Doc and the Clips

[avid1010]

in a unfortunate spot...gave a classy interview.  will be interesting to see how he handles it.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhU41rrrSL8

[ecc5051]

More background on Doc's comments.
http://nba.si.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-nba-investigation-racist-comments-clippers/?eref=sihp

[Avenue Commons]

Sterling is a clown. He needs to go for a lot of reasons. His actions as a slum lord were far worse than racist comments.

[avid1010]

nba has to suspend him right?  would be priceless to see the commissioner have to hand the o'brien trophy over to that tool.  

[4everwarriors]

So, Doc's gonna respect the process, aina?

[radome]

Doc's son Jeremiah tweeted "Along with anything we ever loved, and held treasured, because of the color of my dads skin. We lost everything and had to start over" in a very eloquent response posted below. What happened to Doc and his family? Was it when he was in Atlanta or Boston? Somethings I will never understand. I don't approve of theft but at least I understand the desire to want. I don't understand racism and vandalism. I guess that it is just learned hatred or anger. 53 years old and still trying to figure out the world. Sad. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/04/26/doc-rivers-son-has-best-response-to-donald-sterlings-comments/

[ThatDude]

This thread does not do this situation any justice.  Should be a lot more angry people voicing their opinion.

Both the Clips and Warriors should boycott tomorrow!

[77ncaachamps]

This thread does not do this situation any justice.  Should be a lot more angry people voicing their opinion.

Both the Clips and Warriors should boycott tomorrow!

I concur!

[JWags85]

Doc's son Jeremiah tweeted "Along with anything we ever loved, and held treasured, because of the color of my dads skin. We lost everything and had to start over" in a very eloquent response posted below. What happened to Doc and his family? Was it when he was in Atlanta or Boston? Somethings I will never understand. I don't approve of theft but at least I understand the desire to want. I don't understand racism and vandalism. I guess that it is just learned hatred or anger. 53 years old and still trying to figure out the world. Sad. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/04/26/doc-rivers-son-has-best-response-to-donald-sterlings-comments/

Didn't Doc's house get burned down when he was in San Antonio cause people approve of his wife being white?  I think that's what he's referring to.

[GGGG]

It's premature to boycott anything.

If the NBA refuses to do anything, that's when you boycott.

[Niv Berkowitz]

Ummmm, the nba and espn and everyone with anything to do with the NBA have knows for YEARS Sterling is a racist. Now, it's just more out in the open.

Spare me the sanctimony ESPN and NBA. You've known forever. Now, you just have an easy excuse to "do something".

[GGGG]

Ummmm, the nba and espn and everyone with anything to do with the NBA have knows for YEARS Sterling is a racist. Now, it's just more out in the open.

Spare me the sanctimony ESPN and NBA. You've known forever. Now, you just have an easy excuse to "do something".

Right.

But Doc Rivers knew it....Chris Paul knew it...  But they all went there anyway. 

[LloydMooresLegs]

Whomever allegedly "knew" whatever, if the recording is of Sterling's voice (and the non-denial denial by Sterling spokesman leads to that conclusion:  "Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with...his views...."  -- instead, if it isn't Sterling, why not just say "It wasn't me"?? [#Shaggy]), then his racist views now are undeniable and public, and consequences should follow.  And while I don't believe that the players should be pressured into a self-punishing boycott during the playoffs, I sure would support that --and holy cr@p would that bring the issue to a head right now.  Either way, this sleazeball should be finished in the NBA.

[4everwarriors]

There ain't gonna be no boycott. The old cocker signs the checks and can say what he wants. He'll just haveta suffer the consequences for his actions. Ain't that hard to figure out. Life goes on.

[GGGG]

Whomever allegedly "knew" whatever, if the recording is of Sterling's voice (and the non-denial denial by Sterling spokesman leads to that conclusion:  "Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with...his views...."  -- instead, if it isn't Sterling, why not just say "It wasn't me"?? [#Shaggy]), then his racist views now are undeniable and public, and consequences should follow.  And while I don't believe that the players should be pressured into a self-punishing boycott during the playoffs, I sure would support that --and holy cr@p would that bring the issue to a head right now.  Either way, this sleazeball should be finished in the NBA.

What issue would it bring to a head?  That Sterling is a sh*t of a human being?  No kidding.

Let the process play out.  Let the NBA investigate and do what is within their power.  If the players don't like it, then they can boycott.  Doing it now is pointless.  They would simply be overplaying their hand.

[ThatDude]

Right.

But Doc Rivers knew it....Chris Paul knew it...  But they all went there anyway.  

Highly doubt they knew.  Blacks have too much pride for that

[GGGG]

Highly doubt they knew.  Black have too much pride for that

Uhhh....what?

Sterling has a well documented history of racist comments.  I knew it.  I'm sure Doc or Paul, or at least their representatives, did as well.

[ThatDude]

Uhhh....what?

Sterling has a well documented history of racist comments.  I knew it.  I'm sure Doc or Paul, or at least their representatives, did as well.

You sir are wrong...they may have heard a rumor, yea

[Tugg Speedman]

It gets worse today ...

