Horrendously coached year...

[BenCat12]

What makes you believe that Juan and STJr don't know their roles?

Their body language on the court and their playing time.  They often look extremely confused, STjr on defense and Juan on offense.  One game STjr is the hero (Georgetown) than he doesn't get on the court for a week.  Juan starts and plays 3 minutes one game and 22 the next.  I don't fault them, it is extremely difficult to come in and be effective when you've sat for a week.  I know a guy who played professionally for a couple of years in the NBA and overseas. He always said the hardest thing was going from being a college star to being a bench guy in the pros.  He said the NBA was especially difficult because he would go a week at a time with DNP's.  Point is even if Buzz is communicating with them, it is difficult to not have a routine or consistency with your playing time.

[4everwarriors]

i think "horrendous" is a pretty harsh word to describe anything this team has done this year.  some weaknesses, yes, but, come on man!!  horrendous would be like a surgeon removing the wrong-fill-in-the-blank body part or something

Penis

[Pakuni]

We'll lose 2 of Duane Wilson, Jajuan Johnson, Deonte Burton and Steve Taylor.

I forget ... is that more or fewer players than you had getting kicked out over academics a couple years back?

Bunch o' drama queens around here today. 
And I say that as someone thoroughly disappointed by today's effort, and the season overall.

[bilsu]

I wonder how much playing time the freshmen really tought they were going to get when they signed. I do not think Dawson expected to play ahead of either Wilson, so overall I have to believe he has played more than he expected when he signed. JJJ when he signed was behind Blue and Mayo, so he should of not expected much playing time. It is hard to say what Burton was expecting, but with the senior front court he should not have expected as much time as he is getting. He also would have had to fight Mckay for playing time, if McKay had not transferred. The only reason I think anyone is transferring is because Buzz continues to recruit for 2014.

[NickelDimer]

Not at all, thought you might need pictures, not sure what your reading level is based on your posts.

Buuuuurn!!

[mu-rara]

I could care less if you respect my basketball knowledge.  But your blind loyalty to a guy who has a had a terrible season is pathetic.  

I really ought to put you on ignore, but your statements are dumber than Willie, so I want to see if you get even more ridiculous.

[forgetful]

An 8 page thread responding to a troll.  Anyone care to post a summary.

[BenCat12]

I really ought to put you on ignore, but your statements are dumber than Willie, so I want to see if you get even more ridiculous.

Oh please don't put me on ignore.....I will be heart broken.
Nice factual rebuttal to my posts that you disagree with though, thanks for setting me straight and letting me know where I was wrong.

BTW, for those that didn't get the "All American" remark check the status of this guy and the amount of posts.

He's an "expert," just ask him.

[chapman]

One game STjr is the hero (Georgetown) than he doesn't get on the court for a week.  Juan starts and plays 3 minutes one game and 22 the next.

Noticed many of these inconsistencies.  Seems Buzz just doesn't have many answers this year, and the erratically inconsistent assignment of roles and minutes is a sign of his desperation.  JJJ and Burton starting for a few games, then JJJ getting DNPs and Burton as little as three minutes.  Jake being the last guy off the bench in a couple of those games then never leaving the court shortly after.  Dawson gradually getting increased minutes, then after one lackluster performance resetting back to DNPs.  Juan buried at the end of the bench, then back to starting.  Gardner going through a six game stretch where he didn't play less than 34 minutes, then a seven game stretch averaging 23.  The Jamil point guard experiment.

[jimmybutlerfanatic]

Nope, I understood that.  OJ Mayo is not forking out $30,000 so that Buzz can get an extra scholarship player on his team, one who could potentially compete for minutes with his brother.  Doug McDermott is not paying a dime for his schooling.  He goes to school for free because his father is an employee of the university.  Todd's dad is not his coach, and Todd is not getting free tuition outside of a basketball scholarship.

So it went like this 4 years ago?

Creighton AD: Congratulations Coach McDermott! Welcome to the staff. As an employee all your kids can get their education here for free as one of your perks.

Coach McDermott: That's great! But my son Doug will be designated a scholarship player here if you want him on the basketball team. We McDermott's are a proud people and come from a long lineage of scholarship atheletes.

