Danny Manning anyone?

[MarqMillion]

Longtime lurker here.  There's been a lot of names thrown out there over the last week as far as coaching candidates go.  Why hasn't Danny Manning been talked about more?  

IMO I think he should get some serious consideration.  It only took him two years to take Tulsa to the tournament after they fired Doug Wojcik.  Most of his big minute players this year were his own recruits (he was a successful recruiter as an assistant at KU), and he's probably one of the best at developing big men.  According to ESPN's recruiting pages, Tulsa has been one of the few mid-majors recruiting Diamond Stone.  

Obviously his inexperience as a head coach will raise questions for some, but he worked under Bill Self for nine years, four as an assistant.  With a few mid-major coaches and even some assistants' names being thrown around on this board, it just surprises me that Manning has been brought up very little.  Thoughts?

EDIT: He's also a finalist for NCOY.  http://www.jimphelanaward.com/

[mr.MUskie]

Been mentioned here many times.

[MarqMillion]

Been mentioned here many times.

Mentioned, sure.  Truly discussed?  Very little.  Is there a red flag that I'm missing on him?

[willie warrior]

How is Manning any more qualified than Wardle? I like Manning as a possibility, but what are the credentials?

[Tugg Speedman]

How is Manning any more qualified than Wardle? I like Manning as a possibility, but what are the credentials?

The only thing Wardle lacks is the ability to recruit 5 star players.  We don't know because he doesn't get the chance at GB.

Manning is Wardle but ahead of the curve in the possibility of getting 5 star players.

My fear is if Manning comes and does well, are we a stepping stone to a KU, IU, UNC, MSU, Duke, Syra, UCLA should any of these jobs open up in the next several years?  (Maybe that's getting ahead of ourselves)

[Tums Festival]

The only thing Wardle lacks is the ability to recruit 5 star players.  We don't know because he doesn't get the chance at GB.

Manning is Wardle but ahead of the curve in the possibility of getting 5 star players.

My fear is if Manning comes and does well, are we a stepping stone to a KU, IU, UNC, MSU, Duke, Syra, UCLA should any of these jobs open up in the next several years?  (Maybe that's getting ahead of ourselves)

This is just a guess, but I think the Kansas job would probably the one of those listed he'd want most. Bill Self is only 51, so he's probably not leaving or retiring anytime soon. Plus he's got big time name recognition. He would be an intriguing choice.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Here's a good pro-Manning article from a Marquette alum

http://m.ljworld.com/news/2014/mar/28/column-familiar-name-would-be-nice-fit-coaching-va/?templates=mobile

[MarqMillion]

Here's a good pro-Manning article from a Marquette alum

http://m.ljworld.com/news/2014/mar/28/column-familiar-name-would-be-nice-fit-coaching-va/?templates=mobile

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that.

I would think in his time with Kansas that he would have developed some good recruiting ties. I'm not saying he is miles ahead of any other candidate, but I believe his upside could be as good as anyone.

[Anti-Dentite]

Manning is intriguing, if your a recruit and Danny Manning is present in your abode....ya' gotta at least listen don't you.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that.

I would think in his time with Kansas that he would have developed some good recruiting ties. I'm not saying he is miles ahead of any other candidate, but I believe his upside could be as good as anyone.

Yeah I agree there. I'd take him over Wardle for sure. A positive is that he made the tourney while playing a ton of sophomores this year, which is what he'd be walking into at Marquette. A negative to that is he might think he has something good going with the youth there, and if he can go on a good run with them the next couple years his resume would look even better and a perceived "better" job might be available for him to walk into.

[LA]

How is Manning any more qualified than Wardle? I like Manning as a possibility, but what are the credentials?

Wllie you don't think there is value in 15 years of playing in the NBA and 10 years on the KU staff? As mentioned he has recruited at the highest level at KU, is a name that recruits would respect having that NBA experience.

No idea based on X's and O's but I would say he is more qualified than Wardle.

[cheebs09]

I believe he's also thought of as on of the best big man coaches in the country.

[ChicosBailBonds]

As KU alumnus, not wild about him at this time.  Consider him....sure.  I would hope there are other proven possibilities ahead of him.

[mattyv1908]

The only thing Wardle lacks is the ability to recruit 5 star players.  We don't know because he doesn't get the chance at GB.

Manning is Wardle but ahead of the curve in the possibility of getting 5 star players.

My fear is if Manning comes and does well, are we a stepping stone to a KU, IU, UNC, MSU, Duke, Syra, UCLA should any of these jobs open up in the next several years?  (Maybe that's getting ahead of ourselves)

Considering you just named off seven of the most successful programs in college basketball history I'd expect almost any coach to leave their current job to fill one of those positions were they to be offered.

[Pakuni]

My fear is if Manning comes and does well, are we a stepping stone to a KU, IU, UNC, MSU, Duke, Syra, UCLA should any of these jobs open up in the next several years?  (Maybe that's getting ahead of ourselves)

What coaching prospect out there does the statement above not apply to?
Even Howland would jump at a chance to take over one of those programs. Well, maybe not UCLA.

