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Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2014, 04:54:49 PM
No, you missed their best player, Jarnell Stokes.  Stokes was a Five Star recruit, who graduated high school in December, 2012.  He immediately joined UT in January.  Stokes would have been a top 10 recruit in the class of 2013 if he would have stayed in high school.  

Exactly

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.

Yeap

Groin_pull

Quote from: rabid652 on March 28, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Hmm...Danny Manning.  At a glance, he would appear to meet my criteria of possibly being able to retain current players and possibly recruits.  Perhaps, more so than Martin.  

Manning's a Kansas guy but I don't think Bill Self is going anywhere soon.

I'm putting these two at the top of my somewhat uninformed list.

I wouldn't worry so much about where coaches may or may not go in the future. Let's face it, no matter who MU hires, if that coach is successful, he's probably gone in about five years.

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
I wouldn't worry so much about where coaches may or may not go in the future. Let's face it, no matter who MU hires, if that coach is successful, he's probably gone in about five years.

Yeap, thats been the trend.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.

I'm beginning to change my mind about Martin.  I would be worried about Purdue, though.  Painter is one of the highest paid coaches in the NCAA and  hasn't earned his keep @ 1.7 million/year.  Martin might want to bolt for Purdue... if that ever happens. 

I'm interested in Martin.... but I'm still wary of him and some of his recruits. 

MU Buff

Cuonzo Martin has Tennessee ranked 7th in kenpom ratings, is 17th in adjusted offense and 15th in adjusted defense. He's also recruited 2 5-star players to Tennessee in 3 years, but he hasn't landed the depth of top 100 recruits that we've seen Bazz land. He will also have way more resources and support in Milwaukee.

I understand being skeptical but every coach has flaws. There isn't a perfect coach out there who everyone will agree on. He might not be my 1st choice, but if MU ends up hiring Martin I won't be banging my head against the wall.

Logi4three

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Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players?  He continually recruits 3 star guys.  Why would MU want someone that cannot land top 100 players?  He has Bruce Pearl's recruits as seniors on this team, so the team is not his per say.  

No thanks.  We don't need a regression of talent.  



Again, read between the lines... our current players and recruits are fond of this candidate as HC.  Nothing ensures future success like continued success.  

Groin_pull

Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 06:00:21 PM
Cuonzo Martin has Tennessee ranked 7th in kenpom ratings, is 17th in adjusted offense and 15th in adjusted defense. He's also recruited 2 5-star players to Tennessee in 3 years, but he hasn't landed the depth of top 100 recruits that we've seen Bazz land. He will also have way more resources and support in Milwaukee.

I understand being skeptical but every coach has flaws. There isn't a perfect coach out there who everyone will agree on. He might not be my 1st choice, but if MU ends up hiring Martin I won't be banging my head against the wall.

I half-heartedly agree. I guess I could live with Martin. I could warm up to him. The guys who would absolutely drive me to jump out a window are Wardle...Jeter...Weber...or any assistant.

MU Buff

Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
I half-heartedly agree. I guess I could live with Martin. I could warm up to him. The guys who would absolutely drive me to jump out a window are Wardle...Jeter...Weber...or any assistant.

On that, we can full-heartedly agree

brandx

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
Looks like I missed That's the only top 100 player he's recruited in what,  3 years?  ESPN has him @ 4 star.  He has 2 star recruits on his resume as well.....  that scares me. 

So, is your point that he is a great coach cuz he's in the Sweet 16 with mostly two star players?


Cooby Snacks

Quote from: rabid652 on March 28, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Hmm...Danny Manning.  At a glance, he would appear to meet my criteria of possibly being able to retain current players and possibly recruits.  Perhaps, more so than Martin.  

Manning's a Kansas guy but I don't think Bill Self is going anywhere soon.

I'm putting these two at the top of my somewhat uninformed list.

