Marquette not listed in ESPN's 'Bubble Watch' as of 2/14/14

[mattyv1908]

It's only the second installment of the season so far, but as of yet MU is not listed as BE teams currently on the bubble.  If you're familiar with the blog you'll see the conference locks logos posted as well as a small write up of the teams with work to do.

Villanova and Creighton are locks at this point.

Xavier, Georgetown, Providence and St. John's are in the work to do category.

No mention of Marquette.

I certainly think Marquette can control their own destiny with a big stretch run these last 7 games, but I think we're a tad further out (10-15 spots) from making the tournament if the season ended today then some folks around here think.

Obviously wins on Saturday and Wednesday would change the landscape dramatically.

[PGsHeroes32]

It's done by a guy who doesn't even do bracketology stuff.

Hes a fool. He had Indiana on it earlier this week while no MU or St. Johns. Now we both beat SHU and St. Johns gets on.

[keefe]

Why should Marquette be on that list? As of today we have done nothing to warrant serious consideration.

[Golden Avalanche]

Why should Marquette be on that list? As of today we have done nothing to warrant serious consideration.

This.

I'm consistently amazed that fans in this forum ignore the fact that Marquette has done nothing of consequence this season.

[willie warrior]

Why should Marquette be on that list? As of today we have done nothing to warrant serious consideration.

Keefe: You have not been reading the posters here. We are a solidb ubble team (along with about 40-60 others). And if it is heard here, you know it is the Gospel.

[denverMU]

It's done by a guy who doesn't even do bracketology stuff.

Hes a fool. He had Indiana on it earlier this week while no MU or St. Johns. Now we both beat SHU and St. Johns gets on.

Actually, he's not that far off.  CBS Sports has a team vs team comparison tool and when you compare MU to the other current bubble teams (MN, CO, CAL, STANFORD, MZ, SMU, Baylor, etc) MU is not close.  It compares RPI and sos.  That is currently, if we get a string of wins we can improve.

[77ncaachamps]

MU pretty much has to win out the rest of this season including W's over Nova and Creighton.

They favor teams that are on winning streaks going into the Dance.

[mattyv1908]

I agree with most who've posted here in that we're further away from dancing than we'd like to hope.

Are we on the bubble of being a bubble team?

[brandx]

I agree with most who've posted here in that we're further away from dancing than we'd like to hope.

Are we on the bubble of being a bubble team?

pretty realistic outlook

[wojosdojo]

Keefe: You have not been reading the posters here. We are a solidb ubble team (along with about 40-60 others). And if it is heard here, you know it is the Gospel.

How are we a bubble team? We need to go 6-1 and win 1 game in New York AND that will not be easy considering we just won back to back games for the first time in 14 games. Also, our best non conference win is GW. Collectively, that's why we do not deserve to be a bubble team.

Of course with all this said, I really, really hope to make the tournament and as a Marquette fan I think they can go on a run. However, ESPN or whoever is not that optimistic.

[Shack]

Our RPI is currently 73, according to his latest report.  He's definitely not projecting the rest of the season for every team but rather giving a current snapshot for teams that are in a certain range of the RPI at this point in time.  IF we continue to win and our RPI climbs to the low 50's or so with 4 games left, we definitely will be in the discussion.  But as of right now I think it's fair not to be mentioned.  

[madtownwarrior]

You don't remember the "No Bad Losses" crowd from earlier in the season?    The same folks that hang their hat on that George Washington is a quality win...  at least they stopped saying Southern was a good win...

This.

I'm consistently amazed that fans in this forum ignore the fact that Marquette has done nothing of consequence this season.

[Hards Alumni]

We are on the outside looking in.  There is still a shot, but there is this to look at on our resume:

0-5 vs top 25
1-3 vs top 25-50
2-1 vs 51-100

RPI of 73.

That should not be the resume of a tournament bound team.

[Jay Bee]

We're fine.

Let's dance.

[Boozemon Barro]

This is not a tournament team. That was obvious before conference play started.

