Buzz Bashing

[bennymoore]

Seems to be a great deal of that around here and anyone who defends him is apparently a slurper.
In the tournament 5 of 6 years. 1 elite eight, 2 sweet sixteens.  People are saying he tanked this year.
Really? Going into the last week of the season Marquette was still clinging to NCAA hopes and lost 2 games in Double OT. Quite the elaborate plot.
This team was not that talented. Blame Buzz for that but not for tanking. As far as the sleaze factor, con man criticisms.  I don't disagree. But guess what, our new coach's former boss is one of the biggest con men in college basketball.  Duke cheats, everyone cheats. It's part of college athletics and to think otherwise is naïve. I appreciate Buzz for what he did. MU reached heights we hadn't reached in years. I appreciate the memories. Not sad to see him go but if you don't think Wojo will be bending rules like his boss, you are kidding yourself.

[Dawson Rental]

Seems to be a great deal of that around here and anyone who defends him is apparently a slurper.
In the tournament 5 of 6 years. 1 elite eight, 2 sweet sixteens.  People are saying he tanked this year.
Really? Going into the last week of the season Marquette was still clinging to NCAA hopes and lost 2 games in Double OT. Quite the elaborate plot.
This team was not that talented. Blame Buzz for that but not for tanking. As far as the sleaze factor, con man criticisms.  I don't disagree. But guess what, our new coach's former boss is one of the biggest con men in college basketball.  Duke cheats, everyone cheats. It's part of college athletics and to think otherwise is naïve. I appreciate Buzz for what he did. MU reached heights we hadn't reached in years. I appreciate the memories. Not sad to see him go but if you don't think Wojo will be bending rules like his boss, you are kidding yourself.

A brave first post.  You are to be commended for not playing the "I'm a first time poster here"' card.

[Norm]

Seems to be a great deal of that around here and anyone who defends him is apparently a slurper.
In the tournament 5 of 6 years. 1 elite eight, 2 sweet sixteens.  People are saying he tanked this year.
Really? Going into the last week of the season Marquette was still clinging to NCAA hopes and lost 2 games in Double OT. Quite the elaborate plot.
This team was not that talented. Blame Buzz for that but not for tanking. As far as the sleaze factor, con man criticisms.  I don't disagree. But guess what, our new coach's former boss is one of the biggest con men in college basketball.  Duke cheats, everyone cheats. It's part of college athletics and to think otherwise is naïve. I appreciate Buzz for what he did. MU reached heights we hadn't reached in years. I appreciate the memories. Not sad to see him go but if you don't think Wojo will be bending rules like his boss, you are kidding yourself.

Let me guess, North Carolina fan are you?

[Benny B]

A brave first post.  You are to be commended for not playing the "I'm a first time poster here"' card.

Possibly because he isn't a first time poster... just a new screen name.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Possibly because he isn't a first time poster... just a new screen name.

If you change screen name, I believe your post totals don't change.

[muhoops1]

If you change screen name, I believe your post totals don't change.

But if you create another, free account you appear as a first time poster.

[Silkk the Shaka]

But if you create another, free account you appear as a first time poster.

Don't give him any ideas!

[Marquette_g]

I've tried reading many of the posts supporting Buzz, but find it difficult, not because of the content, but rather due to the fact that many of the posters refuse to use carriage returns to make their text actually legible.

[tower912]

Anybody referencing the legendary 6'4 left handed shooting guard is OK in my book.   

[bennymoore]

I used to post here but stopped a long time ago.  Just a Marquette season ticket holder hoping for the best. Enjoy this board, Dodds board is a joke. Buzz drove me crazy this year but I don't think he tanked. I had more issues with Mayo's playing time than the freshmen.  Basic point is that coaches are snake oil salesmen.  Will Wojo better represent the University? Probably. Will he nudge players out the door? Yep. Will things happen that are covered up? Yep. How will we view this hire in 5 years if we struggle on the court? Will we be happy because he represented the university better than Buzz?  Anyway, yes #4 Benny Moore was one of the few bright spots during my years at Marquette.

[Benny B]

Don't give him any ideas!

Don't worry... Chicos wrote the book on the topic.  You're not going to teach him anything new.

[tower912]

I used to post here but stopped a long time ago.  Just a Marquette season ticket holder hoping for the best. Enjoy this board, Dodds board is a joke. Buzz drove me crazy this year but I don't think he tanked. I had more issues with Mayo's playing time than the freshmen.  Basic point is that coaches are snake oil salesmen.  Will Wojo better represent the University? Probably. Will he nudge players out the door? Yep. Will things happen that are covered up? Yep. How will we view this hire in 5 years if we struggle on the court? Will we be happy because he represented the university better than Buzz?  Anyway, yes #4 Benny Moore was one of the few bright spots during my years at Marquette.