Holy crap, this sounds like the slave owner from 1858 talking about the plantation.  

Jalen Rose said given today's comments he would boycott the game.  Don't know if that will happen but I can understand his anger.

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http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-extended-donald-sterling-tape-1568291249

In this audio, Sterling expresses ideas similar to the ones he did in the original: The world will think certain things if you're seen with black people, he tells his mistress, so you should not be seen with them in public, and under no circumstances should you bring them to Clippers games. How does he square his dim view of black people with the fact that he has an NBA team full of black players? Sterling responds with a breathtaking non-sequitur.

   V: I don't understand, I don't see your views. I wasn't raised the way you were raised.

   DS: Well then, if you don't feel—don't come to my games. Don't bring black people, and don't come.

   V: Do you know that you have a whole team that's black, that plays for you?

   DS: You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?

Poor Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp is also dragged into the conversation, having appeared in an Instagram photo with V. Stiviano. It was her photo with Magic Johnson that had apparently started the fight.

   V: Honey, if it makes you happy, I will remove all of the black people from my Instagram.

   DS: You said that before, you said, "I understand."

   V: I DID remove the people that were independently on my Instagram that are black.

   DS: Then why did you start saying that you didn't? You just said that you didn't remove them. You didn't remove every—

   V: I didn't remove Matt Kemp and Magic Johnson, but I thought—

   DS: Why?

   V: I thought Matt Kemp is mixed, and he was OK, just like me.

   DS: OK.

   V: He's lighter and whiter than me.

   DS: OK.

   V: I met his mother.

   DS: You think I'm a racist, and wouldn't—

   V: I don't think you're a racist.

   DS: Yes you do. Yes you do.

   V: I think you, you—

   DS: Evil heart.

And there is also this baffling exchange about black Jews in Israel:

   DS: It's the world! You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs.

   V: So do you have to treat them like that too?

   DS: The white Jews, there's white Jews and black Jews, do you understand?

   V: And are the black Jews less than the white Jews?

   DS: A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.

   V: And is that right?

   DS: It isn't a question—we don't evaluate what's right and wrong, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture.

   V: But shouldn't we take a stand for what's wrong? And be the change and the difference?

   DS: I don't want to change the culture, because I can't. It's too big and too [unknown].

   V: But you can change yourself.

   DS: I don't want to change. If my girl can't do what I want, I don't want the girl. I'll find a girl that will do what I want! Believe me. I thought you were that girl—because I tried to do what you want. But you're not that girl.

They close by essentially invoking Hitler and closing down the thread, comparing Sterling's viewpoints to the Holocaust:

   V: It's like saying, "Let's just persecute and kill all of the Jews."

   DS: Oh, it's the same thing, right?

   V: Isn't it wrong? Wasn't it wrong then? With the Holocaust? And you're Jewish, you understand discrimination.

   DS: You're a mental case, you're really a mental case. The Holocaust, we're comparing with—

   V: Racism! Discrimination.

   DS: There's no racism here. If you don't want to be... walking... into a basketball game with a certain... person, is that racism?

Remember that these aren't the unfortunate offhand comments of an old man. These are expressions of a worldview that Sterling has acted upon time and time again, with real effects on real people, with little to no response from the NBA or its players. The difference in this case is the visceral effect of actually hearing him say these things out loud and oh so matter-of-factly. It's enough for even an actor as careful as LeBron James to feel empowered to take a flamethrower to Sterling, saying, "There is no room for Donald Sterling in our league."

It is not known if the recordings have been doctored or altered.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Highly doubt they knew.  Blacks have too much pride for that

What are you talking about?  Many in So. Cal have known this for decades.  Current players, former players, people that rent from him.  They knew, it's an old dude with old time views.  The irony in this is the NAACP gave him a lifetime achievement award 6 years ago and in 3 weeks were about to give him another....obviously from donations that he made.  The Dems were giving him a bundling award next month for the money he has raised and helped bundle for their party....that's likely going to not happen either.  

Common thread....MONEY.  NAACP took money from him = lifetime achievement award.  Democrat party took money from him = bundling award.  Players and coaches....Sterling's money is green just like everyone else's.  They all know, they just turn a blind eye for the $$.

This happens all the time in the world.

[GGGG]

nm

[ChicosBailBonds]

You sir are wrong...they may have heard a rumor, yea

smh

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-donald-sterling-past-controversy-20140426,0,1205990.story#axzz307FiQnOo

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Highly doubt they knew.  Blacks have too much pride for that

And the award for Donald Sterling Post of the Year goes to...

[314warrior]

He's the owner.  What are they going to do?  Make him sell?  I doubt it, and I'm sure he'd make a ton of money selling his team.  Fine him $100k?  He won't care.  He seems like a terrible old racist, but he has a boat load of money.  If people stop going to the games or the players won't play for him, maybe they can threaten the teams value enough that he has to sell.  I feel bad for Doc and the players.

[Tums Festival]

Not too surprising Golden St. is killing the Clippers near the end of the 1st quarter.