Ripples from Fischer coming to MU

[Lennys Tap]

Few years ago it was talked about here ... I assume it has not changed.

Really? Again, I have NEVER seen or heard either of them as much as mention the other, let alone say they talk daily or are best pals. Don't for a minute believe it.

[ronald dragon]

I'm hoping that Pierce will be forced to get halfway decent minutes next year in non conference games and will have some experience under his belt for conference play. Having a 6 11 guy and 6 10 guy playing at a good level would be really nice.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Assuming Duane Wilson was healthy, who wins a scrimmage right now between the these two teams:

Blue:
Otule
Gardner
J. Wilson
J. Thomas
De. Wilson

Gold:
Fischer
S. Taylor Jr.
Burton
J. Johnson
Du. Wilson

[Markusquette]

Assuming Duane Wilson was healthy, who wins a scrimmage right now between the these two teams:

Blue:
Otule
Gardner
J. Wilson
J. Thomas
De. Wilson

Gold:
Fischer
S. Taylor Jr.
Burton
J. Johnson
Du. Wilson

Too soon to say for sure, but of course the only player who may not end up as good (or much better, of course) as the one he is guarding is Steve.  But he still has plenty of potential left.  I could definitely see the Gold team winning now anyway.

[forgetful]

Assuming Duane Wilson was healthy, who wins a scrimmage right now between the these two teams:

Blue:
Otule
Gardner
J. Wilson
J. Thomas
De. Wilson

Gold:
Fischer
S. Taylor Jr.
Burton
J. Johnson
Du. Wilson

Playing today...is that a serious questions.  Blue wins handily...a year or two from now I'd take Gold

[ATL MU Warrior]

Really? Again, I have NEVER seen or heard either of them as much as mention the other, let alone say they talk daily or are best pals. Don't for a minute believe it.

Why not?  TC did bring Buzz to MU, I'm sure Buzz is very appreciative of that...and has no reason to hold the grudge that most here do.  Doesn't seem too difficult to believe to me.

[willie warrior]

How does that benefit IU?  If they win IU nation gets about as excited as beating say NC State.  If IU loses to us, it's a huge embarrassment for TC.

No upside for IU.

Who cares about IU. And I guess the position is that there is no benefit for any team to play MU. Crean still recruits in Wisc., so there could be a benefit there. MU is in the Midwest along with Indiana so there would be interest there.

[Tugg Speedman]

Who cares about IU. And I guess the position is that there is no benefit for any team to play MU. Crean still recruits in Wisc., so there could be a benefit there. MU is in the Midwest along with Indiana so there would be interest there.

He already plays UW and Northwestern.

[WarriorFan]

Assuming Duane Wilson was healthy, who wins a scrimmage right now between the these two teams:

Blue:
Otule
Gardner
J. Wilson
J. Thomas
De. Wilson

Gold:
Fischer
S. Taylor Jr.
Burton
J. Johnson
Du. Wilson

Assuming Duane and S. Taylor Jr. were both healthy, Blue would win.  The only person on Gold to even score would be Burton, the rest would just get shut down.

[tower912]

For people who saw Fischer play in high school, how good is he?   What is his ceiling?   I have read that he is fundamentally sound, shoots well out to 15 ft, runs the floor well, finishes well around the basket with either hand.    What are his weaknesses?   I know that he hurt his shoulder during preseason workouts at IU.  Was that the reason his early season numbers weren't spectacular?

[Dawson Rental]

So, does this complete the trade.   MU traded Crean to IU for a player to be named later and this is the player?   MU came out ahead.   

There were also cash considerations.  Valley Fields gave up 100k in this deal.

[Dawson Rental]

Not sure about MU coming out ahead. Wade/Crean took us to a final 4. Now if Fischer can do the same, then we are ahead.

Of course, we did.  Wade is ANOTHER GUARD!  WE NEED FOUR STAR+ BIGS!!!!!

[Lennys Tap]

Why not?  TC did bring Buzz to MU, I'm sure Buzz is very appreciative of that...and has no reason to hold the grudge that most here do.  Doesn't seem too difficult to believe to me.

I'm sure Buzz is appreciative but what does that have to do with being best friends who talk daily? They are very different people.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm sure Buzz is appreciative but what does that have to do with being best friends who talk daily? They are very different people.

I know this is nitpicky, but do you actually know these guys personally? 

Buzz is certainly more likable than TC, but that doesn't mean they can't be close friends.

[tower912]

I watched Luke's AAU videos.   Good hands, nice touch, finishes with either hand, nice help defender,  needs to get stronger, doesn't finish strong through contact.   The first two are vital, the second come with age, experience, body filling out.   A couple of months wrestling with Otule and Gardner while working with Todd Smith can potentially work wonders with this kid.   A really great foundation has been set.   If he is able to build on it, he could be the most complete MU big since......uhhhhhhhh.......damn.    I understand the IU faithful comparing him to Zeller.   

[MUfan12]

Footwork looked really good as well. Good base for them to build on.

[Golden Avalanche]

I know this is nitpicky, but do you actually know these guys personally? 

