Charles Matthews chooses UK

[4everwarriors]

Bullseye bros just tweeted that Marquette was his runner up and he knows that for a fact. Ugh.

So, he's likely to transfer back here, aina?

[wadesworld]

So, he's likely to transfer back here, aina?

Just ask JP Tokoto.

[GGGG]

Norm, what would be interesting to see is how many of these are in-state (or local) versus out of state.  For instance, Wisconsin's one recruit is Sam Dekker.  Let me go out on a limb here and say that if Dekker grew up in California, Wisconsin's not going to get him.

That makes a difference.  And probably why we were Matthew's #2 and why we are in it for Stone.

[GGGG]

Bullseye bros just tweeted that Marquette was his runner up and he knows that for a fact. Ugh.

Could be a good sign if Matthews and Stone were thinking about being a package deal.

[Norm]

Norm, what would be interesting to see is how many of these are in-state (or local) versus out of state.  For instance, Wisconsin's one recruit is Sam Dekker.  Let me go out on a limb here and say that if Dekker grew up in California, Wisconsin's not going to get him.

That makes a difference.  And probably why we were Matthew's #2 and why we are in it for Stone.

A lot of the SEC schools' top 20 recruits were from in-state, as well as others. It does help being the home state public university.

[wadesworld]

Could be a good sign if Matthews and Stone were thinking about being a package deal.

Would be an even better sign if Matthews does in fact reclassify.

[Dawson Rental]

Bullseye bros just tweeted that Marquette was his runner up and he knows that for a fact. Ugh.

Hey, that means that we finished ahead of Michigan State, Kansas, and Illinois.  I can't think of when that has ever happened before.

[ecompt]

I'm starting to have my doubts that we will ever land a top 15 recruit. This kid went to a catholic school in chicago. If we couldn't get him I dont see us ever getting one, as I thought this was our best chance at an out of state kid. Oh well, I still think JJJ is gonna be a stud!!

We will have a very hard time ever getting a kid who has an offer from UK. No classes, no papers to write, 24/7 chef service in a private dorm, perks (cough, cough). Who wouldn't take that?

[GooooMarquette]

Okay, I looked real quick at where the top 20 recruits from each of the last 5 recruiting classes on RSCI end up going to, and unless you're a true "blue blood" program, with some exceptions, it is hard to recruit these types of players. Here's the ranking of schools with the number of their top 20 recruits over the past 5 recruiting cycles (not including the incoming classes for next year):

Kentucky - 19
North Carolina - 6
Arizona - 6
Duke - 6
Kansas - 5
Florida - 5
Texas - 5
Memphis - 4
UCLA - 3
Baylor - 3
Pitt - 3
Indiana - 2
Arkansas - 2
Oklahoma State - 2
Providence - 2
Michigan State - 2
NC State - 2
Syracuse - 2
Washington - 2
Ohio State - 2
Villanova - 2

LSU, UTEP, Cal, UNLV, Wisconsin, Georgia, Oregon, Tennessee, Missouri, Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Cincinnati, Oklahoma, Kansas State, UConn and Florida State have all landed one top 20 recruit in the past 5 recruiting cycles.

And this also shows that getting top 20 recruits isn't necessary or sufficient for post-season success.  MU has done better in recent NCAAs than most of the teams on the list, without getting a single top 20 recruit.  Look at Texas - 5 top 20 players, and not a single Sweet Sixteen since 2008.  Or Memphis, with 4 top 20s, and its last Sweet Sixteen in 2009.

Not a single player on the list for MU, or Butler, or Wichita State, or VCU....

Don't get me wrong - I'd love for one of these guys (Stone?) to come to MU.  But I also think a coach like Buzz can generally do extremely well consistently recruiting guys in the 50-100 range.

[Sunbelt15]

We will have a very hard time ever getting a kid who has an offer from UK. No classes, no papers to write, 24/7 chef service in a private dorm, perks (cough, cough). Who wouldn't take that?

Exactly! It's surprising how many people that don't believe that. Too many perks over there for top recruits. Milwaukee needs to produce its own top recruit then Marquette needs to butter his bread.

