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jesmu84

1. Creighton is just the type of team we're going to have trouble with
2. Early fouls in the 2nd half swung this game bigtime
3. Although MU got to with 3-4 several times, it never really felt like Creighton was losing control
4. Gardner was outplayed by Otule on both ends of the floor. Plus, Creighton is a TERRIBLE matchup for Gardner
5. Jamil was ineffective tonight. Really could have used something from him in the first half
6. Mayo looked like he was trying to do too much once we cut it close
7. Solid on the defensive end until late. Not much you can do when Doug is hitting from halfcourt
8. Creighton's 5-out offensive is tough to stop when they can all shoot. You've gotta be in their grill, but that opens up cutting/driving lanes and backdoor cuts
9. 12/22 3s is tough to overcome. And I wouldn't say many of those were uncontested
10. 20/36 from the FT line is not going to get it done.

GGGG

Creighton is simply better. I really have no idea what Marquette could have done differently.

NickelDimer

Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 19, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Creighton is simply better. I really have no idea what Marquette could have done differently.
Idk, I think they had chances to take the lead only to blow all those chances with dumb plays.  Would've been interesting had they taken the lead.  They didn't play that well...left a lot out there
No Finish Line

downtown85

11. the Creighton fan was correct about the refs having an influence on the game.  I am not saying they were unfair I am just saying they called all the flops.  both theirs and ours. 

GooooMarquette

Agree that Creighton is just better...but we didn't execute down the stretch on plays that could have gotten us right back into  the game.  Mayo getting stripped on the breakaway was a killer.

GGGG

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 19, 2014, 09:28:47 PM
Idk, I think they had chances to take the lead only to blow all those chances with dumb plays.  Would've been interesting had they taken the lead.  They didn't play that well...left a lot out there

I guess what I meant is outside of playing better. I thought the game plan and personnel were fine.

NickelDimer

Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 19, 2014, 09:33:25 PM
I guess what I meant is outside of playing better. I thought the game plan and personnel were fine.
Yeah this wasn't on Buzz...regardless of what some will say
No Finish Line

MUeng

so is it official now?  need to win the tourney to get in?  Even if we beat villanova only having one good win won't do it.  just my amateur opinion

nyg

Can't blame fouls.  CU had 30 to MU's 22.  Just seemed bad in second half.

I thought DWil was abit gassed in second half.  Never left the game.

No JJJ, no Dawson, limited Juan, limited Taylor, limited Burton to fouls.  

Said in another thread, this was the most a team has layed off Dwil on the perimeter.  They left him at free throw line wide open.  That is real liability, but Buzz has no other solutions at this point.  Shame.

Maybe if free throws fell early in game, it might have changed the team's mindset, but didn't happen.

Jamil had to step up and didn't happen.  Terrible offensive game, terrible defensive game, especially when he picked up 3 fouls in five minutes.

Got it close at times, then mistakes/turnovers happened.  Opened second half with 4 turnovers in first five possessions.   


Niv Berkowitz

My thoughts are that Creighton is a really awesomely balanced team and will go far in the tourney. Period, the better team won.

MUfan12

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 19, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
My thoughts are that Creighton is a really awesomely balanced team and will go far in the tourney. Period, the better team won.

If they draw a team like a SDSU or SJU that has a lot of long, athletic wings, they're in trouble.

karavotsos

Quote from: nyg on February 19, 2014, 09:40:04 PM
Can't blame fouls.  CU had 30 to MU's 22.  Just seemed bad in second half.




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That's a ridiculous way to look at it.  I was there.  This game was unwatchable.  The officials totally took over.  MU was just trying to play basketball.  I don't want to watch if its officiated that way.  I would like to hear anyone say that they thought this was a good basketball game, or that it suffered because of the players.  Just a shame.

Niv Berkowitz

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 19, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
If they draw a team like a SDSU or SJU that has a lot of long, athletic wings, they're in trouble.

Not if Creighton plays with balance like it has all year. And they are über composed. IMHO.

