Creighton is head and shoulders better than...

[KenoshaWarrior]

Anyone we have played this year.
They remind me a lot of those West Virginia teams of the mid 2000's; but better!!.  Instead of a guy like Pittsnogle they got a real stud like McDermott.

[MileHigh]

They were superb last night and if they continue this rate, they can make a deep run in the tourney.

The outside shooting opens up the middle.  Their continual movement, screens, etc...get players free.  As the middle opens, they get to the hoop.  I liked the idea of switching last night through the screens, but they found mis-matches which was bound to happen.  If you didn't switch, there could potentially be more uncontested drives at the hoop.

Point is, they are good.  Got the perfect mix.

[willie warrior]

And other than McDermott who is a stud, they are doing it with 2 and 3 start players. Coaching?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Anyone we have played this year.
They remind me a lot of those West Virginia teams of the mid 2000's; but better!!.  Instead of a guy like Pittsnogle they got a real stud like McDermott.

That's a great comparison.

[MarquetteDano]

I think I am really the only person not drinking the Creighton kool aid.  I do not believe they are head and shoulders above every team we've played.  Offensively, yes, they are head and shoulders above anyone.  But defensively, there are ten teams we have played who are better.

Ohio State beat us more convincingly that Creighton did.  San Diego State was pretty darn good.  And they beat Creighton as well.  Wisconsin would beat them in Madison.

There have been years where we have played Louisville, Connecticut, Georgetown, or Syracuse where they were Top 20 offensive and defensive teams.  Creighton is nowhere near a Top 20 defensive team.

[Skatastrophy]

And other than McDermott who is a stud, they are doing it with 2 and 3 start players. Coaching?

McDermott is the coach on the floor. He was expertly roaming around the floor on O without the ball, causing defensive switches. He was tangling our defense up on his own, creating favorable matchups for his teammates.

College basketball will miss a heady player like that once he's graduated. Really fun to watch him last night (when the refs weren't doing their attention-grabbing whistle-blowing act).

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I think I am really the only person not drinking the Creighton kool aid.  I do not believe they are head and shoulders above every team we've played.  Offensively, yes, they are head and shoulders above anyone.  But defensively, there are ten teams we have played who are better.

Ohio State beat us more convincingly that Creighton did.  San Diego State was pretty darn good.  And they beat Creighton as well.  Wisconsin would beat them in Madison.

There have been years where we have played Louisville, Connecticut, Georgetown, or Syracuse where they were Top 20 offensive and defensive teams.  Creighton is nowhere near a Top 20 defensive team.

At the time we played them' I thought Wisconsin was the best team we've played. Now I think Creighton is. IMO Ohio State is not very good...that was an awful game (18-18 at half!).

[CTWarrior]

At the time we played them' I thought Wisconsin was the best team we've played. Now I think Creighton is. IMO Ohio State is not very good...that was an awful game (18-18 at half!).

Agree about Ohio State.  They were the first team that decided that they weren't going to guard Derrick Wilson at all, and we didn't know how to handle it.  We've improved working around that a great deal since then.

As for whether Wisconsin or Creighton is better, it depends on who is playing them.  While we wouldn't have a ton of success against them, if we were to play them both 100 times we would beat Wisconsin far more often than we would beat Creighton.

[KenoshaWarrior]

McDermott is the coach on the floor. He was expertly roaming around the floor on O without the ball, causing defensive switches. He was tangling our defense up on his own, creating favorable matchups for his teammates.

College basketball will miss a heady player like that once he's graduated. Really fun to watch him last night (when the refs weren't doing their attention-grabbing whistle-blowing act).

I almost think we are doing a diservice calling him a "heady" player.  The connotation of "heady" player is that he is just a really good "White" basketball player.   This is not the case, he is a great any color basketball player.  Is he smart and heady?  Yea i would say so, but to say that takes away his superior athletic gifts that the dude has.   His cuts to the rim were quick and precise,  his movement off the ball is superior!!!  He was faster than any player that we had on the floor, and he is a giant width wise!!

[wadesworld]

I almost think we are doing a diservice calling him a "heady" player.  The connotation of "heady" player is that he is just a really good "White" basketball player.   This is not the case, he is a great any color basketball player.  Is he smart and heady?  Yea i would say so, but to say that takes away his superior athletic gifts that the dude has.   His cuts to the rim were quick and precise,  his movement off the ball is superior!!!  He was faster than any player that we had on the floor, and he is a giant width wise!!

He is an extremely heady player.  Why is he so good?  Because he is incredibly intelligent, knows how to move around the court efficiently, and knows how to get people off balance.  He knows where everyone will/should be on the court and he uses it to his advantage.  He isn't just taking the ball and blowing by his defender one on one.  He's using his teammates and the spacing and getting his defender to lean one way or get in the air.  McDermott is an average athlete relative to a high major D1 athlete).  He is as good as they are from the neck up.  He is a slightly better Adam Morrison, and we all know what Adam Morrison did in the NBA.  McDermott will be a role player (aka shooter) in the NBA and nothing more.  He is much more than that in college because he is heady.

[CreightonWarrior]

And other than McDermott who is a stud, they are doing it with 2 and 3 start players. Coaching?

We have high IQ guys who can knock down shots and take care of the ball. In this system where passing and taking the best shots is crucial these guys fit the system perfectly.