[silverback]

Also, note that ESPN is in no hurry to grant bids or respect to the Big East. They barely recognize that the conference exits.

[BM1090]

Also, note that ESPN is in no hurry to grant bids or respect to the Big East. They barely recognize that the conference exits.

Yeah. I'm more inclined to believe the opinions of the mock committee who had us between 5-12th out than Eamon Brennan. And I like Brennan

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yeah. I'm more inclined to believe the opinions of the mock committee who had us between 5-12th out than Eamon Brennan. And I like Brennan

Butbutbut WE SUCK! There will be no bubble talk!!!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yeah. I'm more inclined to believe the opinions of the mock committee who had us between 5-12th out than Eamon Brennan. And I like Brennan

Jerry was part of that mock committee, his 4th straight.  He doesn't even have us in the "work to do category" yet.  Which means we have plenty of work to do.

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Definitely possible, we are supposed to win today per the RPI.  Need to pull it off today.  Win a few more, then the discussions mean something.

[Jay Bee]

Definitely possible, we are supposed to win today per the RPI.  Need to pull it off today.  Win a few more, then the discussions mean something.

You're so confused, Chicos. "We are supposed to win today per the RPI"..... that is complete nonsense. You're making things up that aren't true. You apparently fail to understand what the RPI is and what it isn't.

BTW - if MU wins their next two they are fully in the bubble discussion.

[BCHoopster]

MU right now is a solid NIT team, if and it is a big if MU goes 5-2 finish third in the conference, yes they have a chance.  They have to win today, splitting with X is a big deal.  St. Johns
will be a big deal as well as Providence and GTown, the Creighton game and Villy, lose to them it will not hurt there chances as much.  11-7, they should be in 3rd.

[MU82]

It's done by a guy who doesn't even do bracketology stuff.

Hes a fool. He had Indiana on it earlier this week while no MU or St. Johns. Now we both beat SHU and St. Johns gets on.

Indiana has quality wins. St. John's beat us.

This stuff is fun to talk about but nationally we're not worth talking about if we don't beat X and Creighton. Let's do that and see what the bracketology looks like then.

[willie warrior]

You're so confused, Chicos. "We are supposed to win today per the RPI"..... that is complete nonsense. You're making things up that aren't true. You apparently fail to understand what the RPI is and what it isn't.

BTW - if MU wins their next two they are fully in the bubble discussion.

But wait....according to the loudest on this Board, we are already solidly in the bubble discussion, because somebody posted that Joe Brackets said so. And if it is on this board, it must be so. Getting very confusing. Is MU within the bubble, way outside the bubble, two farts away from the bubble, or just blowin' in the wind? Thanks Bob Dylan, and Peter, Paul and Mary. There must be some Catholic/Biblical connection to MU with that reference. Which means we are in the bubble.

[Lennys Tap]

Right now we're out and deservedly so. Who cares if other teams who are also out are ahead or behind us on some outside looking in bubble list? We're a longshot to go the minimum 5-2 that it will take - one game at a time.

[ChicosBailBonds]

You're so confused, Chicos. "We are supposed to win today per the RPI"..... that is complete nonsense. You're making things up that aren't true. You apparently fail to understand what the RPI is and what it isn't.

BTW - if MU wins their next two they are fully in the bubble discussion.

As I just mentioned in the other thread, I'm going to get Jerry Palm on CS (if I can, I know this time of year is crazy for him) and he will explain it quite nicely to you and everyone else here.

When I say MU is supposed to win per the RPI, I'm using it in the sense of the Sagarin predictor model.  So in that sense you are correct, as the RPI isn't a predictive tool. 

So to clarify, I'm using the current RPI scores, applying the Sagarin predictor method, in which case it states MU should win this game.  Hopefully that appeals to your sensibilities more.

Or, if you wish, we can go to other ratings.  KenPom's data predicts we will win today.  Sagarin data predicts we will win today.  Massey data predicts we will today.  RPI data (using Sagarin predictor method), says we win today.  So on and so forth.