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 19, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Creighton is simply better. I really have no idea what Marquette could have done differently.

I agree that Creighton is simply better, but I have a few ideas what Marquette could have done differently.

How about if we start with something as simple as making a few of the 16 freakin' free throws we missed?

Also, maybe not lose track of Wragge for six 3-pointers? It's actually a fairly simple assignment but whoever was on him seemed to lose focus for a brief second and then - bang - it was too late.

Also, how about not giving up about a half-dozen wide-open layups?

Also, needed more out of Jamil.

So there's a start. Not sure if all of that would have added up to victory but at least doing a few of those things differently might have kept us from getting wiped out on our home court.
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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 19, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Creighton is simply better. I really have no idea what Marquette could have done differently.

I said basically this same thing about 3-4 times during the game. Sometimes you just get beat by a better team.

MUfan12

Quote from: karavotsos on February 19, 2014, 09:50:10 PM
That's a ridiculous way to look at it.  I was there.  This game was unwatchable.  The officials totally took over.  MU was just trying to play basketball.  I don't want to watch if its officiated that way.  I would like to hear anyone say that they thought this was a good basketball game, or that it suffered because of the players.  Just a shame.

It was horrendous. Bad calls both ways, but the treatment McDermott got was absurd. No one had any idea what a foul was. Did it influence the outcome? No. But it sure as hell influenced the game.

muwarrior97

I used to love Jamil's pink sneaks BUT tonight showed it is time to retire them, needed a whole lot more from Jamil and whole lot more missed buckets by them Jay shooters
#RGV #ReturnTheWarriorMindset

MattyWarrior

Creighton flops and wins the Big East in its first year in the league. We miss 15 FTs.Nobody steps up for MU. Deflating game to be at. NIT this year with our talent. Credit them for building a team that plays together and smart.Coach McD must be a savant
Place seemed half-full for a huge game.

Boards

Burton had 11 points. Why did he only play 10 minutes?

madtownwarrior

So is this Creighton's year with McDermott, Wragge and 2 other senior starters?

Will they take a step back next year or have they got replenishments in the recruitment pipeline?


79Warrior

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 19, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
My thoughts are that Creighton is a really awesomely balanced team and will go far in the tourney. Period, the better team won.

Correct. They are much better than MU and will be dangerous in the NCAA  tourney. So many shooters.

WayOfTheWarrior

I wish we had the refs from the Xavier game last Saturday...what can you do?
I wish Denzel Washington was there tonight to say a few words like - "LET THE BOYS PLAY!"

Make half our misses from the stripe, different game in the last 4 minutes.

Tough to keep McDoormat down for more than a half. Killed us in the 2nd with 17 big ones.

When we would go on a little run to get back in it, we just couldn't seem to get over the hump like teams in the past couple years. Foul calls affect pacing and rhythm of the game, but so do mistakes in transition like Todd made.

Basically have to win at Nova and then sweep MSG (20+ wins) to make it into the dance. Tall order for this team.

Those in attendance tonight included Scottie Pippen and OJ Mayo.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: 79Warrior on February 19, 2014, 10:49:19 PM
Correct. They are much better than MU and will be dangerous in the NCAA  tourney. So many shooters.

Agreed, but with the way they rely on shooting, they're one of those teams that will have 1 bad game out of every 6 when playing other good teams.  I think they're a great team, but they're also a team very susceptible to have a "bad" game in the NCAA tourney.

T-Bone

Adding one - fans in attendance were good tonight. I thought the constant booing of Creighton when they had the ball was awesome - while it lasted.
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Coleman

Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 19, 2014, 10:46:40 PM
So is this Creighton's year with McDermott, Wragge and 2 other senior starters?

Will they take a step back next year or have they got replenishments in the recruitment pipeline?



In the short term (next 2-3 years), this is it for them; this is their year. They will finish 6-8 in the Big East next year. Their incoming classes are nothing spectacular

In the long term they will be fine. They have a solid program set up and are in a good conference

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