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GooooMarquette

Good to see SLU doing well (and fulfilling Rick's prediction).

Goose

I love that big time. The man was one of the greatest teachers of basketball the game ever saw. Seldom does a ball conversation with peers goes without a Rick mention.

Galway Eagle

Could somebody explain to me why he seemed to have problems coaching at MU? I mean he clearly was a great coach but he didn't bring us anywhere close to what he did at the other 3 schools.  Note before anybody spazz's out and thinks I'm insulting him... I respect him I'm just curious. 
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Aughnanure

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 18, 2014, 11:49:59 AM
Could somebody explain to me why he seemed to have problems coaching at MU? I mean he clearly was a great coach but he didn't bring us anywhere close to what he did at the other 3 schools.  Note before anybody spazz's out and thinks I'm insulting him... I respect him I'm just curious. 

Too early/young? Too much pressure replacing a legend?

Really disappointing to look back on it. Could've been our perfect coach for the 90s.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence


real chili 83

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 18, 2014, 11:49:59 AM
Could somebody explain to me why he seemed to have problems coaching at MU? I mean he clearly was a great coach but he didn't bring us anywhere close to what he did at the other 3 schools.  Note before anybody spazz's out and thinks I'm insulting him... I respect him I'm just curious. 

HC is a much different role than assistant.  He was asked to make that leap under very difficult circumstances.....high expectations with a big spotlight on him. Rick had the talent to perform as HC, he just needed time to develop into that role.  In an environment of high expectations, its difficult to learn on the job.

Goose

Too young and too much pressure, both internal and external pressure. Leaving MU was best thing for him in the long run. While I was very pissed when he left I learned to understand it was the right move for him. Love him or hate him no one can deny he was one of best of all time.

GGGG

And the Marquette community had yet to come to the realization that the McGuire years were further in the rear view mirror than they actually were so the external pressures were completely unrealistic.

This is how bad Marquette basketball had gotten...

In the span of just over 12 years, Marquette had gone from winning the national championship to joining what is now the Horizon League.  Just think about that for a second.

Goose



muhoops1

I was very young when he left, but isn't it safe to assume that expectations were very high for Rick?  Assuming his direct ties to the McGuire era and the fact he was the third one down the bench...fans and alumni expected a return to the Glory Days that at the time weren't so far away.

Not to denegrate him posthumously, but didn't he have some odd complaints against him at Utah and SLU?  Showed his little Ricky when demonstrating a 6" spacing for defensive players.

GGGG

Quote from: Goose on February 18, 2014, 12:01:31 PM
Sultan

What are you talking about?


That the performance expectations exceeded the school's ability to produce given the environment in which the basketball program operated.  It was still being run like a 1970s program...not a modern one. 


Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 18, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
In the span of just over 12 years, Marquette had gone from winning the national championship to joining what is now the Horizon League.  Just think about that for a second.

Rick was hardly blameless for this. He was, in fact, one of the key contributors to MU's slide.
He went on to be a very good coach elsewhere, but he was not one at MU.

Goose

Lloyd  

I was curious on why Sultan thought that related to Rick and his time at MU.

Goose

Pakuni

Agreed. Rick played a large role on the slide. I would argue the timing of his leaving and the new hire played larger role than his coaching success at MU. Directly and indirectly he played a role in decline, no doubt.

Markusquette

Great coach.  Big fan of the Bilikens (2nd fav team).  Nice to see them doing so well this year, and hopefully in the Big East soon!

willie warrior

Rick was one of a kind--and never lost one of his Wisconsin roots--he loved to eat.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

reinko

Never really took any chit from his players or his student managers.  But sure could dish it out.

keefe

Quote from: reinko on February 18, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
Never really took any chit from his players or his student managers.  But sure could dish it out.

Or pinch it out


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GoldenWarrior11

What are the chances of Saint Louis getting a Big East invite?  They fit the conference and institutional profile (private university, big city/media market, strong basketball tradition, big arena, etc.).

I personally think the only hold up is the lack of a clear-cut school for #12 (VCU, Richmond, Dayton, etc.).  If only Gonzaga was in in Cleveland or Michigan or something...   ;D

wardle2wade

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 18, 2014, 03:30:45 PM
What are the chances of Saint Louis getting a Big East invite?  They fit the conference and institutional profile (private university, big city/media market, strong basketball tradition, big arena, etc.).

I personally think the only hold up is the lack of a clear-cut school for #12 (VCU, Richmond, Dayton, etc.).  If only Gonzaga was in in Cleveland or Michigan or something...   ;D


That's what I think as well.  St Louis needs another Catholic/Jesuit brethren to pair up with before the league would expand.  Right now, I don't think one exists.  #ABD

Texas Western

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 18, 2014, 11:49:59 AM
Could somebody explain to me why he seemed to have problems coaching at MU? I mean he clearly was a great coach but he didn't bring us anywhere close to what he did at the other 3 schools.  Note before anybody spazz's out and thinks I'm insulting him... I respect him I'm just curious. 
He did a good job, it was his first head coaching position  and he was still very much following the legend of Al. He was very well regarded and left to be an assistant for the Bucks who were an NBA powerhouse at the time. I was very disappointed when he left. My sense is if the would have stayed at Marquette, he would have produced similar results to what he posted at the other schools in his career.

Aughnanure

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Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 18, 2014, 03:30:45 PM
What are the chances of Saint Louis getting a Big East invite?  They fit the conference and institutional profile (private university, big city/media market, strong basketball tradition, big arena, etc.).

I personally think the only hold up is the lack of a clear-cut school for #12 (VCU, Richmond, Dayton, etc.).  If only Gonzaga was in in Cleveland or Michigan or something...   ;D


99.9999999999%. Almost no way Big East expands w/out adding SLU. Like a Notre Dame returns and UConn ditches football program kind of chance to not be invited.

I actually don't know why we wouldn't just go to 11 with SLU and wait. Big Ten made it work for what, a decade or more?
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

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