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Afroman

If he plays more than two minutes a game next season, Buzz is a fool.

How can you be a major NCAA Division I basketball player and not shoot a perimeter jump shot or a free throw?

My favorite play of the game, though, was when he started to run with the ball before dribbling. You see that in peewee hoops.

Good God.

netty24

Quote from: Afroman on March 04, 2014, 10:55:11 PM
If he plays more than two minutes a game next season, Buzz is a fool.

How can you be a major NCAA Division I basketball player and not shoot a perimeter jump shot or a free throw?

My favorite play of the game, though, was when he started to run with the ball before dribbling. You see that in peewee hoops.

Good God.

I will give him credit, he did play pretty good defense on cotton most of the game, but his complete and total ineptitude on offense and horrible foul at the end cost us this game. So god damn frustrating to watch.

humanlung

#2
Walking the ball up the court with 11 seconds left in a tie game so there's no clock left for a shot? And up a score in the second OT and you travel with no one within 20 feet?

I love his heart and effort but mental mistakes like these and a 1 pont, 3 assist box score...

Smokin' Jae

Hands down the worst game of his mu career, and thats saying something

brandx

Quote from: Afroman on March 04, 2014, 10:55:11 PM

My favorite play of the game, though, was when he started to run with the ball before dribbling. You see that in peewee hoops.


My EXACT thought at the time.

GGGG

I didn't see the foul....what exactly happened at the end?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on March 04, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I didn't see the foul....what exactly happened at the end?

Derrick treated it like it was a hail mary play in football.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Two consecutive horrible offensive games for Derrick in a season filled with them.

But as for the OP, Derrick will be the starting PG next season and he will play considerably more than 2 mpg.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

LAZER

He's going to get significant minutes next year

MattyWarrior

watching him play point makes me throw up, one good play, one bad play,and so on and so on.

GGGG

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 04, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Derrick treated it like it was a hail mary play in football.


So he fouled on the inbounds pass?

MU82

Quote from: Blueprint on March 04, 2014, 11:06:30 PM
watching him play point makes me throw up, one good play, one bad play,and so on and so on.

Ummm ... what were the good offensive plays?
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Smokin' Jae

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on March 04, 2014, 11:07:01 PM

So he fouled on the inbounds pass?
Correct, pass was lofted in the back court and derrick just hammered cotton trying to pick it off

netty24

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on March 04, 2014, 11:07:01 PM

So he fouled on the inbounds pass?

Yes sir. He was somewhat close to getting a piece of it, but Cotton had jumped and Derrick his eyes on the ball and took out Cotton's legs, making it an obvious foul. Derrick either should have let Cotton catch it or jumped himself, but that is easy to say from my couch.

Boone

But DW's improved this year, so says some posters.

GGGG

Jesus...I was busy posting to Scoop when that happened.  Thanks.

GGGG

Quote from: Boone on March 04, 2014, 11:10:44 PM
But DW's improved this year, so says some posters.


Well he has.  But has seriously regressed the last two games.  To be honest, I can't think of a single worst performance by a MU point guard in my lifetime.

TomW1365

#17
I've been silent this season.  Just one dissapointment after another... Derrick Wilson is a kid that is in over his head.  I never yelled at a TV so much... That travel call was awful.. Why not dribble before driving to the basket?!? We have them in double bonus up one and with a minute to play!!!  Even the inbounds to a stationary Thomas was bad.  The foul at the end is by far the least bad thing he did in the last half of the game.  Good defense by MU as always though.  

I'm going to chalk this loss up to Jamil Wilson's pink shoes.  Just a long line of bad moves by our Wilson's this year.  

Shark

I'm for proposing a forum filter that no longer allows people to kid themselves into saying Derrick Wilson is some sort of defensive specialist. MU has gotten burned ALL SEASON by other teams point guards.

Derrick Wilson is also nothing more than an average passer. He also cannot make wide open layups created by his defensive play. He's terrible. I'm sorry, but this game was a giant magnifying glass on what this team's problem is. Derrick cannot play more minutes than Duane and John if this team wants to be good next year. He's useless in nearly every facet of the game.

Also, Jake Thomas played decent and then went full retard at the end. It's almost like a joke sometimes. You could not of made up a more hilariously fitting ending.

AirPunches

I like Derrick. He's a good guy and tries his hardest. I think many on this board are too hard on the kid. Is he putting himself out there ? He is forced into too big of a role on this team. I think the only person who doesn't realize that is Buzz. Thats where the frustration should start and end.

setyoursightsnorth

Quote from: LAZER on March 04, 2014, 11:06:18 PM
He's going to get significant minutes next year

Yes. Beautiful. I can't wait. First team All-Big East and he will lead us to the National Title. Quote me.

Silkk the Shaka

I'm probably the biggest Buzz apologist in the world, but it's on him for playing Derrick so much. After the first half evidence, it was patently obvious that this was a night you ride Dawson down the stretch like the @Georgetown game. I just wish Derrick had the guts to tell Buzz it wasn't his night again. No shame in that. In fact it's what I'd expect a player as smart and team-first as Derrick to do.

mattyv1908

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on March 04, 2014, 11:12:17 PM

Well he has.  But has seriously regressed the last two games.  To be honest, I can't think of a single worst performance by a MU point guard in my lifetime.

Thank you Sultan for your unbiased honesty.  You typically post like you're directly in contact with Buzz Williams but I appreciate your candid response.
Shut this board down at the opening tip.  If they win, open it back up.  If they lose, keep it shut it down until the next morning.  - Sultan of Slurpery

Eldon

As we've been told over and over and over and over and over, Buzz sees these guys in practice.  As Buzz himself said "Derrick can't shoot.  Ok.  Derrick can't shoot.  Got it."  

Derrick trapped well tonight, especially in the final minute.  And I honestly believe that we don't beat Butler in the tourney last year without Derrick--Brad Stevens even mentioned him in the postgame.  Derrick caused huge problems for Rotnei Clark.

Despite those points, Derrick is not a high major starting point guard. I think he is a good situational defensive player.  His poor scoring ability and overall low basketball IQ means that he should not start on a high major team.  Moreover, we have a point guard on the bench who has shown a higher basketball IQ.

However, it is not Derrick's fault that he starts.  It is the fault of the coaching staff, especially Buzz.  I don't mind Buzz starting Derrick because it keeps his incentive scheme of practicing hard in place (e.g., Juan Anderson), but I think this game, if not others, is the catalyst to give Dawson the lion share of PG minutes.

I think it is fine to criticize someone's play, but please don't make your comments personal.  You represent Marquette University.  Personal attacks on a fellow student, especially one whom you've never met, reflect very poorly on you, me, other alums, and, more importantly, the Church.  

MU82

Quote from: MARQ_13 on March 04, 2014, 11:15:01 PM
I like Derrick. He's a good guy and tries his hardest. I think many on this board are too hard on the kid. Is he putting himself out there ? He is forced into too big of a role on this team. I think the only person who doesn't realize that is Buzz. Thats where the frustration should start and end.

This is, of course, absolutely true. Derrick isn't the one who is playing Derrick. He is what he is. It's not his fault he plays 30-40 mpg.

It doesn't mean we can't be frustrated when he travels 30 feet from the basket with absolutely no intention of going to the hoop or when he misses a layup that moste 7th grade girls can make, though.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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