Credited with developing this line of bigs: Darrel Arthur, Darnell Jackson, Cole Aldrich, the Morris twins, Thomas Robinson, Jeff Withey. Granted those were all highly regarded recruits, but for KU to bat 1.000 on them is pretty astonishing.

🏀

BrewCity did a nice piece on Martin over at BCB and I'm in the Martin camp.

I really think a strong African-American coach is what Marquette needs. He's got the coaching chops, he turned Pearl's poop-pile into a winner quickly and he'll be coming off a Sweet 16.

Not bad at all, especially considering he's probably accomplished as much as Shaka if you take away his fluke Final Four.

Eldon

Quote from: PTM on March 28, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
BrewCity did a nice piece on Martin over at BCB and I'm in the Martin camp.

I really think a strong African-American coach is what Marquette needs. He's got the coaching chops, he turned Pearl's poop-pile into a winner quickly and he'll be coming off a Sweet 16.

Not bad at all, especially considering he's probably accomplished as much as Shaka if you take away his fluke Final Four.

cue the VCWho roaches in 3.....2......1.....

nyg

Well at least Martin's team plays defense like Buzz's tonight.  Lets give up those open threes and foul a three point shot.  Michigan looking good.

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Quote from: Eldon on March 28, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
cue the VCWho roaches in 3.....2......1.....


That's cool, hard to argue they belonged in the tournament. Bilas'd.

Still wanted Shaka though, it was just too sexy. So close.

Logi4three

Martin will have to learn when to call a TO.  Ouch.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
+1. I've always liked Stallings. My wife is from Bloomington-Normal in central Illinois (ISU campus is there) and the population still raves about his coaching job at Illinois State from 93-99. I'd say he's a close second to Doug Collins down there as far as ISU notoriety.

Sidenote: remember when he brought his Vandy team into Milwaukee a few years back and absolutely torched us? That was brutal.
Isn't he another legend like Stew Morril?

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Martin's team doesn't look like it's that disciplined on defense at all.  I'm not impressed.  He's getting out-coached.  Tennessee looks lazy at times in the half court defense.  There just doesn't seem to be much continuity at all.  They look lost !!!  With a team that is quick and long as Tennessee, your strength should be guarding the perimeter. 

 


NersEllenson

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 28, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I'd be perfectly content with Martin. Took Missouri State from bottom feeder to conference champion. Took the mess left by Bruce Pearl, overachieved each of the past two years (contrary to what Tennessee fans will tell you), and made the sweet 16 this year. Plus his top two assistants are midwest guys.

+100

For anyone who thinks Wardle is on Martin's level....sorry....if Brian isn't an MU alum....his name isn't even anywhere near the list.  Martin is coaching in SEC.  Has team in Sweet 16.  And all of the above are relevant points. 

Read the article...and they take away private jets for him to recruit...due to boosters getting frustrated?  Far less support for him than what he'd have at MU...and I like a coach with a chip on his shoulder..
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

cheebs09

I've heard players love playing for him. Also, he was an assistant at Purdue for 8 years. He had a hand in recruiting Hummel, Moore, and the other JuJuan Johnson. Also, played for the Bucks. He's not the sexy hire that Shaka was, but I think he can be as good or better X's and O's guy than Shaka. The Pomeroy numbers for Tennessee are very encouraging. Also, Michigan blew the doors off VCU last year too.

Below is a video. I know I'm reaching (this is probably a coach's version of a recruit highlight video), but he seems like a guy who can relate with players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nDL2yYBKeY0

hairy worthen

This sounds like people are talking themselves into settling for less than an impact hire.

mechaghidorah

Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
Well at least Martin's team plays defense like Buzz's tonight.  Lets give up those open threes and foul a three point shot.  Michigan looking good.

Yep, terrible job with X's and O's and fundamentals tonight, so MU will be all over him.

ecompt

Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 07:28:18 PM
Yep, terrible job with X's and O's and fundamentals tonight, so MU will be all over him.

Especially if he sucks with his rotations.

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