Creighton AD But Coach. He can still be on the team as a walk on. And since you're the head coach now you can play him as much or as little as you want. Plus why not give another kid a free education by not giving Doug the scholarship. You'll have an extra player on the team due to Doug's walk-on status. Did I mention that Doug can attend school here for free without you using up a scholarship for the basketball team?

Coach McDermott Doug gets a scholarship to Creighton or I walk and take my son with me.

I won't put anything past anyone living in the state of NE, but something doesn't seem right about what you're suggesting. Everything going into this year was how Doug gave up his scholarship to come back and what a hero he is for doing that. But he never needed the scholarship anyway since his dad was an employee of the university?

$30,000 seems like strip club make it rain money for an NBA player. And we've seen how loyal Buzz is to seniors. Todd wouldn't be fighting anyone for minutes. Plus him and Burton are the only 2 players on the team who have heart and that look in their eyes like they want to win. Everyone else lacks this.

[MerrittsMustache]

I won't put anything past anyone living in the state of NE, but something doesn't seem right about what you're suggesting. Everything going into this year was how Doug gave up his scholarship to come back and what a hero he is for doing that. But he never needed the scholarship anyway since his dad was an employee of the university?

Doug McDermott is paying full tuition. The NCAA requires a coach be at a school for 5 years in order for his son to qualify for free tuition. Greg McDermott has been at Creighton since 2010. That said, Greg is getting paid over $1M so the $30K in tuition isn't going to break him.

[MerrittsMustache]

After reading through some of the angry posts on this thread, I'm really starting to doubt the notion that ignorance is bliss.

[jimmybutlerfanatic]

Doug McDermott is paying full tuition. The NCAA requires a coach be at a school for 5 years in order for his son to qualify for free tuition. Greg McDermott has been at Creighton since 2010. That said, Greg is getting paid over $1M so the $30K in tuition isn't going to break him.

Yahoo! says: OJ Mayo getting paid $8 million this year.

Wikipedia says: On April 25, 2013, McDermott announced he would be returning to Creighton for his senior season and would not be entering the 2013 NBA Draft.[6] That July, he relinquished his scholarship and became a walk-on for his final season at Creighton. This came about after the NCAA had granted senior guard Grant Gibbs, who had missed full seasons at both Gonzaga and Creighton with injuries, a rare sixth year of eligibility, putting Creighton over the NCAA's limit of 13 scholarships in the 2013–14 season.[7]

Can't I be in my happy place and think that since MU is over on scholarships that no one will transfer and OJ will pay for Todd's schooling for 1 year?!

[connie]

Given the astounding amount of criticism leveled at just about every player on the team not named "Flood" I am astounded that we have now begun to simultaneously criticize the coaching of a team that is currently in THIRD FREAKING PLACE in the conference.  Which is it, the players that can't play or the coach that can't coach?  Make up your minds because your little pity party is getting old.

What a bunch of spoiled f%#$.  One disappointing year out of six and you turn into a pack of whiny little bitc@#$.

[forgetful]

Given the astounding amount of criticism leveled at just about every player on the team not named "Flood" I am astounded that we have now begun to simultaneously criticize the coaching of a team that is currently in THIRD FREAKING PLACE in the conference.  Which is it, the players that can't play or the coach that can't coach?  Make up your minds because your little pity party is getting old.

What a bunch of spoiled f%#$.  One disappointing year out of six and you turn into a pack of whiny little bitc@#$.

+1

[NavinRJohnson]

Given the astounding amount of criticism leveled at just about every player on the team not named "Flood" I am astounded that we have now begun to simultaneously criticize the coaching of a team that is currently in THIRD FREAKING PLACE in the conference.  Which is it, the players that can't play or the coach that can't coach?  Make up your minds because your little pity party is getting old.

What a bunch of spoiled f%#$.  One disappointing year out of six and you turn into a pack of whiny little bitc@#$.

On the money. The whiney bitch brigade has been out of control. Just a sad and pathetic lot.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

About as useful as anything you've said this year... Clown

I love a guy wearing a foam rubber nose calling people "clowns."

"You don't know who I am."

