Howland

[the eagle]

I can't get over how big this would be if MU could land this.  The new big east is just that....the NEW big east.  We have fellow schools rooting for this as well because of what it could mean for the conference.  To take on a coach of his caliber and history would just assist in saying this conference is going to compete, regardless of how this past season went down.  FWIW I'm all in on this.

Thinking of How lands first presser saying "we are going to win and win big" from a proven winner gets me a whole lot more excited for the future than what i was a week ago before the bomb fell.

[esotericmindguy]

Just not feeling the Howland aura. I think the guy will use Marquette to get a better job - IF he is successful in the first several years. No way he stays longer than 3-4 if he gets us back to the NCAAs. Plus, his style of play is not fan friendly.

Don't understand that line of thinking. You'd rather have a less accomplished coach because he won't leave? Hire the best guy, it's a great job. If he wants to leave so be it. Hire the next best coach.

[MULawAlum]

Howland would be a disaster.  Read these two articles and tell me you still think he'd be a good hire.

SI's 5-page article on his time at UCLA.  A lot of bad stuff went on.

Questionable recruiting methods.

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Howland would be a disaster.  Read these two articles and tell me you still think he'd be a good hire.

SI's 5-page article on his time at UCLA.  A lot of bad stuff went on.

Questionable recruiting methods.

He'd be a good hire.

[RushmoreAcademy]

Howland would be a disaster.  Read these two articles and tell me you still think he'd be a good hire.

SI's 5-page article on his time at UCLA.  A lot of bad stuff went on.

Questionable recruiting methods.

This is an outrage.  These articles almost make him sound like a college basketball coach.

[marquetteff03]

Howland is starting to really feel like a win win. Upgrade in actual coaching ability on the floor and he wants to be here. It's not the most exciting hire but certainly not an unknown....remember when it was Buzz who??? No more gambles. Big name hire, keep on keeping on.

[NickelDimer]

I can't believe some are questioning what type of hire Howland would be and suggesting a "let's wait and see who else we can get" attitude.  This is a no freaking brainer.  A great coach with an established track record of winning who wants to come here??  Done, done and done.  He's exactly the stabilizing force of a hire MU needs right now

[chapman]

Howland would be a disaster.  Read these two articles and tell me you still think he'd be a good hire.

There's a rebuttal to all of this, or it may just be easier to note that UCLA is a cesspool.

Howland is starting to really feel like a win win. Upgrade in actual coaching ability on the floor and he wants to be here. It's not the most exciting hire but certainly not an unknown....remember when it was Buzz who??? No more gambles. Big name hire, keep on keeping on.

And the media has now put the pressure on MU to make a splash - they had rumors of Howland and Marshall interest out almost simultaneously with the Buzz leaving story.  Six years ago, names of that magnitude were wishful thinking by Scoop posters, not coming from credible sources.  The media's angle has painted the MU program in high regard this time, and hopefully they're proven right.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I can't believe some are questioning what type of hire Howland would be and suggesting a "let's wait and see who else we can get" attitude.  This is a no freaking brainer.  A great coach with an established track record of winning who wants to come here??  Done, done and done.  He's exactly the stabilizing force of a hire MU needs right now

If Wichita State loses today, I'd bump Marshall up to #1, if we could get him.  Timing is everything.

[RJax55]

If Wichita State loses today, I'd bump Marshall up to #1, if we could get him.  Timing is everything.

Yes, the timing worries me here. As that is a variable that is somewhat out of MU's control.

Chicos, I can't remember, but when MU hired Crean, was MSU out of the tournament then?

And, I realize it is different for an assistant coach.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes, the timing worries me here. As that is a variable that is somewhat out of MU's control.

Chicos, I can't remember, but when MU hired Crean, was MSU out of the tournament then?

And, I realize it is different for an assistant coach.

MU hired Crean on March 30, 1999.  Michigan State was eliminated in the Final Four on March 27, 1999.

If you will recall, Michigan State was sent to Milwaukee for the first two rounds against Mount Saint Mary's and then Ole Miss.  So Crean was in town.  It worked out nicely from a timing perspective and location.

[NickelDimer]

If Wichita State loses today, I'd bump Marshall up to #1, if we could get him.  Timing is everything.

Agree that he absolutely enters the picture if he becomes available and has interest. But some are suggesting we wait two weeks and put Howland on the back burner in hopes of landing someone like Marshall.  I think that's foolish.  In fact an argument could be made that Howland is the better hire given his track record.  Not saying I think he is but one could make that argument

[RJax55]

MU hired Crean on March 30, 1999.  Michigan State was eliminated in the Final Four on March 27, 1999.

If you will recall, Michigan State was sent to Milwaukee for the first two rounds against Mount Saint Mary's and then Ole Miss.  So Crean was in town.  It worked out nicely from a timing perspective and location.

Thanks. Timing and circumstances were definitely in MU's favor for that search.

[4everwarriors]

Yes, the timing worries me here. As that is a variable that is somewhat out of MU's control.

Chicos, I can't remember, but when MU hired Crean, was MSU out of the tournament then?

And, I realize it is different for an assistant coach.

Cords was interviewin' Clappy during the Tourney as MSU was seeded in MKE. Big difference was T-Cubed was a lowly ass. coach at the time, not the head bs'er.

[Coleman]

I want Howland, Marshall, or Miller, in that order.

Any of these guys would be a win, but if Howland wants it the job should be his.

[Blackhat]

As long as Howland has some fire in his belly, I'm fine.  I like what he did early in his tenure, but there's no denying he had inexcusably weak teams at UCLA.   They were painful to watch a couple seasons.

[NavinRJohnson]

If Marshall has interest, MU already knows it. If he doesn't, they know that too, and I'm sure they're also talking to guys that haven't even been mentioned. My hope is that Howlands lawyers are already involved, but regardless of that, it doesn't appear this is going to be something that drags on for a terribly long time, but won't necessarily be settled tomorrow either.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

I think Howland would know what kind of program he would be joining and .perhaps, the pressure to sign Burger Boys would be less here. Hence, a cleaner recruiting process.

[Tums Festival]

As long as Howland has some fire in his belly, I'm fine.  I like what he did early in his tenure, but there's no denying he had inexcusably weak teams at UCLA.   They were painful to watch a couple seasons.

I think after the ways things went down at UCLA he has plenty to prove and to motivate him.

[79Warrior]

As long as Howland has some fire in his belly, I'm fine.  I like what he did early in his tenure, but there's no denying he had inexcusably weak teams at UCLA.   They were painful to watch a couple seasons.

Howland wants the gig. It is all over the media. The public vetting has begun. Cords is doing a great job with this. If Smart is not interested, and they know by now, then it is either Howland or Marshall. Either way, we stand to land on our feet big time and will not suffer the embarrassment of being declined in public.

[Eldon]

Howland wants the gig. It is all over the media. The public vetting has begun. Cords is doing a great job with this. If Smart is not interested, and they know by now, then it is either Howland or Marshall. Either way, we stand to land on our feet big time and will not suffer the embarrassment of being declined in public.

I really want Howland, but would be fine with the others.

In any case, I really hope that our new coach specifically points to the vitality and the potential of the Big East.  Totally fly in the face of what Buzz said.