Here's the thing.   What is now being said about Wojo is what was being said 6 years ago about Buzz.    Many were fed up with Crean.   They just held their tongues while he was our guy.  Lots of stories came out.    Now there are lots of stories about how terrible Buzz was but everybody held their tongue.    If WoJo does turn out to be the next coach at Duke, there will be horrible stories about how he never truly bought in.      Just another part of the process.

[willie warrior]

A brave first post.  You are to be commended for not playing the "I'm a first time poster here"' card.

Yeah, UNC or VT fan. Everybody cheats? Not buying that. A cop out to say, "Because everybody does it, it is OK"

[willie warrior]

Possibly because he isn't a first time poster... just a new screen name.

Good one. The Sultan of Slurpery, perhaps? He will need to change that name, right?

[willie warrior]

Anybody referencing the legendary 6'4 left handed shooting guard is OK in my book.   

Ah yes. Benny Moore. Another good one from the past!

[Coleman]

Seems to be a great deal of that around here and anyone who defends him is apparently a slurper.
In the tournament 5 of 6 years. 1 elite eight, 2 sweet sixteens.  People are saying he tanked this year.
Really? Going into the last week of the season Marquette was still clinging to NCAA hopes and lost 2 games in Double OT. Quite the elaborate plot.
This team was not that talented. Blame Buzz for that but not for tanking. As far as the sleaze factor, con man criticisms.  I don't disagree. But guess what, our new coach's former boss is one of the biggest con men in college basketball.  Duke cheats, everyone cheats. It's part of college athletics and to think otherwise is naïve. I appreciate Buzz for what he did. MU reached heights we hadn't reached in years. I appreciate the memories. Not sad to see him go but if you don't think Wojo will be bending rules like his boss, you are kidding yourself.

slurp slurp

[Wojo'sMojo]

Good one. The Sultan of Slurpery, perhaps? He will need to change that name, right?

Where is that Sultan? Has he made any appearances lately or is he on Ganzers site? Someone who posts as much as he does needs an outlet somewhere  

[Coleman]

Where is that Sultan? Has he made any appearances lately or is he on Ganzers site? Someone who posts as much as he does needs an outlet somewhere  

Shhhh don't wake him

[tower912]

He posted recently on IWB's free site, but I have a feeling he is spending the $7 per month and restricting himself to the premium board.    

[Wojo'sMojo]

He posted recently on IWB's free site, but I have a feeling he is spending the $7 per month and restricting himself to the premium board.    

I'm kind of bummed he doesn't come here anymore. I disagreed with him probably 80% of the time, but I thought he was engaging at least. If he didn't come back after Buzz left and the Wojo hire, I'm guessing his vacation is permanent.

[Coleman]

I'm kind of bummed he doesn't come here anymore. I disagreed with him probably 80% of the time, but I thought he was engaging at least. If he didn't come back after Buzz left and the Wojo hire, I'm guessing his vacation is permanent.

Scoopers never stay away forever. Sultan will be back, for better or worse.

Dude was smart and definitely contributed to the board, could have done without his condescension though.

[willie warrior]

Where is that Sultan? Has he made any appearances lately or is he on Ganzers site? Someone who posts as much as he does needs an outlet somewhere  

Too much crow to eat right now--waiting to let it die down, and then it will be "I believed Buzz, he was shafted by the University, he just had a bad year. You people cannot realize that Buzz was playing the guys that gave the team the best chance to win" "Freshmen can't learn Buzz's system, unless he is Kevin Durant. Derrick was a gamechanger and an elite defender, as Buzz said. That was his way of motivating him." etc.

[slingkong]

I've seen some say that Brazzer tanked but I don't think that's the case. I do wonder if he sandbagged this year by, as others have speculated, playing certain players or not playing certain players, whether due to personal differences or to try to prove a point that his way is the only way. And I think that believe, that he sandbagged, is reasonable given a few things that have come out since he left.

[keefe]

carriage returns

Smith Corona or Royal?

[Silkk the Shaka]

I've seen some say that Brazzer tanked but I don't think that's the case. I do wonder if he sandbagged this year by, as others have speculated, playing certain players or not playing certain players, whether due to personal differences or to try to prove a point that his way is the only way. And I think that believe, that he sandbagged, is reasonable given a few things that have come out since he left.

This season was so bizarre in so many ways, I've tried to think of so many logical reasons for some of the rotations and minutes distributions but I haven't come up with any that make much sense. In the end, I think Buzz has some mental demons to deal with and those manifested themselves on the court and in the locker room this year. Pretty apparent he damaged some relationships in the process. Probably a good time to make the split between the two parties, wish it could have ended differently.