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PGsHeroes32

How can people even defend this anymore?

Now our BET road is even harder.

Great job buzz!!! Keep riding Derrick!!! Keep drawing up plays that never work!!!

Keep subbing Ox!!! Keep sitting burton!!!!

Keep not starting Todd!!!!
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

21Jumpstreet

Such a great game.  My first thought, which is ridiculous, was omg scoop is going to melt down with D Wil taking that shot.  He had no business taking it but nothing changes.  Win the BET!

NickelDimer

What's the serious question? It reads more like a rant
No Finish Line

brandx

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 08, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
How can people even defend this anymore?

Now our BET road is even harder.


No - it made no difference whatsoever. We have to win the BET no matter what happened today.

79Warrior

Quote from: brandx on March 08, 2014, 02:01:11 PM
No - it made no difference whatsoever. We have to win the BET no matter what happened today.

Well that clearly is not happening.

Niv Berkowitz

Doesn't matter what we do and how much every fan sees Derrick's limitations. People will come here to tag on DW. I feel bad for the kid at this point. Just the aha the takes here is nuts. That's all everyone here gets off on now. Not if we lose or win but how DW plays.

Can't wait to break from this board for five months to see if the jags go away.

tower912

Dawson was -5 in 90 seconds of run.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brandx

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 08, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
Doesn't matter what we do and how much every fan sees Derrick's limitations. People will come here to tag on DW. I feel bad for the kid at this point. Just the aha the takes here is nuts. That's all everyone here gets off on now. Not if we lose or win but how DW plays.

Can't wait to break from this board for five months to see if the jags go away.

You're right. It has gotten that bad and I feel bad for the kid. But there is no way that he should be playing more minutes than anyone else on this team. And That is on Buzz.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 08, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
Doesn't matter what we do and how much every fan sees Derrick's limitations. People will come here to tag on DW. I feel bad for the kid at this point. Just the aha the takes here is nuts. That's all everyone here gets off on now. Not if we lose or win but how DW plays.

Can't wait to break from this board for five months to see if the jags go away.

I feel bad for the kid but he was recruited, committed, signed and plays for a Division I team that also happens to be THE moneymaker for the university.

Derrick has been solid for MU in the past...AS A BENCH PLAYER.

This year, we have seen that he lacks the leadership, offensive punch, and impact this team needs to succeed.
One summer won't fix all the problems either.

He will do best as Buzz's defensive bulldog off the bench.
SS Marquette

SoCalwarrior

I'm relieved we lost. We all know this team can't win four in row, but three... It's setting up perfectly

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 08, 2014, 02:00:59 PM
What's the serious question? It reads more like a rant

Did you see where the question mark was placed?
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: brandx on March 08, 2014, 02:01:11 PM
No - it made no difference whatsoever. We have to win the BET no matter what happened today.

Yeah it does because now we play X and Creighton first.

I would rather play Providence forsure and probably nova before Creighton.

Also, this thread got pinned to the top? Lol. Thought it got deleted til I searched my post history.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

79Warrior

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 08, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Yeah it does because now we play X and Creighton first.

I would rather play Providence forsure and probably nova before Creighton.

Also, this thread got pinned to the top? Lol. Thought it got deleted til I searched my post history.

Why set yourself up for disappointment. This Marquette team will be one and done in the NIT anyway. Rough season.

MU B2002

Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2014, 02:05:23 PM
Dawson was -5 in 90 seconds of run.   


And D Wil had 9 assists.
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

NersEllenson

Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2014, 02:05:23 PM
Dawson was -5 in 90 seconds of run.   

Yep....never given a chance to play through 1 turnover/pass deflected...immediately to the bench...confidence inspiring.  Derrick had a similar turnover in 1st half as well.  Dawson goes to basket 2nd time in the game, and gets tied up..as has happened to Mayo, Jamil, Derrick repeatedly...results in turnover...we stop initial shot, Dawson gets called for foul...bench the rest of the game.

Meanwhile, our 48 minute per game PG that we've seen play more minutes than any other player on the team contributes 2 points..and not a whisper of criticism...

Quote from: MU B2002 on March 08, 2014, 02:32:55 PM

And D Wil had 9 assists.

Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

IrwinFletcher


Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??

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I am learning so much from you Ners.

So assists for a PG are not a big deal.  Please keep the basketball wisdom coming Dr Naismith.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 08, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??



I am learning so much from you Ners.

So assists for a PG are not a big deal.  Please keep the basketball wisdom coming Dr Naismith.

There was some home cooking going on for some of those assists...I had him at 6 legit assists. Whatever the total, no one can claim he was a playmaker out there today regardless of what that assist total was.

PGsHeroes32

Seriously, look at what Derrick running the show has lead on to?

Junior wasn't great but man we are dancing easily with him.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

NersEllenson

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 08, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??

I am learning so much from you Ners.

So assists for a PG are not a big deal.  Please keep the basketball wisdom coming Dr Naismith.

What's your take on this season's failure?  How do you explain Todd Mayo looking like an entirely different player these last 8 games....since Buzz FINALLY stopped with the head games and yanking him out after every single god damn mistake? 

Buzz has given Derrick more minutes than any other player on the team, and he has not shown one lick of improvement all season.  Sorry, I'm underwhelmed by a guy getting 9 assists in a Double OT game.  Has opponent had 20 points, 6 assists, 5 steals....

One assist every 5:20 as a PG is nothing to RAVE about, especially when you scored 2 points in 48 and went your standard 0-2 from FT line..
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

nyg

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 08, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??



I am learning so much from you Ners.

So assists for a PG are not a big deal.  Please keep the basketball wisdom coming Dr Naismith.

Just not about assists, you have to have some sort of points coming from your starting point guard these days.  Its almost mandatory, only to have the defense be abit scared of the point guard to any degree.  That is not the case with MU.  Not an argument for Dawson since I actually believe Duane Wilson will play PG next year, but the below facts speaks for itself.

Dwil's last five games:

Total of 11 points.  Thats 2 ppg.
3 for 16 in field goal attempts  Thats 19%
5 for 16 in free throws  Thats 31%
Assists 21, turnovers 8  OK....

Dwil played 37 minutes in Providence game and had 1 point.
Dwil played 47 minutes in STJ game and had 2 points.


Boone

Total agreement on the home cooking served up by our stats crew. No flipping way Derrick deserved to have 9 assists!

mattyv1908

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 08, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Big deal??  9 assists in 48 minutes of PT??  2 points in 48 minutes??



I am learning so much from you Ners.

So assists for a PG are not a big deal.  Please keep the basketball wisdom coming Dr Naismith.


While I disagree with Ners on the Wilson/Dawson debate, trying to make a case to defend Wilson's play one simply has to look at his box score of the last three games to know it's pointless and lacks intelligence to even attempt it.
Shut this board down at the opening tip.  If they win, open it back up.  If they lose, keep it shut it down until the next morning.  - Sultan of Slurpery

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 08, 2014, 02:51:31 PM

While I disagree with Ners on the Wilson/Dawson debate, trying to make a case to defend Wilson's play one simply has to look at his box score of the last three games to know it's pointless and lacks intelligence to even attempt it.

And that goes back to my original post

Serious question...How can anyone defend this anymore?

Somehow they can. But look stupid in the process.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

Did Derrick get credit for the assist when he handed off to Davante underneath and SJU got called for goaltending?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: Boone on March 08, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
Total agreement on the home cooking served up by our stats crew. No flipping way Derrick deserved to have 9 assists!

Yes, but someof those were Basic Assists.

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