Buzz is certainly more likable than TC, but that doesn't mean they can't be close friends.

Crean is very close to Calipari, who has a radically different personality and outlook on the game, so I'd agree it's not far-fetched that Buzz and Crean remain in contact.

[muarmy81]

I watched Luke's AAU videos.   Good hands, nice touch, finishes with either hand, nice help defender,  needs to get stronger, doesn't finish strong through contact.   The first two are vital, the second come with age, experience, body filling out.   A couple of months wrestling with Otule and Gardner while working with Todd Smith can potentially work wonders with this kid.   A really great foundation has been set.   If he is able to build on it, he could be the most complete MU big since......uhhhhhhhh.......damn.    I understand the IU faithful comparing him to Zeller.   

I didnt want to mention this earlier but yes, many of the local Hoosiers I work with had started comparing him to Zeller.
*fingers crossed*

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I didnt want to mention this earlier but yes, many of the local Hoosiers I work with had started comparing him to Zeller.
*fingers crossed*

That is probably more so due to looks.  Luke looks exactly like Zeller in the Indiana uni's. Like spitting image.

[Lennys Tap]

I know this is nitpicky, but do you actually know these guys personally? 

Buzz is certainly more likable than TC, but that doesn't mean they can't be close friends.

Only a little. I don't have any "inside info" on their relationship.

My point is that TAMU and Heisenberg have stated as fact that they are best buds who talk daily. Heisenberg claims that fact was established on Scoop years ago. That was never the case as far as I can recall.

Is it possible that they're BFF's who have each other on speed dial? I guess, but to me it's unlikely and I've certainly never heard it. Less than 2 years ago, Crean said the only guys offering encouragement to him when things were tough at IU were Izzo and his new best buddy John Calipari. When Buzz refers to TC it's "the guys who were here before us" or "coach Crean". Not disrespectful, but not warm.

One other thing. Rest assured that if there was evidence that they are close Chicos and his minions would have shared it with us ad nauseam as "proof" that TC is a good guy. Every time a sportswriter, coach or former player says anything remotely positive about the guy it's published as gospel here.

[Lennys Tap]

That is probably more so due to looks.  Luke looks exactly like Zeller in the Indiana uni's. Like spitting image.

So he'll be MU's very own "Big Handsome" minus  the huge and oft broken proboscis.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Only a little. I don't have any "inside info" on their relationship.

My point is that TAMU and Heisenberg have stated as fact that they are best buds who talk daily. Heisenberg claims that fact was established on Scoop years ago. That was never the case as far as I can recall.

Is it possible that they're BFF's who have each other on speed dial? I guess, but to me it's unlikely and I've certainly never heard it. Less than 2 years ago, Crean said the only guys offering encouragement to him when things were tough at IU were Izzo and his new best buddy John Calipari. When Buzz refers to TC it's "the guys who were here before us" or "coach Crean". Not disrespectful, but not warm.

One other thing. Rest assured that if there was evidence that they are close Chicos and his minions would have shared it with us ad nauseam as "proof" that TC is a good guy. Every time a sportswriter, coach or former player says anything remotely positive about the guy it's published as gospel here.

What good does it do CTC for CTC to mention little old Buzz Williams when he's got much bigger names to drop?  Doesn't mean anything other than CTC being CTC.

[Lennys Tap]

What good does it do CTC for CTC to mention little old Buzz Williams when he's got much bigger names to drop?  Doesn't mean anything other than CTC being CTC.

I agree, Warrior, but it's that very quality of TC's that would make Buzz, at least in private, cringe.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Only a little. I don't have any "inside info" on their relationship.

My point is that TAMU and Heisenberg have stated as fact that they are best buds who talk daily. Heisenberg claims that fact was established on Scoop years ago. That was never the case as far as I can recall.

Is it possible that they're BFF's who have each other on speed dial? I guess, but to me it's unlikely and I've certainly never heard it. Less than 2 years ago, Crean said the only guys offering encouragement to him when things were tough at IU were Izzo and his new best buddy John Calipari. When Buzz refers to TC it's "the guys who were here before us" or "coach Crean". Not disrespectful, but not warm.

One other thing. Rest assured that if there was evidence that they are close Chicos and his minions would have shared it with us ad nauseam as "proof" that TC is a good guy. Every time a sportswriter, coach or former player says anything remotely positive about the guy it's published as gospel here.

That's fair... they may or may not be close. I have no idea.

I'm just responding specifically to the ideas that:

A. The average fan knows who these coaches really are (we all have fun speculating, but we don't really know these guys)

And

B. The implication that people who are very different can't be close friends

[setyoursightsnorth]

It was alsways assumed by a lot of people that Mayo does not like school and would follow Blue overseas. I have no idea, but if Harris is coming than someone is leaving. It will be interesting to see, if Buzz continues recruiting for this class? That would give us a strong indication that someone is transferring. As far as Harris wee have no idea if he is meeting any conditions Buzz might have put on him.

It could be Juan Anderson and it would me happy. I wouldn't find if he transferred out.