[Marquette_g]

What coaching prospect out there does the statement above not apply to?
Even Howland would jump at a chance to take over one of those programs. Well, maybe not UCLA.

+1

Also most of these programs already have lines about 3 coaches deep who are part of the "family".   Manning is in the queue at only one of these places and who knows where in that line he is or could rise to.

[CoachRaymondsClass]

As KU alumnus, not wild about him at this time.  Consider him....sure.  I would hope there are other proven possibilities ahead of him.

OK, reject Manning. Who would you recommend MU hire? Who would you consider "other proven possibilities"?

[Dawson Rental]

OK, reject Manning. Who would you recommend MU hire? Who would you consider "other proven possibilities"?

Saul Phillips, North Dakota State; Tim Miles, Nebraska; and Pat Kelsey, Winthrop are considered by many to be proven possibilities.

And, of course, Crunzo Martin.

[CoachRaymondsClass]

Saul Phillips, North Dakota State; Tim Miles, Nebraska; and Pat Kelsey, Winthrop are considered by many to be proven possibilities.

And, of course, Crunzo Martin.

Thank you for your thoughtful answers Mers, but I was asking Chico's and curious about his picks(s). It is so easy to reject, but if the rejector doesn't have an alternative(s), his veto of the Coach is diminished. I see a lot of that on this message board - simple emotional subjective rejection of a candidate's name (and none of us really know who is on Cord's list).

I took the time to look at Mers recommendations. I think that it will be hard to move Miles after his success at NE - would hope that he would entertain our inquiry though. Phillips and Kelsey can coach, but their mid major accomplishments are not that great, and can they can recruit at our level is my concern? - they may be good long term but I'm afraid that MU may hit a big speed bump for several years. Big opportunity is with my #1, Cuonzo Martin - we'll see? Manning to me is the #2 choice behind Martin because he is ascending, has a name, has worked long time at a big time program. That is why I was boring in on Chicos, as a KS alum, for more rationale and who he would recommend.

[ChicosBailBonds]

OK, reject Manning. Who would you recommend MU hire? Who would you consider "other proven possibilities"?

I've put out a number of people earlier....I guess I'd like to know if we are already in the 2nd tier, which is where I would put Manning.  I was hoping we might still be in the first tier.  Something tells me first tier candidates are available and willing to be the coach here, but MU (or those paying for them) aren't willing to have them.  Hopefully that is the case, but I guess we will find out.

[tweakers_suck]

I've put out a number of people earlier....I guess I'd like to know if we are already in the 2nd tier, which is where I would put Manning.  I was hoping we might still be in the first tier.  Something tells me first tier candidates are available and willing to be the coach here, but MU (or those paying for them) aren't willing to have them.  Hopefully that is the case, but I guess we will find out.

I think it is a big unknown where we are in the coach search. Given the fiasco last week with leaks, wrong tv news reports, wrong tweets, and just a crap load of poor judgement by many.

A boat load of gag balls have been installed and we won't know anything until an announcement is imminent. Which is the way it should be.

[willie warrior]

I think it is a big unknown where we are in the coach search. Given the fiasco last week with leaks, wrong tv news reports, wrong tweets, and just a crap load of poor judgement by many.

A boat load of gag balls have been installed and we won't know anything until an announcement is imminent. Which is the way it should be.

Yes we will find out, and the way it is going, it looks like there will be more disappointment, similar to the last two hires. Hope we make a statement, and not a toilet statement.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think it is a big unknown where we are in the coach search. Given the fiasco last week with leaks, wrong tv news reports, wrong tweets, and just a crap load of poor judgement by many.

A boat load of gag balls have been installed and we won't know anything until an announcement is imminent. Which is the way it should be.

I agree....hope it is an impactful hire, but out of our control. 

[CoachRaymondsClass]

I've put out a number of people earlier....I guess I'd like to know if we are already in the 2nd tier, which is where I would put Manning.  I was hoping we might still be in the first tier.  Something tells me first tier candidates are available and willing to be the coach here, but MU (or those paying for them) aren't willing to have them.  Hopefully that is the case, but I guess we will find out.

I'll have to dig for your list I guess... can you name your first tier (does it include Howland)? And I'll assume Manning is 2nd tier. Was Martin on your list?

[savwa]

I don't think Manning would be a bad choice. I do think Manning would be a 2nd tier option though.

While you'd have to get both guys in agreement, would MU go big and hire Howland and say we want to bring in Wardle as an eventual HC in waiting and have him be a lead assistant associate HC? Egos for both coaches likely wouldn't allow it but with BH being older it would be an interesting approach. My initial concerns about BH was that he'd skip town after a couple years. Perhaps BH is at a point where he'd be like Steve Fisher and be all in for the long haul but a BH BW combo sets you up for now and the future.

As I finished typing this, I'm just at a point where I want someone hired so the speculation can end.