OT: Indiana Hoosiers freshman forward Noah Vonleh will enter the 2014 NBA draft

[Tugg Speedman]

First Fischer comes to MU, then the tan one's other big man of the future announces he's leaving.  You agree with his own assessment that he's between 4 and 12th?  I think he has some stars in his eyes.

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Indiana Hoosiers freshman forward Noah Vonleh will enter the 2014 NBA draft, CBSSports.com reported early Monday.

"It's going to suck leaving college without an NCAA Tournament," Vonleh told CBSSports.com. "But I have to do what's best for me."

The 6-foot-10, 240-pound Haverill, Mass. native averaged 11.3 points and nine rebounds a game

"I've heard the fourth pick to the 12th pick is wide open," Vonleh said. "[I think I'll be selected] anywhere in that range."

[Jay Bee]

First Fischer comes to MU, then the tan one's other big man of the future announces he's leaving.  You agree with his own assessment that he's between 4 and 12th?  I think he has some stars in his eyes.

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His assessment is reasonable.

[Avenue Commons]

He's a lottery pick for sure.

[Tugg Speedman]

His assessment is reasonable.

You might be right, draft express has him 7th

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

So the tan one did not make the NIT with a lottery pick in the middle.

[mug644]

If Fischer had known Vonleh would leave after this year, do you think he might have reconsidered his transfer, expecting more playing time next year and beyond? Anyway, I look forward to him at MU.

[Tugg Speedman]

If Fischer had known Vonleh would leave after this year, do you think he might have reconsidered his transfer, expecting more playing time next year and beyond? Anyway, I look forward to him at MU.

The sated reason for transferring was to be closer to home.  I have seen nothing about lack of playing time cited. 

[Skatastrophy]

If Fischer had known Vonleh would leave after this year, do you think he might have reconsidered his transfer, expecting more playing time next year and beyond? Anyway, I look forward to him at MU.

After Fischer came back from his shoulder injury, he had worked his way up to getting 20 minutes per game. I don't think that PT was an issue for the young man. He was just looking for a change of scenery.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Between Zeller, Oladipo and Vonleh all leaving early (all before Junior seasons, frankly), I think Crean has to adjust his recruitment model to that of Calipari.  He should be aiming to get the 4/5-star one and dones, and just reload every year.  Gettting the role players like Hulls, Watford, Sheehy and Hollowell mean nothing unless you have the star power to complement them.  

[Hards Alumni]

Crean has another rough season with a lotto pick starting.  Gotta love it!

[Wade for President]

Noah has always been a bit of a head scratcher for me.  The man oozes talent (can handle the ball, shoot from outside, good lateral quickness/athleticism), but seemed to routinely average 4-5 shot attempts a game.  Vonleh appeared handcuffed by the offensive sets much like Zeller.  Remarkable.

Indiana's new slogan:  "Come to IU...where you can be a lottery pick despite your coach"

[ChicosBailBonds]

Noah has always been a bit of a head scratcher for me.  The man oozes talent (can handle the ball, shoot from outside, good lateral quickness/athleticism), but seemed to routinely average 4-5 shot attempts a game.  Vonleh appeared handcuffed by the offensive sets much like Zeller.  Remarkable.

Indiana's new slogan:  "Come to IU...where you can be a lottery pick despite your coach"

Kind of weird since Oladipo was a 3 star recruit when he came to IU and basically gives al the credit to the coach for making him a lottery pick.  To each their own.

I sure hope for the next 5+ years we have updates about our arch rival Virginia Tech.

[mugrad2006]

Kind of weird since Oladipo was a 3 star recruit when he came to IU and basically gives al the credit to the coach for making him a lottery pick.  To each their own.

I sure hope for the next 5+ years we have updates about our arch rival Virginia Tech.

We won't because you're not an alum.

[Wade for President]

Kind of weird since Oladipo was a 3 star recruit when he came to IU and basically gives al the credit to the coach for making him a lottery pick.  To each their own.

I sure hope for the next 5+ years we have updates about our arch rival Virginia Tech.

Chicos, my focus was rather on big men.  If I was a 5 star big, I'd think twice about committing to IU/Crean's offense.

Full disclosure: I was raised an IU fan, and still follow the program closely (regardless of who's at the helm).

[NavinRJohnson]

Not sure its much of a loss, but Austin Etherington going too.

[4everwarriors]

Clappy must be difficult to live with, hey?

[NavinRJohnson]

Sounds like Hollowell may be going too...though that would seem to be even more of a Creaning.

[LloydMooresLegs]

We won't because you're not an alum.

Are you sure?

[jesmu84]

Chronic Hoosier ‏@ChronicHoosier  2m
When the guys who do it solely for the pride in wearing the jersey all decide to bolt, you may have a culture problem. #iubb

[NavinRJohnson]

Chronic Hoosier ‏@ChronicHoosier  2m
When the guys who do it solely for the pride in wearing the jersey all decide to bolt, you may have a culture problem. #iubb

More likely  you have a (lack of) talent problem. A good house Creaning is a good first step to correcting it.

[4everwarriors]

Chronic Hoosier ‏@ChronicHoosier  2m
When the guys who do it solely for the pride in wearing the jersey all decide to bolt, you may have a culture problem. #iubb

Nah, the problem is with the head coach.