[Nevada233]

He probably wanted to play more than 5-10 MPG as a Freshmen...

[Dawson Rental]

He probably wanted to play more than 5-10 MPG as a Freshmen...

I'm confused.  Are you stupid enough to believe what you just posted, or are you just saying crap that you know isn't true because you are frustrated that Buzz doesn't evaluate the current freshmens' current level of development the same as you do?

[RatedR]

He probably wanted to play more than 5-10 MPG as a Freshmen...

I dont blame him. He is really good.

[GoldenWarrior11]

I wish him well at UK.  

Regardless of his decision, there has not been this much excitement over incoming recruits to Marquette in a LONG time.  Whether that's the the culture Buzz has created, or the winning success we have experienced, or (most likely) both, blue chip high school basketball players view Marquette as a legitimate landing spot to attend college.  

Hard to see how or why anyone could have sour grapes at this point...

[RatedR]

Exactly! It's surprising how many people that don't believe that. Too many perks over there for top recruits. Milwaukee needs to produce its own top recruit then Marquette needs to butter his bread.

true. Milwaukee do need to start producing top recruits like Looney and Stone

[Nevada233]

I'm confused.  Are you stupid enough to believe what you just posted, or are you just saying crap that you know isn't true because you are frustrated that Buzz doesn't evaluate the current freshmens' current level of development the same as you do?

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

[Windyplayer]

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

Your faulty logic is burying you even further. If Matthews is truly a one-and-done talent, he would play huge minutes under Buzz--he doesn't blindly adhere to this 4-year process that you reference.

And if he's not a one-and-done, his minutes will reflect that over the course of his freshman year regardless of where he goes.

Cal, Coach K, and co. are not playing guys based on their high school reputation. That would make them horrendous coaches. Their freshman do get big minutes because they are in fact one-and-done talents.

[RatedR]

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

im with u. I understood what u meant

[Tugg Speedman]

Norm, what would be interesting to see is how many of these are in-state (or local) versus out of state.  For instance, Wisconsin's one recruit is Sam Dekker.  Let me go out on a limb here and say that if Dekker grew up in California, Wisconsin's not going to get him.

That makes a difference.  And probably why we were Matthew's #2 and why we are in it for Stone.

+!

Why do you think Schools like Baylor and Texas are on the list?  They are not basketball blue-bloods but are located near top 20 recruits.

My guess is away from the top 5 or 6 true blood-blood programs, the rest of the schools that landed a top 20 kid got one that lived within 150 miles of campus.  It matters where you're located relative to where the kids are being produced.

[GGGG]

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

You are really thin skinned.

But if you have an idea that Buzz doesn't play freshmen BECAUSE they are freshmen, you indeed don't know very much.

[🏀]

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

Due to your posting frequency, you have become the worst poster this season.

[Dawson Rental]

I didn't say anything about Buzz you did..... Remember that... All I said is maybe as the #11 ranked player he actually wants to play as a Freshmen... To some people College is "NOT" a 4 year process and they just want to play a Year or 2 and go pro.... If thats the case then why not go to Memphis, Kentucky or Duke play one and be done... You don't know me from anywhere dont question my personal opinion on the subject you loser..

Ignorance is not an opinion.

Let's see, a guy whose probably going to start as a freshman at Kentucky you say would only play 5 to 10 minutes at Marquette.  And this statement does not say anything about the head coach of Marquette.  Got it.  

I know you from your posts here, and I have limited my reaction to those.  Outside of the outrageous statement I am responding to, I have no reason to doubt that you are a kind, thoughtful and wonderful human being.

[reinko]

Due to your posting frequency, you have become the worst poster this season.

Hey, stop that.  He is a big deal according to the poster who shall not be named.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

He probably wanted to play more than 5-10 MPG as a Freshmen...

Then he should have came to MU hes "only" the 12th ranked recruit. Kentucky will recruit over him.

[willie warrior]

Could be a good sign if Matthews and Stone were thinking about being a package deal.

If that is what they have been thinking then the reading of the signs would say Stone also goes to Crooktucky.