I do. You're a total Bozo. A laughable boob.

[brandx]

Their body language on the court and their playing time.  They often look extremely confused, STjr on defense and Juan on offense.  

The body language I saw today was Juan laughing and hugging buzz - during the game.

[PVMagic]

I'd always thought Marquette had a very good and very intelligent fan base.  Buzz has taken criticism every year (and much of it deserved or at least thoughtful criticism).  This year, while yes, the team maybe hasn't met expectations (that probably weren't tempered enough after the loss of Blue and even DuWil's injury), our fan base has been, well, horrendous.  It's embarrassing.

[Wojo'sMojo]

Clearly Buzz has been a successful coach. Why some people think he is above criticism however is baffling. Every coach makes mistakes that they wish they could change. This year has been a roller coaster of up and down playing time for multiple players and is confusing. Posters give their view...good grief it's a fricken fan message board! Why do some posters get so bent out of shape when others offer their insight? Because you don't share the same opinion? Get over it!

[Niv Berkowitz]

On the money. The whiney bitch brigade has been out of control. Just a sad and pathetic lot.

+1,000,000

We need a set of acronyms to be used here to just save us all from the constant BS rants on DW, Buzz, etc. it's so tiring. The same arguments and comments and opinions spoken by the same core guys in a trillion different ways.

BCC - Buzz can't coach
DWSRRRB - Derrick Wilson sucks really really really bad
WWJJJP - why won't JJJ play!?
WWDP - why won't Dawson play!?
WDDWP - why does DW play!?
Etc...

[Nevada233]

Yahoo! says: OJ Mayo getting paid $8 million this year.

Wikipedia says: On April 25, 2013, McDermott announced he would be returning to Creighton for his senior season and would not be entering the 2013 NBA Draft.[6] That July, he relinquished his scholarship and became a walk-on for his final season at Creighton. This came about after the NCAA had granted senior guard Grant Gibbs, who had missed full seasons at both Gonzaga and Creighton with injuries, a rare sixth year of eligibility, putting Creighton over the NCAA's limit of 13 scholarships in the 2013–14 season.[7]

Can't I be in my happy place and think that since MU is over on scholarships that no one will transfer and OJ will pay for Todd's schooling for 1 year?!

OJ is not gonna pay for Todd to go to Marquette ha ha No way...

McDermott and Creighton recruited and offered that same scholarship that Grant Gibbs is on to this kid from New Mexico who turned it down and wound up going to a school in Milwaukee oh his name is John Dawson. . . .

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/162866/john-dawson

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

You all sound drunk right now.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think this was well written.

I can give you my own perspective having a couple D 1 kids. I think the mistake Buzz is making is that there are plenty of opportunities , within his own historical coaching style, to keep everyone relatively happy and build team chemistry. Kids who come to a program like ours are all stars from wherever they came from and not used to being benched. The people around them tend to have unrealistic expectations. So when you sit these kids for games on end and the players they are sitting behind bad will is created and it is fed by family friends etc who don't have the full picture.  I can tell you from experience I have heard many parents who have a radically different view of their kids talent than what reality was and abett their kids in bad transfer  decisions. Logic would say that all the freshman have bright futures starting next year, but my experience says there are many illogical voices they listen to.

Thank you for your response. I agree that students and the people around them don't necessarily see the same things as logical that I do. I guess that is my fatal flaw in this arguement. Tim Maymon certainly didn't see things my way. But I guess I would agree with some others and say that this is no reason for Buzz to change course from his game plan. I want him to win now, not appease players who may or may not make us better in the future.

However, I will agree that if I were Buzz, I would have found a little more time in garbage minutes earlier in the season to get some guy some more reps. I also agree that Derrick gets gassed when he plays 40 minutes and any negative Dawson brings is far outweighed by the positive of simply giving Derrick a short breather.

[MUSF]

Just out of curiosity, why would any high ranked HIGH SCHOOL player want to come here, based on what has happened this year?  

The same reason that a team like Villanova can end up as a top 10 team and still get recruits after some down years. The ability/personality of the coach and the culture of the program.

Our one down season in several years still puts us in the top half of a good conference and just on the edge of the tourney bubble. Relax.