and Johnson starting at the two guard positions with Duane being their primary backup. Dawson and Cohen will get spot minutes when their skill set is called for.

But these predictions, mine and everyone else's, are based on very limited information. Duane and Cohen have yet to play a game of college ball so NO ONE knows how good they will be. Dawson and Johnson didn't get meaningful minutes last season, so it's hard to project how good they are. So it is entirely possible for Duane to come in and be the second coming of Dominic James. But is it a reasonable expectation? No.

I was never a big Dominic James fan. He wasn't a good shooter from distance and as his career went on he became more of a chucker that Crean wouldn't or couldn't reign in. I think Duane is a much better shooter and as long as he doesn't try to do too much, could end up being a better all-around player than James.
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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 02:12:34 PM »
I was never a big Dominic James fan. He wasn't a good shooter from distance and as his career went on he became more of a chucker that Crean wouldn't or couldn't reign in. I think Duane is a much better shooter and as long as he doesn't try to do too much, could end up being a better all-around player than James.

You think a guy who you have never seen play a minute of college basketball play is a better shooter and could be a better player overall than one of the best point guards ever to play at Marquette?  Interesting.

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2014, 02:18:36 PM »
You think a guy who you have never seen play a minute of college basketball play is a better shooter and could be a better player overall than one of the best point guards ever to play at Marquette?  Interesting.

Respect the process.

That's how it works around here.  Before you log your first minute, we worry that you'll leave early for the draft.  See Erik Williams, JJJ, Jamil.  Then you play that first minute and the bubble bursts.

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2014, 02:32:34 PM »
You think a guy who you have never seen play a minute of college basketball play is a better shooter and could be a better player overall than one of the best point guards ever to play at Marquette?  Interesting.

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2014, 02:59:53 PM »
You think a guy who you have never seen play a minute of college basketball play is a better shooter and could be a better player overall than one of the best point guards ever to play at Marquette?  Interesting.

Respect the process.

I am a huge fan of Dom James but I wouldn't put him in the MU Top 5 PGs.



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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2014, 03:07:38 PM »
After watching Carlino sit on the bench the whole second half, Duane Wilson will,have all the opportunity to start.  Carlino might be a good sub

Sit on the bench? You are aware that Matt Carlino averaged close to 30 mins a game right? He also only got less than 20 minutes game exactly 3 times. 19 minutes against Pepperdine at the beginning of conference season, 19 minutes against Gonzaga, and 15 minutes against Santa Clara. BYU also got into the NCAA tournament after a big winning streak where they won 10 of 11 and Carlino was the starter in all of those games.

Don't put too much stock in the articles from BYU about the transfer. It is simply local media trying to paint it in a positive light to appease the fans.
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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2014, 03:14:13 PM »
I just watched the Pepperdine game, was awful, did not play last 15 minutes of that game, glad he played better, just saying there is an open competition for playing time.

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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2014, 03:14:29 PM »
I am a huge fan of Dom James but I wouldn't put him in the MU Top 5 PGs.

DJ is absolutely one of MU's all-time top 5 PGs. Especially when you consider he was a four year starter on some very good teams.


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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2014, 03:20:10 PM »
I am a huge fan of Dom James but I wouldn't put him in the MU Top 5 PGs.



I would say best defensive pg at MU I had seen in person and easily best defensive player those teams - easily better than Rel. He was much better than fans seem to give him credit for. Sure he couldn't shoot but the rest of his game was extremely solid if not fantastic.
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Re: [PaintTouches]What Matt Carlino means for Marquette
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 03:39:10 PM »
Can someone serious please explain the infatuation with Duane playing the 2? I dont get it, I dont see it, hes never played the 2 in his entire life and hes only about 6'1"

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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2014, 03:46:23 PM »
I would say best defensive pg at MU I had seen in person and easily best defensive player those teams - easily better than Rel. He was much better than fans seem to give him credit for. Sure he couldn't shoot but the rest of his game was extremely solid if not fantastic.

Dom was great at MU but The Dream, Lucky Lloyd, Doc, Sudden Sam, and Smith would have made him cry. The Dream is still talked about on the NYC asphalt.


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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2014, 03:48:32 PM »
You think a guy who you have never seen play a minute of college basketball play is a better shooter and could be a better player overall than one of the best point guards ever to play at Marquette?  Interesting.

Respect the process.

First of all I said he COULD be better if he plays within his game. Translation, he could be worse too. I just don't have a lot of love for a PG that launched a lot of errant shots when there were better shooters on the team.
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