Dont know if its been mentioned hear but Wragge actually had a scholarship to Marquette but turned it down to come to Creighton.

[wadesworld]

Agree about Ohio State.  They were the first team that decided that they weren't going to guard Derrick Wilson at all, and we didn't know how to handle it.  We've improved working around that a great deal since then.

As for whether Wisconsin or Creighton is better, it depends on who is playing them.  While we wouldn't have a ton of success against them, if we were to play them both 100 times we would beat Wisconsin far more often than we would beat Creighton.

Ohio State sucks.  But they could go further than both Wisconsin and Creighton the NCAAs.  Creighton is a beefed up Wisconsin.  Very tough to beat in the regular season, get a nice little seed for themselves, and then are very susceptible to one cold night shooting against a lesser opponent.  The best thing they have going for them is that McDermott can pick the rest of the team up.  But they will give up points in the NCAAs.  We will see.

[willie warrior]

Ohio State sucks.  But they could go further than both Wisconsin and Creighton the NCAAs.  Creighton is a beefed up Wisconsin.  Very tough to beat in the regular season, get a nice little seed for themselves, and then are very susceptible to one cold night shooting against a lesser opponent.  The best thing they have going for them is that McDermott can pick the rest of the team up.  But they will give up points in the NCAAs.  We will see.

Ohio State sucks? As I recall, they kicked our ass. How do you feel about that and our performance?

[KenoshaWarrior]

He is an extremely heady player.  Why is he so good?  Because he is incredibly intelligent, knows how to move around the court efficiently, and knows how to get people off balance.  He knows where everyone will/should be on the court and he uses it to his advantage.  He isn't just taking the ball and blowing by his defender one on one.  He's using his teammates and the spacing and getting his defender to lean one way or get in the air.  McDermott is an average athlete relative to a high major D1 athlete).  He is as good as they are from the neck up.  He is a slightly better Adam Morrison, and we all know what Adam Morrison did in the NBA.  McDermott will be a role player (aka shooter) in the NBA and nothing more.  He is much more than that in college because he is heady.

Their was nothing that I saw yesterday that would support your claim that he was is an average athlete.  When you compare him to Adam Morrison you are not giving McDermott the credit he deserves.  The fact that you are comparing him to another white player is actually super lazy.   If you put a bag over McDermotts head you would not come up with an Adam Morrison comparison.  He was more athletic than many of our "athletes."  He was quicker on cuts, he was bigger physically than many of our players.        The comparison I think is more fitting is that of wider Reggie Miller.

[79Warrior]

And other than McDermott who is a stud, they are doing it with 2 and 3 start players. Coaching?

Who cares how many "stars" their players have?

coaching? Sure, Buzz missed all the free throws as well as being unable to hit the big shots.

How about Creighton has more talent and is the better team. I don't care who the Marquette coach was last night, we were not winning that game with the current players we have.

[wadesworld]

Their was nothing that I saw yesterday that would support your claim that he was is an average athlete.  When you compare him to Adam Morrison you are not giving McDermott the credit he deserves.  The fact that you are comparing him to another white player is actually super lazy.   If you put a bag over McDermotts head you would not come up with an Adam Morrison comparison.  He was more athletic than many of our "athletes."  He was quicker on cuts, he was bigger physically than many of our players.        The comparison I think is more fitting is that of wider Reggie Miller.

He is not "quicker on cuts." He is more efficient with his feet.  Big difference.

[Nukem2]

The thing with Creighton is having 2 forwards in Wragge and McBuckets who can really open the court with their 3 point shooting..  The Blue Jays will be an entirely different team next year without those two as well as Gibbs and Manigat.  More guard oriented with seniors-to-be Chatman and Brooks along with junior-to-be Zierden.  Beyond that, a lot of serviceable guys, but no one approaching this senior class.

[willie warrior]

Who cares how many "stars" their players have?

coaching? Sure, Buzz missed all the free throws as well as being unable to hit the big shots.

How about Creighton has more talent and is the better team. I don't care who the Marquette coach was last night, we were not winning that game with the current players we have.

I agree that Creighton is better and has more talent. Guess who is responsible for that?

[79Warrior]

I agree that Creighton is better and has more talent. Guess who is responsible for that?

On that we agree.

[NavinRJohnson]

I almost think we are doing a diservice calling him a "heady" player.  The connotation of "heady" player is that he is just a really good "White" basketball player.   This is not the case, he is a great any color basketball player.  Is he smart and heady?  Yea i would say so, but to say that takes away his superior athletic gifts that the dude has. 

What the hell are you talking about? You kow who else is an incredibly "heady" player? LeBron James.

[mu-rara]

What the hell are you talking about? You kow who else is an incredibly "heady" player? LeBron James.

Jamil Wilson is a smart player too.  Sometimes to the point that he overthinks situations.

[towncryer]

As a Marquette fan in Omaha, I can't tell you how much I wish it wasn't true...but Creighton is a very good team.  It'll be interesting to see if they go deep enough in March to face one of the big powerhouse programs.  They got beat pretty handily by Duke last year in the tourney...but this year CU looks like they know who they are and play to their strengths more. 

With all that said, they've got tough times ahead without Doug, Wragge, Manigat, and Gibbs (good guy for the locker room). 

I think we'll get at least one of two next year from CU.